RPS twin for blown LS3? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Stay Marine · 08-24-2017, 07:55 AM

I am on the fence and getting mixed feedback for the next clutch and would like to hear what clutches are working well on PD blowers and the immediate torque at my power level. I put the LS9X Katech in when I was 660-725whp, which did fine, but not anymore. I am now 850whp/750tq. A few more minor tweaks may get me to 900whp/800tq, but not beyond that (with this build).

At a previous FBody Gathering, we cruised to see Ron at Vengeance and they swear by the RPS twins up to 900whp--and they do well at the half mile events we go to. The local speed shop agrees RPS twins are bulletproof, but believe MANTIC 9000 twin is more streetable.

Is there an issue with RPS Twin Carbon clutches where they slip during daily driving when the carbon isn't hot?
Can the MANTIC 9000 take the power consistently?
I run 1/4 tracks and the 1/2 tracks with Wanna Go Fast; and drive most days of the week too.
Both work great in the 'Vettes, but how about for our heavier Camaros? Thanks.....

BiggFoot · 08-24-2017, 09:14 AM

I have been using the Centerforce Dyad twin for years now with no issues other than it is a bit noisy at a traffic light so I put it in neutral just because it bugs me. This clutch will definitely take the power.

BTW, thanks for serving! I tip my hat to you!

racesloth · 08-24-2017, 10:19 AM

I would check Monster twins or even triples. I have had zero issue with my lt1 twin and it drives better than the stock LS3/LS7 in my opinion.

dreksnot · 08-24-2017, 10:20 AM

Triple Carbon Slayer will handle the high torque/power of a PD

blake-b · 08-24-2017, 11:25 AM

Triple carbon RPS here. NO complaints and pedal feels stockish. I have not noticed slipping anywhere.

BigMatt · 08-24-2017, 01:42 PM

I have the twin carbon RPS. It's an awesome clutch. I'm not at your power level yet but I'll be there soon.

Stay Marine · 08-25-2017, 08:42 AM

Gents, thanks for the feedback!
Anyone out there have any MANTIC 9000 feedback?

Stay Marine · 08-25-2017, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BiggFoot

I have been using the Centerforce Dyad twin for years now with no issues other than it is a bit noisy at a traffic light so I put it in neutral just because it bugs me. This clutch will definitely take the power.

BTW, thanks for serving! I tip my hat to you!

Thanks brother!

dreksnot · 08-25-2017, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Stay Marine

Gents, thanks for the feedback!
Anyone out there have any MANTIC 9000 feedback?

Chatter and not so good pedal feel is what I've heard. But you know hearing ain't always believing.

hillshooter · 08-25-2017, 10:44 AM

Mcleod RXT in mine. Over 1000HP. they are a good value, work well and are cheap to rebuild.

mrimpala02 · 08-25-2017, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by hillshooter

Mcleod RXT in mine. Over 1000HP. they are a good value, work well and are cheap to rebuild.

Also have a RXT. 800rwhp feels close to stock.

EV1L SS · 08-27-2017, 08:18 AM

I just called monster yesterday and they recommended the triple lts5. They said the street manners and longevity are awesome and it will hold a shit ton of power . No doubt the triple rps is awesome but it is also over 1k more than the monster.... I currently have the slp zl1 twin which was acting up at the track and its a new clutch...I had the McCloud rxt in a c5 Frc making 1007rwhp and held up to highway pulls fine but never dragged the car.

dreksnot · 08-27-2017, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Alpha x detailing

I just called monster yesterday and they recommended the triple lts5.

Ok, I haven't owned my Monster LT1-S Triple for its life cycle. So far, it has NEVER chattered and has held the power. I hesitated recommending it as I've had it for just over a year. I've punished the crap out of it at the strip, but haven't used it in the mile yet. At the strip, I ride it like a rented mule out of the hole and it smells like a roasted clutch. If I released too fast I'd smoke the tires so no side-stepping the clutch - it would be a moderate release. . It's never failed to perform. After a hard day of use at the track, like 18 runs, the pedal feel is different, meaning, I think I've taken some life out of it and the engagement is in a slightly different point. It's like relearning a replaced clutch. However, it will be consistent at that new point until the next abusive track day. Steve says it's self adjusting so that must be it. It's not severe but worthy noting. I've also owned the Triple Carbon Slayer. One hellava race clutch but it did chatter from time to time, was grabby and worse, the rebuild cost kick my ass. Rebuild cost is claimed to be about a quarter for the Monster, we'll see.

EV1L SS · 08-27-2017, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by dreksnot

Ok, I haven't owned my Monster LT1-S Triple for its life cycle. So far, it has NEVER chattered and has held the power. I hesitated recommending it as I've had it for just over a year. I've punished the crap out of it at the strip, but haven't used it in the mile yet. At the strip, I ride it like a rented mule out of the hole and it smells like a roasted clutch. If I released too fast I'd smoke the tires so no side-stepping the clutch - it would be a moderate release. . It's never failed to perform. After a hard day of use at the track, like 18 runs, the pedal feel is different, meaning, I think I've taken some life out of it and the engagement is in a slightly different point. It's like relearning a replaced clutch. However, it will be consistent at that new point until the next abusive track day. Steve says it's self adjusting so that must be it. It's not severe but worthy noting. I've also owned the Triple Carbon Slayer. One hellava race clutch but it did chatter from time to time, was grabby and worse, the rebuild cost kick my ass. Rebuild cost is claimed to be about a quarter for the Monster, we'll see.

So that pretty much sounds like monster is the way to go, especially if it's mostly street driving and hit the track 5-10 times a year 2-4 passes at a time . Correct ?

08-24-2017, 07:55 AM	#1
Stay Marine Still love daily drivin' Drives: Built '10 IBM 2SS; '15 Black Z/28 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Fort Worth TX Posts: 759 View My Garage	RPS twin for blown LS3? I am on the fence and getting mixed feedback for the next clutch and would like to hear what clutches are working well on PD blowers and the immediate torque at my power level. I put the LS9X Katech in when I was 660-725whp, which did fine, but not anymore. I am now 850whp/750tq. A few more minor tweaks may get me to 900whp/800tq, but not beyond that (with this build). At a previous FBody Gathering, we cruised to see Ron at Vengeance and they swear by the RPS twins up to 900whp--and they do well at the half mile events we go to. The local speed shop agrees RPS twins are bulletproof, but believe MANTIC 9000 twin is more streetable. Is there an issue with RPS Twin Carbon clutches where they slip during daily driving when the carbon isn't hot? Can the MANTIC 9000 take the power consistently? I run 1/4 tracks and the 1/2 tracks with Wanna Go Fast; and drive most days of the week too. Both work great in the 'Vettes, but how about for our heavier Camaros? Thanks..... __________________

08-24-2017, 09:14 AM	#2
BiggFoot Drives: 2010 Camaro (M6) 1000+ HP SBE Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 1,391	I have been using the Centerforce Dyad twin for years now with no issues other than it is a bit noisy at a traffic light so I put it in neutral just because it bugs me. This clutch will definitely take the power. BTW, thanks for serving! I tip my hat to you! __________________ F-1X, Cog Drive, ATI Super Pulley/Sprag ~ 19 psi Blower Cam Brodix BP BR 3 Heads Kooks LT Headers and full 3" exhaust Fore Triple Pump Fuel System with ID 1700X Injectors - E85 conversion DSS 9” Conversion (1400 hp axles, driveshaft, pumpkin) & Strange 3.70 gears McLeod RXT Twin HD Clutch & Upgraded Slave RPM Level VII TR6060 BMR Drag Suspension Package w/Strange shocks Carlyle 15" and M/T ET Street R radials 10.1 @ 143 mph 1/4 mile

08-24-2017, 10:19 AM	#3
racesloth Dan Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS IOM Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Georgia, USA not the other one Posts: 1,041	I would check Monster twins or even triples. I have had zero issue with my lt1 twin and it drives better than the stock LS3/LS7 in my opinion. __________________ Dan 2010 IOM SS YSI-B, Pat G Cam, Ported CTS-V Heads, ARH LTs MBRP 3" exhaust http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...&highlight=ysi

08-24-2017, 10:20 AM	#4
dreksnot Served USN - Atomic Chimp Drives: 13 Camaro LSX434 TT M6, 21 ZLE A10 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 1,605 View My Garage	Triple Carbon Slayer will handle the high torque/power of a PD __________________ In excess of 1,000WHP LSX434 \| AGP 65/65 TT \| BTR Equalizer Intake \| Trickflow 245cc cathedral \| BTR custom cam \| Cortex EBC \| n2mb WOT \| ID-1700x \| Brisk GR12S \| RPM Lv 7 TR6060 \| AGP's Triple 525LPH Fore Fuel \| Monster LT1-S Triple \| 4.11 DSS Proform 9", CF driveshaft, 1400hp axles \| Hurst Line Lock \| MGW Retro Short Throw w/old skool Hurst T-handle \| ADM solid subframe mounts \| Prothane Motor Mounts \| Revshift Poly Trans insert \| Moreno camber/caster plates

08-24-2017, 01:42 PM	#6
BigMatt 2010 Camaro 2 SS/RS M6 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS Join Date: May 2009 Location: Clayton Delaware Posts: 1,218 View My Garage	I have the twin carbon RPS. It's an awesome clutch. I'm not at your power level yet but I'll be there soon. __________________ Forged LS3, FED M311 heads, CAI Inc, ARH 1 7/8, Corsa Xtreme, Taylor Wires, MGW Shifter, Street slayer twin carbon clutch, Tick braided clutch line & speed bleeder, ZL1 Diff Swap, BMR Split drop, Sway Bars, Trailing Arms, Toe Rods, Pro bushing kit, Carslyle racing 15in conversion, Whipple, LPE dual fuel pumps, Rx catch can, Id1300x, Alky Control

08-24-2017, 11:25 AM	#5
blake-b Drives: 2009 ZR1 Join Date: May 2010 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,205	Triple carbon RPS here. NO complaints and pedal feels stockish. I have not noticed slipping anywhere.

08-25-2017, 08:42 AM	#7
Stay Marine Still love daily drivin' Drives: Built '10 IBM 2SS; '15 Black Z/28 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Fort Worth TX Posts: 759 View My Garage	Gents, thanks for the feedback! Anyone out there have any MANTIC 9000 feedback? __________________

08-25-2017, 10:44 AM	#10
hillshooter Drives: 2015 Camaro SS commemorative Join Date: May 2015 Location: Utah Posts: 425	Mcleod RXT in mine. Over 1000HP. they are a good value, work well and are cheap to rebuild. __________________ 2015 Camaro SS, LS3 Stroker, PRC heads,CUSTOM CAM. AGP 68/68 with custom Hot and Cold side. Fore triple pumps, Holley terminator X. BMR drag suspension with carlyle brake kit. 15" ET drags and 17" skinnies. ZL1 3.73 gears , aluminum driveshaft. TH400 with circle D converter.

08-27-2017, 08:18 AM	#12
EV1L SS Drives: 2010 ss , cam, magnacharger , etc Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Nj Posts: 94	I just called monster yesterday and they recommended the triple lts5. They said the street manners and longevity are awesome and it will hold a shit ton of power . No doubt the triple rps is awesome but it is also over 1k more than the monster.... I currently have the slp zl1 twin which was acting up at the track and its a new clutch...I had the McCloud rxt in a c5 Frc making 1007rwhp and held up to highway pulls fine but never dragged the car.