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CamaroDreams76 · 01-09-2017, 07:16 AM

I attended my first autocross event yesterday. My car is a DD and I've taken it to the drag strip numerous times and even raced in wannagofast 1/2 mile event. Well AutoX is much more fun.

Anyways I'm curious to hear opinions on what you think the most major flaw in a performance aspect for the 1LE.

What I think is the biggest fail/flaw for this car is the seats. I found myself having to push my left knee into the door to stay in place.....And now my knee hurts it being the next day.

olblue75 · 01-09-2017, 08:02 AM

Do you have the Recaro's seats? I did find these from the Road Course/Auto X Sub Forum.
http://angelwingstech.com/store/

Should help you from moving around.

PostNup · 01-09-2017, 08:04 AM

Pull your seat belt tighter. Same thing happened to me

1LEs biggest flaw, M6... oh wait, after 35 years of shifting and now too old and too much rush hour traffic - that is my flaw HAHA.

Your got one of the best cars GM has ever put out. You could always look into a 5 pt harness.

Enjoy that beast!

ZYBORG · 01-09-2017, 08:22 AM

The only flaw I can think of, would be that the car could have used a slight bump in power.

465 HP out of the factory would have been much better. Bet most people that have traded theirs in, would have kept them, had they had a bit more power.

Not that it is not easy to make that power with minor mods, but would have been nicer having that as the baseline / starting point.

Billy10mm · 01-09-2017, 08:57 AM

The seat situation is fixed with a good 4/5-point harness and frankly, very very few cars out there have excellent stock seats. The minute you start picking up serious speed, seats with stock belts become an issue.

For me, the weight is the biggest issue. A car this heavy chews through pads and tires and boils fluid too easily.

CamaroDreams76 · 01-09-2017, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by olblue75

Do you have the Recaro's seats? I did find these from the Road Course/Auto X Sub Forum.
http://angelwingstech.com/store/

Should help you from moving around.

Recaros were only an option for 14-15. If they were an option for 13 I surely would have them.

The angle wings definitely seem interesting. I've been keeping an eye out for Recaros on the classified section but I want 2SS Recaros seats.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PostNup

Pull your seat belt tighter. Same thing happened to me

1LEs biggest flaw, M6... oh wait, after 35 years of shifting and now too old and too much rush hour traffic - that is my flaw HAHA.

Your got one of the best cars GM has ever put out. You could always look into a 5 pt harness.

Enjoy that beast!

I couldn't get my belt to lock. It would lock up for a second and then release.

I rode along with a driving instructor from Boca Raton that has a nasty S2000CR. He had the fastest run of the day. He helped a lot and gave me a few pointers. Also told me about the belt locking trick but it wouldn't stay locked.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZYBORG

The only flaw I can think of, would be that the car could have used a slight bump in power.

465 HP out of the factory would have been much better. Bet most people that have traded theirs in, would have kept them, had they had a bit more power.

Not that it is not easy to make that power with minor mods, but would have been nicer having that as the baseline / starting point.

Agreed with that.

Superman09 · 01-09-2017, 10:23 AM

Find recaros or another race seat. I could be wrong but I think the recaros are the same regardless of 1ss or 2ss. I have recaros in mine and my first auto-x and track day were done with just the stock belt and I barely slid at all. Now I'm running a 6pt harness. My biggest complaint is the lack of cooling. Oil gets real hot real quick. But I am in the process of fixing that.

Sent from my campfire using smoke signals.

Jayjellyfish212 · 01-09-2017, 10:45 AM

A lot of people say the same thing when they autocross the car..door is killing my knee. I have Recaros and they are too heavy fyi..also wont solve issue..like these guys said you can try a harness. Maybe add some foam where your knee hits door?

It would have been sweet if they came from the factory with coil overs on the 1LE.

CamaroDreams76 · 01-09-2017, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superman09

Find recaros or another race seat. I could be wrong but I think the recaros are the same regardless of 1ss or 2ss. I have recaros in mine and my first auto-x and track day were done with just the stock belt and I barely slid at all. Now I'm running a 6pt harness. My biggest complaint is the lack of cooling. Oil gets real hot real quick. But I am in the process of fixing that.

Sent from my campfire using smoke signals.

Seat wise it's the same but 2SS seats are heated and power.

Yes I use my heated seats in FL.

Superman09 · 01-09-2017, 12:13 PM

My 1ss are power both driver and passenger. But they aren't heated. Heated seats are nice

Sent from my campfire using smoke signals.

Olddudesrule · 01-09-2017, 01:51 PM

Simple, it's weight.........

Joseph1LE · 01-09-2017, 05:33 PM

Bump in power. 460hp would have been nice. Besides that, weight is the obvious flaw. Putting dot 3 brake fluid that boils easy as hell was also a stupid idea.

GONIF · 01-10-2017, 11:45 AM

Heated seats in a car with G2 tires you can't drive when its cold would be a waste . More power is what the 1LE needs.

14Black1LESS · 01-10-2017, 03:52 PM

More power and 6 piston front calipers.

01-09-2017, 07:16 AM	#1
CamaroDreams76 Tri-County Camaro SWFL Drives: 2013 IOM 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: South West FL Posts: 3,079 View My Garage	1LEs major flaw? I attended my first autocross event yesterday. My car is a DD and I've taken it to the drag strip numerous times and even raced in wannagofast 1/2 mile event. Well AutoX is much more fun. Anyways I'm curious to hear opinions on what you think the most major flaw in a performance aspect for the 1LE. What I think is the biggest fail/flaw for this car is the seats. I found myself having to push my left knee into the door to stay in place.....And now my knee hurts it being the next day. __________________ Just bolt ons........ https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=343023

01-09-2017, 08:02 AM	#2
olblue75 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Clarksville Tennesse. Posts: 6,064	Do you have the Recaro's seats? I did find these from the Road Course/Auto X Sub Forum. http://angelwingstech.com/store/ Should help you from moving around. __________________ Orange Krush II 1LE Front sway bar, Splitter, shocks and struts, Z28 dual mode mufflers, Intake, UCA Bushings, and Toresen 3.91 Diff. 1 piece DSS Drive Shaft, ZL1/C7 Calipers, and 32mm JPSS Rear Bar. ASC race spec splitter and wicker. 6th Gen M017 Wheels. Stainless Works 1 7/8 LTs. DSE and PAFDT Suspension components.

01-09-2017, 08:04 AM	#3
PostNup CAR-DASHIAN Drives: 2015 Ashen Gray Metallic 2SS/RS L99 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 540	Pull your seat belt tighter. Same thing happened to me 1LEs biggest flaw, M6... oh wait, after 35 years of shifting and now too old and too much rush hour traffic - that is my flaw HAHA. Your got one of the best cars GM has ever put out. You could always look into a 5 pt harness. Enjoy that beast! __________________ PERFORMANCE: ColdAirInductions CAI, ADM Race Scoop, Cordes Performance Racing Ported TB/IM/Custom VVT Cam, WFO Milled Heads, Stainless Power 1 7/8" LT/3" HFCs, JBA 3" Comp. Cat-Back, Taylor 10.4mm Plug Wires, Tim King Performance Stage 3 6L80, Circle D Billet 3600 Stall, Nic D ECM/TCM Tune, - 458rwhp/413rwtq (prior to PIM), Forgestar F14 (F)18" / (R)17" Rims. SUSPENSION: Z/28 Rear UCA Bushings, Carlyle Racing LCA/TA, BMR Adj. Toe Rods/Xtreme Anti-Roll Bar, Justice Pete Castor Locks/Radius Rod Inserts, Pegasus Billet Rear Cradle Bushings, Mickey Thompson Street SS II 305/45/17 tires.

01-09-2017, 08:22 AM	#4
ZYBORG Lets roll... Drives: 14' Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: TX/S.FL Posts: 1,496	The only flaw I can think of, would be that the car could have used a slight bump in power. 465 HP out of the factory would have been much better. Bet most people that have traded theirs in, would have kept them, had they had a bit more power. Not that it is not easy to make that power with minor mods, but would have been nicer having that as the baseline / starting point. __________________

01-09-2017, 08:57 AM	#5
Billy10mm Drives: 2014 Camaro 2SS 1LE NPP Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Hartsdale, NY Posts: 1,434	The seat situation is fixed with a good 4/5-point harness and frankly, very very few cars out there have excellent stock seats. The minute you start picking up serious speed, seats with stock belts become an issue. For me, the weight is the biggest issue. A car this heavy chews through pads and tires and boils fluid too easily. __________________ My thoughts on some things: Driving Nannies: If I'm that far out of shape on the street, something has gone terribly wrong and by all means Mr. Computer man, come and get me. G2s: Rock throwing is like like a tramp stamp; although problematic, it's a sign of good things to come.

01-09-2017, 10:23 AM	#7
Superman09 Account SNAFU Drives: 13 Tahoe 79 Scout II 15 1LE Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: College Station, TX Posts: 1,356 View My Garage	Find recaros or another race seat. I could be wrong but I think the recaros are the same regardless of 1ss or 2ss. I have recaros in mine and my first auto-x and track day were done with just the stock belt and I barely slid at all. Now I'm running a 6pt harness. My biggest complaint is the lack of cooling. Oil gets real hot real quick. But I am in the process of fixing that. Sent from my campfire using smoke signals.

01-09-2017, 10:45 AM	#8
Jayjellyfish212 Drives: 2014 1LE Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 2,050 View My Garage	A lot of people say the same thing when they autocross the car..door is killing my knee. I have Recaros and they are too heavy fyi..also wont solve issue..like these guys said you can try a harness. Maybe add some foam where your knee hits door? It would have been sweet if they came from the factory with coil overs on the 1LE. __________________ Car mods: never enough!

01-09-2017, 12:13 PM	#10
Superman09 Account SNAFU Drives: 13 Tahoe 79 Scout II 15 1LE Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: College Station, TX Posts: 1,356 View My Garage	My 1ss are power both driver and passenger. But they aren't heated. Heated seats are nice Sent from my campfire using smoke signals.

01-09-2017, 01:51 PM	#11
Olddudesrule Resident nomad Drives: 2014 Summit White 1SS/1LE Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,765	Simple, it's weight......... __________________ Sold: 2007 Z06 2002 Viper GTS/ACR 2003 Z06 1965 FFR Cobra 2012 Nissan 370Z ADM LSA Stage II, Roto-Fab CAI, Kooks LTH/HFC's, Phastek CC, ported TB, Mishimoto radiator and oil cooler, BC Racing ER Series CO's, JPSS 32mm Black Magic rear bar, JPSS front inserts, R1 Concepts Premier slotted rotors/Goodrich SS lines, Schroth ASM harness, MGW flatstick, Brey-Krause HB, Tuned by NicD, at Cordes Performance Racing.

01-09-2017, 05:33 PM	#12
Joseph1LE Drives: 2015 Camaro SS 1LE, 2001 Camaro SS Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Miami Posts: 836	Bump in power. 460hp would have been nice. Besides that, weight is the obvious flaw. Putting dot 3 brake fluid that boils easy as hell was also a stupid idea. __________________ 2017 GMC Canyon All Terrain- daily driver/dirt bike hauler 2015 Camaro SS 1LE- sold 2001 Camaro SS SOM M6- sold 1999 Firebird Formula A4- sold

01-10-2017, 11:45 AM	#13
GONIF Drives: 73 VETTE ,, 05 2500hd diesel,14 1LE Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: The Left lane PHOENIX AZ Posts: 2,626	Heated seats in a car with G2 tires you can't drive when its cold would be a waste . More power is what the 1LE needs. __________________ OLD GUY FLYING FAST AND LOW

01-10-2017, 03:52 PM	#14
14Black1LESS Drives: 2014 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Hurricane Alley Posts: 698	More power and 6 piston front calipers. __________________