The 2011+ Mustang Thread

[BlackSS831]

Originally Posted by derklug

Realistically, 85% of the Muscle cars shown will be bought by middle aged people who will never race them, don't have the skills to be competetive, and would be scared to death to see what they can really do. 5% will go to kids whose parents should know better, and the last 10% will be the people who know the potential of the cars. The last 10% are the ones that will hit the track, do the mods, and test the platforms to the fullest. Unfortunatly, the automakers have to cater to the 85%, and the 10% have to correct the short-comings. The positive side is that the volume brings down the price, and brings out the individual interpretations of what is the "BEST" Muscle Car.

I couldn't have said it better myself!

[nashstat]

A friend of mine forwarded me the article and said that the "Mustang is faster than the Camaro and is cheaper... "

I told him that it probably is faster since Camaro's have been outselling the Mustang this past year, and they have to come out with something better if they want to sell the Mustang.

I also told him that it is NOT cheaper... Agreed that the starting price is lower, but the Camaro comes stock with 20" Pirelli's and Brembos. The Brembos alone are a $2k upgrade package from Ford... and MT's Mustang costed them $40k+ while the Camaro was $36+...

Yes you can get a Mustang GT cheaper than a Camaro, but the exact base 1SS config on a Mustang GT will cost you more!

[blackZbandit]

Originally Posted by v6sonoma

I love my SS that said clearly the 5.0 is underrated and is putting out far more than the 412hp Ford states. So it will win most comparos due to being lighter and more powerful. In the end the winner will be what style people like more. Clearly the 2010 mustang was well received but lacked the power and the 6th gear the camaro had yet the Camaro out sold it every month since its release both before and after the 5.0 was announced. Also the mustangs of past were never as fast as the camaro yet they outsold it. Now the tables are turned but GM wont let Fords power lead last for long. The Camaro is a great car and the customer knows that and thats why it's the best selling muscle car on sale now.

I read this review last night and thought of the rumored under-rating and I call BS. The Mustang has a better p/w ratio and better gearing so it's expected that it'd perform better in acceleration. If Chevy would finally get around to offering some true performance upgrades (I expect some in the '11MY) like gears and a track-pack like suspension kit designed by somebody like Pedders it'd make for a much more even playing field. The way I see it, base vs base it's a drivers race with the Stang having a very slight advantage, that track pack just provides an even bigger advantage. I have to say Ford was smart to leave the go-fast goodies as options and always put them on the journalists cars, that way regular Joe can read the reviews and think he gets a vastly superior car for less money.

What I really did hate though was them putting the CHally over the Camaro when just a few months ago the Camaro was slapping it around in reviews. It still out performed the SRT-8 but it was down rated on objective criteria like exterior looks... exterior looks they couldn't get enough of 6 months ago, exterior looks that won World Car Design of the year award. Are you kidding me? MT = BS and I'm not just saying that cuz I'm a Camarophile... i call em how i smell em.

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by nashstat

A friend of mine forwarded me the article and said that the "Mustang is faster than the Camaro and is cheaper... "

I told him that it probably is faster since Camaro's have been outselling the Mustang this past year, and they have to come out with something better if they want to sell the Mustang.

I also told him that it is NOT cheaper... Agreed that the starting price is lower, but the Camaro comes stock with 20" Pirelli's and Brembos. The Brembos alone are a $2k upgrade package from Ford... and MT's Mustang costed them $40k+ while the Camaro was $36+...

Yes you can get a Mustang GT cheaper than a Camaro, but the exact base 1SS config on a Mustang GT will cost you more!

The mustangs outsold the camaros exponentially even when the camaros were clearly better performers.

And the M/T car had the $2k glass roof and premium interior.

The prices are pretty comparable optioned out nearly the same.

[srstewart03]

the new thing out is always the most intrigued and will probably win more votes. So yeah totally bias reviews.......then again who cares about a stock muscle car? If you have it your most likely gonna modify because you bought the thing for power. If your interested in competition.....look under their hood, chassis etc. thats what will be the difference when it comes to a muscle car no matter who makes it...... The SS all the way

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by blackZbandit

What I really did hate though was them putting the CHally over the Camaro when just a few months ago the Camaro was slapping it around in reviews. It still out performed the SRT-8 but it was down rated on objective criteria like exterior looks... exterior looks they couldn't get enough of 6 months ago, exterior looks that won World Car Design of the year award. Are you kidding me? MT = BS and I'm not just saying that cuz I'm a Camarophile... i call em how i smell em.

I do agree that the MT article was bullcrap in claiming the SRT8 over the SS because of objective criteria. The SS out performed the SRT8 in every way that was actually measurable.

[Mindz]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

The mustangs outsold the camaros exponentially even when the camaros were clearly better performers.

And the M/T car had the $2k glass roof and premium interior.

The prices are pretty comparable optioned out nearly the same.

According to actual numbers, I'm pretty sure the camaro has outsold the mustang since month 1 that it's been back...Are you speaking of the 4th gens?

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by Mindz

According to actual numbers, I'm pretty sure the camaro has outsold the mustang since month 1 that it's been back...Are you speaking of the 4th gens?

Yes the Camaros have been winning the sales war, and pretty handily, since they came back out.

I was just speaking historically.

[TaylorRyanSS]

The mustang might be ahead now, but the camaro still gets all the attention on the road

[v6sonoma]

Keep in mind the article stated that the last comparo kept price equal for all. This time price was no object and instead of the RT they used the SRT so perhaps thats why they changed there choice on the Challenger. The fact is people love the Camaro and are buying it like crazy. GM will probably react to Ford's HP infusion but I doubt it will do much as long as the Camaro is selling. If they still sell well they probably wont even bother to change it till the 6th gen lands in a few years.

[nashstat]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

The mustangs outsold the camaros exponentially even when the camaros were clearly better performers.

And the M/T car had the $2k glass roof and premium interior.

The prices are pretty comparable optioned out nearly the same.

Base price for a Mustang GT: $30,495
Base price for a Camaro 1SS: $31,795

According to a C&D Video: This comes with 19" wheels and non-brembo brakes. Brembos alone cost $1700 and that too just for the FRONTS.

Not sure what the 20" upgrades will cost... Anyways I would guess that the Mustang would be at least $1k when specked out to what a 1SS Base Camaro has.

My point being when people say that the Mustang is cheaper than the Camaro, that's because it comes with less features!

[whamslam3]

Originally Posted by ToyotaCamaro

Love it.

If people are dumb enough not to do a full investigation themselves, then they deserve what they get.

I'd like to see GM succeed but I would also rather not have the streets flooded with cars just like mine.

I say "Buy a Mustang," I can't go 5 miles without seeing 20 or 30 of them.

will it would make sense cuz the new camaro body style has only just come out. give it a couple more years and im sure it will be just like all the mustangs u c. the new body style mustang has been out since 2005...

[justincase_2008]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

Does GM make the ZL575?

With the help from SLP yes u could have ordered it from a dealer from what i have seen and read.

[1badSS/RS]

Originally Posted by v6sonoma

I love my SS that said clearly the 5.0 is underrated and is putting out far more than the 412hp Ford states. So it will win most comparos due to being lighter and more powerful. In the end the winner will be what style people like more. Clearly the 2010 mustang was well received but lacked the power and the 6th gear the camaro had yet the Camaro out sold it every month since its release both before and after the 5.0 was announced. Also the mustangs of past were never as fast as the camaro yet they outsold it. Now the tables are turned but GM wont let Fords power lead last for long. The Camaro is a great car and the customer knows that and thats why it's the best selling muscle car on sale now.

Well said and true.