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blueforza · 01-17-2009, 11:52 PM

My Dealer said that they don't do the stripes them selves. they order with GM and a GM rep comes out and installs the stripes. He said if I didn't believe them I can be there to watch them put it on

RPO_Z28 · 01-17-2009, 11:55 PM

Aftermarket items are the responsibility of the dealer. The same with the stripes that are improperly installed. GM doesn't get involved in that. They will not pay a claim if the dealer screwed up the install.

I'm not saying that if the stripes when shipped to the dealer, if they are defective, GM won't pony up. I'm simply stating that most dealers do not have sufficient, qualified personnel to install these stripes properly.

Check out the thread about stripe alignment already. Look at all of the complaints that the stripes don't line up at the back of the hood, etc.

No one here has to agree with me. I'm just suggesting that your best bet is to have the factory installed stripes or none at all.

As far as being grumpy, I didn't like being called a troll by another poster, that's all.

RPO_Z28 · 01-17-2009, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Milk 1027

somebody is grumpy today.

Sorry about that. Just didn't like the troll comment.

RPO_Z28 · 01-17-2009, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by blueforza

My Dealer said that they don't do the stripes them selves. they order with GM and a GM rep comes out and installs the stripes. He said if I didn't believe them I can be there to watch them put it on

There is no GM rep that installs stripes. It's either a dealer employee or an outside installer/body shop.

78/Z28 · 01-18-2009, 12:09 AM

I suspect that dealers who have their own body/paint shops will have experienced people who can install the stripes. Dealers who don't have their own shops will send this sort of work to someone who can do the job. I've installed them myself on '77 & '78 Z28s, and it's not that difficult if you follow the directions and take your time.

teamlynn1 · 01-18-2009, 01:11 AM

We had this exact scenario happen we sell Regency trucks and they come with rally stripes in vinyl, some of my customers had problems with chrome wheels peeling as well. Regency was cool about the wheels but balked at handling the stripes, I painted stripes on my customers trucks (3 total) and ate the cost, two of those customer have been back and bought additional vehicles from us and all 3 are still proud to do business with us. Sometimes it hurts to do whats right but in the long run the good karma wheel spins your way is my philosophy. If I carry a product I want to sell it with confidence so my customers can buy it the same way. We trick out lots of GM vehciles with aftermarket wheels and lifts etc these are not coverd under GM's warranty but I warrant the vehicles at my dealership if something goes wrong its only right to di this in my opinion! BTW my guys have templates for the stripes for various vehciles and use a laser lining tool to lay them down. Im not sure what the other guys are doing but we stripe alot of cars and trucks, HHR's etc and dont poof too many up this way. if we do we redo it until the customer is happy!

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Originally Posted by RPO_Z28

If a dealer messes up an installation of the stripes, GM WILL NOT WARRANTY IT! It will drop right back in the dealers lap. I'm sure there are some capable dealers to do these but most will not be able to get it right (or to customer's satisfaction). Ask your GM dealer what happens when a conversion company goes out of business and the stripes they installed go bad. GM washes their hands of it.

CoolestCamaro873 · 01-18-2009, 01:12 AM

The dealer installed stripes shouldn't be a nightmare. I rember when the Mustang came out, Ford had the peopel at the dealers trained by Ford reps on how to put them on. From what I've heard GM is doing the same thing. Dealers also can have trained techs come from outside sources and subthe work out like many Ford dealers do with their Mustangs. I don't really see there being a huge problem. But, I'm sure a few people will get a crappy stripe job.

a6pk2go · 01-18-2009, 01:38 AM

If and when I get mine they will be painted on with a nice clearcoat or two over top of it.

ss09 · 01-18-2009, 01:39 AM

AGREED..

Rogue Leader · 01-18-2009, 01:48 AM

Nothing like throwing a hand grenade or two at the forum

Many dealers have subcontractors install stripes and the like.... In fact if you get tint, an alarm or remote start, even brush guards on your truck, its USUALLY subcontracted out.

I used to work for a Car Audio/Detail shop that worked with a LOT of the local dealers for these specific items.

The point, don't get your panties in a bunch. Very likely the person installing your stripes WILL be competent, and if they are screwed up, its just vinyl tape, it DOES come off and can be fixed or replaced.

Txturbo · 01-18-2009, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by RPO_Z28

The stripes that will be dealer installed will be a NIGHTMARE! There are gonna be bubbles, alignment issues, etc. Customers are going to be too picky (rightfully so) and dealers usually do not employ the proper people to handle these types of stripes. GM will wash their hands of it, dealers will have to order replacement (backorder) stripes, etc. Yeesh!!

You heard it here first. This is gonna be a BIG MESS! Just watch.

You make it sound like dealers have never put stripes on before and once put on they are difficult to fix. Just vinyl decals, its not that hard. If you mess up you just peel them off and try again. I did my own in my driveway without bubbles and they are straight. Its not a big deal.

95droptopZ · 01-18-2009, 07:41 AM

Hi all, I installed stripes for the first time on my Camaro and only had minor bubbles. It's really not that hard. http://www.cardomain.com/ride/382837

Supermans · 01-18-2009, 07:50 AM

Again, I agree with you

z28camaro2471 · 01-18-2009, 07:56 AM

Vinyl stripes have been around since at least the late 1970s. My guess is that factory installed stripes will be applied correctly 99.99999999% of the time and dealer installed stripes will be applied correctly 99.9% of time.

It's not like this is some new product. I don't think anyone should worry about getting stripes...factory or dealer applied.

01-17-2009, 11:55 PM	#16
RPO_Z28 Drives: 2007 C6Z Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: RVC, New York Posts: 1,748	Aftermarket items are the responsibility of the dealer. The same with the stripes that are improperly installed. GM doesn't get involved in that. They will not pay a claim if the dealer screwed up the install. I'm not saying that if the stripes when shipped to the dealer, if they are defective, GM won't pony up. I'm simply stating that most dealers do not have sufficient, qualified personnel to install these stripes properly. Check out the thread about stripe alignment already. Look at all of the complaints that the stripes don't line up at the back of the hood, etc. No one here has to agree with me. I'm just suggesting that your best bet is to have the factory installed stripes or none at all. As far as being grumpy, I didn't like being called a troll by another poster, that's all. __________________

01-18-2009, 01:12 AM	#21
CoolestCamaro873 The Road's A Bad Joke... Drives: '12 Camaro SS Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York Posts: 567	The dealer installed stripes shouldn't be a nightmare. I rember when the Mustang came out, Ford had the peopel at the dealers trained by Ford reps on how to put them on. From what I've heard GM is doing the same thing. Dealers also can have trained techs come from outside sources and subthe work out like many Ford dealers do with their Mustangs. I don't really see there being a huge problem. But, I'm sure a few people will get a crappy stripe job. __________________

01-18-2009, 01:48 AM	#24
Rogue Leader Iatefiberglassinsulation Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS M6 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Long Island Posts: 3,601 View My Garage	Nothing like throwing a hand grenade or two at the forum Many dealers have subcontractors install stripes and the like.... In fact if you get tint, an alarm or remote start, even brush guards on your truck, its USUALLY subcontracted out. I used to work for a Car Audio/Detail shop that worked with a LOT of the local dealers for these specific items. The point, don't get your panties in a bunch. Very likely the person installing your stripes WILL be competent, and if they are screwed up, its just vinyl tape, it DOES come off and can be fixed or replaced. __________________ 2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS - was daily driver, now toy 2020 Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio - Daily Driver 2017 Mercedes Benz GLE 350 - Wifes Car 2008 Chevy Silverado 2500 HD LT 6.0 - Tow Vehicle 1991 Alfa Romeo 164S - Project Car 1994 Volkswagen Golf - Race Car "Like" my race team on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/farfrumwinnin

01-18-2009, 07:50 AM	#27
Supermans Camaro & Stang Enthusiast Drives: 2011 Mustang 5.0 in Kona Blue Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 4,752 View My Garage	Again, I agree with you __________________ Bought my Camaro from Eric Hall(817) 421-7266

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01-17-2009, 11:52 PM	#15
blueforza Member Drives: RJT 2SS/RS Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Long IsLAND, NY Posts: 119	My Dealer said that they don't do the stripes them selves. they order with GM and a GM rep comes out and installs the stripes. He said if I didn't believe them I can be there to watch them put it on

01-18-2009, 12:09 AM	#19
78/Z28 "I git around" Drives: 1978 Z28 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: St. Charles, MO Posts: 12	I suspect that dealers who have their own body/paint shops will have experienced people who can install the stripes. Dealers who don't have their own shops will send this sort of work to someone who can do the job. I've installed them myself on '77 & '78 Z28s, and it's not that difficult if you follow the directions and take your time.

01-18-2009, 01:38 AM	#22
a6pk2go Drives: ... Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: ... Posts: 1,721	If and when I get mine they will be painted on with a nice clearcoat or two over top of it.

01-18-2009, 01:39 AM	#23
ss09 Drives: 65 Nova Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Long Island Ny Posts: 24	AGREED..

01-18-2009, 07:41 AM	#26
95droptopZ Chevrolet across the USA Drives: ABM 2SS/RS 66 SS396 Chevelle Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 115	Hi all, I installed stripes for the first time on my Camaro and only had minor bubbles. It's really not that hard. http://www.cardomain.com/ride/382837

01-18-2009, 07:56 AM	#28
z28camaro2471 C5 Member #227 Drives: Camaros Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NY Posts: 808	Vinyl stripes have been around since at least the late 1970s. My guess is that factory installed stripes will be applied correctly 99.99999999% of the time and dealer installed stripes will be applied correctly 99.9% of time. It's not like this is some new product. I don't think anyone should worry about getting stripes...factory or dealer applied.