Local dealer has 3 Z/28's on the floor...

[oldfriend]

Originally Posted by superstockcam

thanks for the replies, my friend who bought a ZL1 at MSRP + 5k has real buyers remorse... so I'll wait

You can be at a better position if you wait a little longer , then take those 580 Horses from your friends hands

[v8]

I bought my ZL1 for MSRP-1500 so not too bad, but I think once the Gen 6 is out they will start to fall, but not too much until the next ZL1 comes out.

[Special_K]

I just picked up a ZL1 by dealer trade. The local dealer has 3 or 4 Z28s on the lot, and the dealer that had the ZL1 wanted nothing to do with another Z28 (I guess they already had a few). They ended up trading a Yukon for my ZL1.

I think dealers jumped all over the Z28 and are now stuck with them. I bet you could get a good deal. They definitely won't run out anytime soon.

[Jeb114]

My dealer had 2 Z28's and Chevy took them from him they are going to move them around the country to volume dealers, if they don't go then they will hit the wholesale dealer's to get ride of them. There is going to be great deals around June but you will have to look for them!

[Jeb114]

I got this from an end of year stock sales report for a inside GM blog. Interesting reading.


2015 and 2014 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 sales fiasco- a precursor to big discounts on 2015 Corvette C7 Z06?
Without any doubt, the latest Chevrolet Camaro Z28 is a huge sales failure for +General Motors .Kudos to Camaro engineering team for making a valiant effort but in the end, it is still just another Camaro, bought by redneck crowd, attracted to low pricing and peak horsepower and torque numbers than track oriented handling and braking.
No matter what suspension and brake and aerodynamic aides have been applied to the Camaro, it is still the same overweight land yacht and slapping a $75k on a car that comes up short on power when compared to its cheaper ZL1 stable mate had to end up in a big failure.
The outcome is huge discounting of over $20k not just on the 2014 but 2015 model year as well.The funny part here is the fact that in spite of limited production numbers, GM still overestimated the demand, not being able to even sell 1500 of these boats.Is there a lesson here?Of course there is, same one along the lines of another huge sales failure, Generation 5 Dodge Viper.

[ADVANT123]

Although the Z/28 is a performance bargain compared to its competition - I have a feeling a lot of potential buyers are going to have a hard time swallowing paying $75K for a "Camaro". With a base Z06 only a few thousand dollars more than a Z/28, it makes the decision even more difficult.

[Bad@ssCamaro]

Originally Posted by Jeb114

I got this from an end of year stock sales report for a inside GM blog. Interesting reading.


2015 and 2014 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 sales fiasco- a precursor to big discounts on 2015 Corvette C7 Z06?
Without any doubt, the latest Chevrolet Camaro Z28 is a huge sales failure for +General Motors .Kudos to Camaro engineering team for making a valiant effort but in the end, it is still just another Camaro, bought by redneck crowd, attracted to low pricing and peak horsepower and torque numbers than track oriented handling and braking.
No matter what suspension and brake and aerodynamic aides have been applied to the Camaro, it is still the same overweight land yacht and slapping a $75k on a car that comes up short on power when compared to its cheaper ZL1 stable mate had to end up in a big failure.
The outcome is huge discounting of over $20k not just on the 2014 but 2015 model year as well.The funny part here is the fact that in spite of limited production numbers, GM still overestimated the demand, not being able to even sell 1500 of these boats.Is there a lesson here?Of course there is, same one along the lines of another huge sales failure, Generation 5 Dodge Viper.

All kinds of fail from that blog post

[Front Runner]

Originally Posted by Jeb114

I got this from an end of year stock sales report for a inside GM blog. Interesting reading.


2015 and 2014 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 sales fiasco- a precursor to big discounts on 2015 Corvette C7 Z06?
Without any doubt, the latest Chevrolet Camaro Z28 is a huge sales failure for +General Motors .Kudos to Camaro engineering team for making a valiant effort but in the end, it is still just another Camaro, bought by redneck crowd, attracted to low pricing and peak horsepower and torque numbers than track oriented handling and braking.
No matter what suspension and brake and aerodynamic aides have been applied to the Camaro, it is still the same overweight land yacht and slapping a $75k on a car that comes up short on power when compared to its cheaper ZL1 stable mate had to end up in a big failure.
The outcome is huge discounting of over $20k not just on the 2014 but 2015 model year as well.The funny part here is the fact that in spite of limited production numbers, GM still overestimated the demand, not being able to even sell 1500 of these boats.Is there a lesson here?Of course there is, same one along the lines of another huge sales failure, Generation 5 Dodge Viper.

Seems like a bunch of dribble from a Z/28 hater on that blog..... Nothing more. Partial truth sprinkled with a very negative opinion.

IMO, Little credibility there.......

The purpose of posting that here is?

[Zslash28]

Maybe they should have structured the Z like Ford did the with the Boss. I truly believe the 1LE should have been a lower level variation of the Z28, not a resurrected option that most didn't know existed. I've heard enough boohooing about the price and the hp, that it gets drowned out. The masses who relate to the Z28 name, are guys who drove the 78-81 Z28, and the 3rd and 4th gen sticker cars. No real mind blowing track performance stock, but ok street cars. This crowd wanted a Superman car at a Clark Kent price even if the performance matched.

[Jeb114]

Originally Posted by Zslash28

Maybe they should have structured the Z like Ford did the with the Boss. I truly believe the 1LE should have been a lower level variation of the Z28, not a resurrected option that most didn't know existed. I've heard enough boohooing about the price and the hp, that it gets drowned out. The masses who relate to the Z28 name, are guys who drove the 78-81 Z28, and the 3rd and 4th gen sticker cars. No real mind blowing track performance stock, but ok street cars. This crowd wanted a Superman car at a Clark Kent price even if the performance matched.

I agree I think engineers in GM wanted this car, after building it and finding out GM priced it so high the magic disappeared. At the beginning of 2014 GM said they were building 3000 Z\28.s If they did and his numbers are correct selling half will cause a big problem for the 2016 Camaro. You got to remember this article is not from a car mag. its a financial paper and the author is pissed at stock prices and investments not the car.

[90503]

Originally Posted by Jeb114

I agree I think engineers in GM wanted this car, after building it and finding out GM priced it so high the magic disappeared. At the beginning of 2014 GM said they were building 3000 Z\28.s If they did and his numbers are correct selling half will cause a big problem for the 2016 Camaro. You got to remember this article is not from a car mag. its a financial paper and the author is pissed at stock prices and investments not the car.

Then why do you think Ford built the GT350 and GT350R if there is no market or demand for such a car?...Apparently Ford didn't think the Z/28 was a bad idea....just sayin'...

[X25]

If nothing else, Z/28 went long ways to fix the tarnished image created by not just bad, but ill-handling 2010 Camaro. 1LE also did just that, but to a lesser degree. You need these cars to make a statement in the market, and in order to call them performance vehicles, period.

[Lightsaber]

Originally Posted by 90503

I think "demand" will definitely change one way or the other soon...

Once the Gen6 is revealed, there may or may not be a Z/28 model....If there is, it may not be available for a while, if at all for 2016....

If they announce there will not now or in the foreseeable future be a Gen6 Z/28, the ones around now will probably get snatched up quicker....

Either way, it's a guessing game....Even if demand is extremely low, they may not ever again get discounted 20%....who knows...lol...

Good point. If we look at how GM spammed YouTube with Z/28 review videos, they are clearly trying to make Z/28 a halo car for the Camaro, or even the entire Chevrolet brand excluding Corvette.

Right now Z/28 is in fact the leader in performance in its price range, but it's still too new (as the previous gen Z/28's aren't as good) and the hardcore car people of its target audience don't recognize it yet. I've asked many and they either have never heard of the car, or think, without having actually driven one, that it's some track-tyre equipped gimmick that's terrible to drive on the street.

If GM can keep the Z/28 in production, either by keep making this generation, or launching the new generation on Alpha platform (and make it at least as good as this one), then with time this is going to change. Z/28 deserves the same type of hype like 911 (Bill Gates wanted a 959 so bad that he had to change the law to import one), GT-R (it was about Motorex, Godfather, and people would literally kill to get those cars), Evo (fans started the petition to keep the car alive), and Viper (Dan Knott: "Today we’re a car company again"), etc, etc. After several racing seasons, I believe Z/28 will have its own hype as well.

[Lightsaber]

Originally Posted by Jeb114

I agree I think engineers in GM wanted this car, after building it and finding out GM priced it so high the magic disappeared. At the beginning of 2014 GM said they were building 3000 Z\28.s If they did and his numbers are correct selling half will cause a big problem for the 2016 Camaro. You got to remember this article is not from a car mag. its a financial paper and the author is pissed at stock prices and investments not the car.

Exactly this sentiment that destroyed American automakers. We've got too many morons at Wall Street. I mean, if this guy is not a car guy, let him trade something else, like fixed income securities or pokemon cards.

It's the awesome cars that makes companies sell a lot of cars. The market doesn't accept it the day after you launch it, but with time, every consumer learns. If the moron-type at Wall Street force GM back into making junkboxes like the 90s, another bailout will come soon.