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j.curt · 04-08-2016, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Motorboy8769

Sounds like a couple of them hit 5th gear seems like it would hurt more than help unless the re geared the trans. Where 5th isn't over drive

That's a good question. I have to switch into 4th gear about 30 feet before the finish line. I couldn't think of a reason to use 5th unless you are just that fast

Motorboy8769 · 04-08-2016, 12:52 PM

Last year all stock I hit 4th one time and it hurt my time I ran better running 3rd out to the limiter. This year I'll be in 4th with gears and some bolt ons and wheels. I'm putting 4.11 gears I it so I wonder if maybe they are running 4.11 or 4.33 maybe..?

BFASTNOTLAST · 04-08-2016, 05:42 PM

There is a power level and a gear that is going to determine what you cross the line in. If you look at 2NASSTY for instance he is a big power ZL1 that runs 136MPH, that is why he is shifting 5th simply running out of gear.

In a stock LS3 you can finish the 1/4 in 3rd or shift 4th and lose mph... Atleast that's what I did back in 2012.

It's all in the set-up your running, ideally you want to maximize your rpm range to finish at a high RPM in 4th (M6) if you are NA.

There is a science to make speed by having the correct set-up.

Motorboy8769 · 04-08-2016, 06:56 PM

Yea I hear ya on the science! That is why I couldn't decide between 4.11 and 3.91. I would like to stay n/a for a while anyway and maybe some day s/c it or I may just go for a lsx build not sure yet. I'm sure eventually the 4.11 will not be enough gear. I'm thinking a cam and bolt on car maybe heads etc 4.11 will be ok.

BFASTNOTLAST · 04-08-2016, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Motorboy8769

Yea I hear ya on the science! That is why I couldn't decide between 4.11 and 3.91. I would like to stay n/a for a while anyway and maybe some day s/c it or I may just go for a lsx build not sure yet. I'm sure eventually the 4.11 will not be enough gear. I'm thinking a cam and bolt on car maybe heads etc 4.11 will be ok.

Not enough gear from what I have played with so far. For my power level now a 4.30 is just not enough. When I put the heads on and hopefully pick up some mph it will be spot on. I'm crossing the line in 4th at 6700 now.

blufin · 04-09-2016, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by j.curt

I am getting ready to install the same clutch. How do you like it? I was told that the clutch doesn't like to be slipped/feathered off the line. Are you feathering it?

Very happy with the clutch. I featherd it out just like the stock clutch. You can hear it slipping in the video.

swiftkart · 04-09-2016, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BFASTNOTLAST

There is a power level and a gear that is going to determine what you cross the line in. If you look at 2NASSTY for instance he is a big power ZL1 that runs 136MPH, that is why he is shifting 5th simply running out of gear.

In a stock LS3 you can finish the 1/4 in 3rd or shift 4th and lose mph... Atleast that's what I did back in 2012.

It's all in the set-up your running, ideally you want to maximize your rpm range to finish at a high RPM in 4th (M6) if you are NA.

There is a science to make speed by having the correct set-up.

Tire height has a lot to do with it also to keep out of 5th.

SCHUSS · 04-09-2016, 09:37 AM

Twin M6 vert ZL1's, TOO BAD and myself.

BFASTNOTLAST · 04-09-2016, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by swiftkart

Tire height has a lot to do with it also to keep out of 5th.

This is why I cross at 6700 now. Shorter tire with 3.91 = 4.30ish...

BFASTNOTLAST · 04-09-2016, 12:41 PM

Difference in a 88" circumference and an 81"

Bo White · 04-09-2016, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by booneSS13

Awesome pass! What's your best 1/4 time?

I've only been to the 1/4 once.
12.0s with 2.2 60ft. I leave off idle since I'm on 22s lol.

BFASTNOTLAST · 04-09-2016, 12:44 PM

This is why a 3.91 works so well in an auto. Their 4th gear is not 1:1 it's a 1.15 resulting in acting like more gear than us M6 guys. Also look how short 1st gear is.... You wonder why they leave so good.

Motorboy8769 · 04-09-2016, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BFASTNOTLAST

Not enough gear from what I have played with so far. For my power level now a 4.30 is just not enough. When I put the heads on and hopefully pick up some mph it will be spot on. I'm crossing the line in 4th at 6700 now.

If you are crossing at 6700 in 4th that's perfect... I don't think you need any more gear unless you are saying that with heads you will need more gear..? What tires are you running and what is your car bolt ons and cam right now?

BFASTNOTLAST · 04-09-2016, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Motorboy8769

If you are crossing at 6700 in 4th that's perfect... I don't think you need any more gear unless you are saying that with heads you will need more gear..? What tires are you running and what is your car bolt ons and cam right now?

What I'm hoping for is when I put the heads on it will pick up MPH and as a result maybe cross at 6900 or so. The tire I run are pictured above a few posts ago.

SS3 stick, Kooks stepped header + full 2.5 exhaust, RCR intake, R2C CAI, UDP, PTB and a great tune!

Drivetrain mods are a 3.91, solid rear cradle bushings, trailing arms and bushings and toe rods. Everything else is factory for now.

04-08-2016, 05:42 PM	#31
BFASTNOTLAST Drives: 2012 SS LS3 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Denver NC Posts: 1,411 View My Garage	There is a power level and a gear that is going to determine what you cross the line in. If you look at 2NASSTY for instance he is a big power ZL1 that runs 136MPH, that is why he is shifting 5th simply running out of gear. In a stock LS3 you can finish the 1/4 in 3rd or shift 4th and lose mph... Atleast that's what I did back in 2012. It's all in the set-up your running, ideally you want to maximize your rpm range to finish at a high RPM in 4th (M6) if you are NA. There is a science to make speed by having the correct set-up. __________________

04-09-2016, 09:37 AM	#36
SCHUSS 709 RWHP & 677 RWTQ Drives: 13' HPE 800 ZL1..... IOM vert, M6 Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: South Windsor, CT Posts: 1,140	Twin M6 vert ZL1's, TOO BAD and myself. __________________ 11.34 @ 124.88

04-09-2016, 12:41 PM	#38
BFASTNOTLAST Drives: 2012 SS LS3 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Denver NC Posts: 1,411 View My Garage	Difference in a 88" circumference and an 81" Attached Images __________________

04-09-2016, 12:44 PM	#40
BFASTNOTLAST Drives: 2012 SS LS3 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Denver NC Posts: 1,411 View My Garage	This is why a 3.91 works so well in an auto. Their 4th gear is not 1:1 it's a 1.15 resulting in acting like more gear than us M6 guys. Also look how short 1st gear is.... You wonder why they leave so good. Attached Images __________________

04-08-2016, 12:52 PM	#30
Motorboy8769 Drives: 2015 2ss Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Wooster ohio Posts: 586	Last year all stock I hit 4th one time and it hurt my time I ran better running 3rd out to the limiter. This year I'll be in 4th with gears and some bolt ons and wheels. I'm putting 4.11 gears I it so I wonder if maybe they are running 4.11 or 4.33 maybe..?

04-08-2016, 06:56 PM	#32
Motorboy8769 Drives: 2015 2ss Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Wooster ohio Posts: 586	Yea I hear ya on the science! That is why I couldn't decide between 4.11 and 3.91. I would like to stay n/a for a while anyway and maybe some day s/c it or I may just go for a lsx build not sure yet. I'm sure eventually the 4.11 will not be enough gear. I'm thinking a cam and bolt on car maybe heads etc 4.11 will be ok.