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09-05-2012, 01:01 PM | #16 |
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Competition like this is going to keep them all striving to be better than ever...which is great news for us.
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09-05-2012, 02:24 PM | #17 | |
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Are you kidding me? I know I'll upset some but the ZL1 is the Camaro super car... the most powerful factory street-legal Camaro ever... for the price, I think it's an AMAZING deal.
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09-05-2012, 03:47 PM | #18 |
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Actually, I think the New 1LE is going to be the much better deal over the MSRP of the 5th Gen ZL1....Seems like a much more reasonably priced Camaro with some very good performance numbers compared to price.... Folks keep complaining that the ZL1 "isn't a Drag car" but they keep on modding it for the 1/4 mile run and running it at the drag strip and are adding countless amounts of money just to get into the High 11s....It appears the 1LE is a much better bang for your buck...
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09-05-2012, 05:39 PM | #19 |
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Whatever happened to the forum member The Pill. He used to make these monthly threads entertaining. Not necessarily more informed or intelligent. But more fun to read, at least.
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09-05-2012, 05:52 PM | #20 |
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You woulnt happen to have any info on the number of 45th anniversary cars they built and what they were, LTs v6 to SS v8 Thanks
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09-05-2012, 06:31 PM | #21 |
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Competition is at all time high.. Long lives the muscle cars
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09-05-2012, 06:51 PM | #22 |
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He's a troll. you can find him on the svt forum. you actually like that shit?
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09-05-2012, 08:15 PM | #23 |
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Anyone know how the ZL1 & GT500 sales are doing??
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09-05-2012, 09:24 PM | #24 |
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The thread is honestly pointless without him, he needs to come back and post now I mean the past 4 months should give him plenty to talk about.
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09-06-2012, 01:16 AM | #25 | |
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In fact as far as price goes around me you can always get a Challenger for $6,000 off MSRP (though I know this may not be the case everywhere). Though I would say that the issue with the Challenger has less to do with its execution and price and more to do with what it is. Compared to the Camaro and Mustang the Challenger is a large car, the front has more room then the other two. The back seat is actually practical (can seat adults) and has room for 3 in the back making it a 5 seater. The Dodge Challenger is the closest to a muscle car that you can buy today. It is a very large car, and with a $6,000 discount on the R/T Challenger I can buy a brand new R/T for $25,000. This makes it a great deal cheaper then the Camaro SS and a bit cheaper then the Mustang GT (when you take incentives into account). This really brings into question how big of a market is there for a pure muscle car, and while I don't doubt that there is a market for it it is a small one. As far as the 5.7L Hemi goes, in the Challenger it only produces 370BHP while in the Ram trucks it produces 390BHP (and that is with a truck tune). I have no doubt in my mind that Dodge can get the 5.7L Hemi up to 425BHP for the Challenger and mate it to the 8 speed automatic. This will improve both its performance and fuel economy, though I honestly think that while its a better product for its customer base it won't increase its sales. I honestly believe that this is why the Challenger is going away, and is slated to be replaced with a Cuda which will be more in line with the Camaro/Mustang. |
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09-06-2012, 09:41 AM | #26 |
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09-06-2012, 11:14 AM | #27 |
I would love to see when Ford's fleet sales occur since there seems to be a bump in their sales every summer and then they drop down below Camaro again for the rest of the year. I've heard they play around with their reported sales numbers and that it has something to do with fleet sales.
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09-06-2012, 11:56 AM | #28 |
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its nice to see the camaro have strong sales over the others
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