Finally got the 1LE track pack installed! My Street/Track review

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by Mikamaro

Installed
Front Springs: Yes
Front Dampers: Yes
Front 27mm Bar & links: Yes
Front Mounts (New Rev): Yes

Rear Upper Mounts: Yes
Rear Dampers: Yes
Rear Springs: No (kept oem Fe3)
Rear 28mm Bar & links: Yes
Rear Sub-frame bushings: NO
Rear Toe Links: Yes
Rear Lower Control Arms: No

275/40/20s all round on Oem 9in rims: Yes

I gather a hole was drilled to mount the 1LE droplinks for the rear sway bar in your FE3 RLCAs?

[tramtwo]

Originally Posted by Mikamaro

Time to post my best lap at my local track: ICAR
I spend almost every second tuesday afternoon there lapping.

So managed a 1:50.6 with the 1LE track pack, that's 3.3sec off my best time with the Stock 2010 SS Suspension.




Also pulled the highest peak lateral G: -1.57
Peak Brake G: -1.25
Peak Accel G: 1.05

Next year lightweight Rims and 305/19 rubbers, like the Z/28.

[Mikamaro]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

I gather a hole was drilled to mount the 1LE droplinks for the rear sway bar in your FE3 RLCAs?

I would assume so, otherwise how could he have install it...??
I will have to verify that with my mechanic.

[Mikamaro]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

I gather a hole was drilled to mount the 1LE droplinks for the rear sway bar in your FE3 RLCAs?

Yes. Confirmed

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by Mikamaro

I would assume so, otherwise how could he have install it...??
I will have to verify that with my mechanic.

The ZL1 / 1LE RLCA has a reinforcement (large 'washer') welded around the hole to prevent flexing in the arm. It may be wise to do the same to your RLCAs. Flex at the attachment points would create a changing load from the bar resulting in uneven action.

[Mikamaro]

Originally Posted by JusticePete;70824Fl2

*Flex at the attachment points would create a changing load from the bar resulting in uneven action.

Yes. Exactly! It's very minimal but on the track I feel it and makes it lightly unpredictable.
Okay. So I will get the Fe4/5 LCA and replace them.
I will report back.
Anything else?

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by Mikamaro

Yes. Exactly! It's very minimal but on the track I feel it and makes it lightly unpredictable.
Okay. So I will get the Fe4/5 LCA and replace them.
I will report back.
Anything else?

Sub-Frame bushings, Z style arms and tweak your alignment to put an end to snap oversteer.

Front Camber: -1.66
Front Toe Total: -0.2
Rear Camber: -0.78
Rear Toe Total IN 0.20

I do have a preference for our sub-frame bushings. Total Control Area in our EP1201 bushings is multiples greater than OEM FE3 / 4 / 5 / 6.

[tramtwo]

Pete are you saying that the subframe bushings are different on the 1LE than a stock FE6 SS?

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[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by tramtwo

Pete are you saying that the subframe bushings are different on the 1LE than a stock FE6 SS?

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Unless the sub-frame bushes are green like those in the picture below the answer is yes.

[Purpleanga]

I've got the stock suspension on my 13 camaro v6. I want to make it feel a bit tighter in handling and corners. Should I got for this track pack or just install a simple strut bar on the front axel? Also does this kit lower the car at all?

[Scott@Bjorn3D]

When I got my kit we made sure we got the one with the subframe bushings. Makes a world of difference, but also upped the install price since dropping the entire cradle.

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by Purpleanga

I've got the stock suspension on my 13 camaro v6. I want to make it feel a bit tighter in handling and corners. Should I got for this track pack or just install a simple strut bar on the front axel? Also does this kit lower the car at all?

1LE Kit Advantages

1. Better damping / valving / Struts
2. Rear Sub-frame bushes
3. Rear Toe Links
4. Rear upper mounts

Plus / Minus

The 1LE sway bars are designed for a square wheel and tire setup. The SS delivers with a staggered wheel and tire setup. Match the sway bars to your tires and wheels. If you have staggered buy the factory ZL1 bars. If you have 1LE / Z/28 square setup buy the ZL1 bars. That is not a typo. The 27mm front 1LE bar understeers more than the 25mm front bar ZL1 setup.

[gajagfan]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

1LE Kit Advantages

1. Better damping / valving / Struts
2. Rear Sub-frame bushes
3. Rear Toe Links
4. Rear upper mounts

Plus / Minus

The 1LE sway bars are designed for a square wheel and tire setup. The SS delivers with a staggered wheel and tire setup. Match the sway bars to your tires and wheels. If you have staggered buy the factory ZL1 bars. If you have 1LE / Z/28 square setup buy the ZL1 bars. That is not a typo. The 27mm front 1LE bar understeers more than the 25mm front bar ZL1 setup.

Reading this, are yo saying that if you have a 1LE, yo can further reduce the understeer by changing the stock 1LE front sway to the smaller 25 mm sway? also, can you explain to me why that would be the case. I am new to the whole suspension deal.

[Dropspeed]

Originally Posted by gajagfan

Reading this, are yo saying that if you have a 1LE, yo can further reduce the understeer by changing the stock 1LE front sway to the smaller 25 mm sway? also, can you explain to me why that would be the case. I am new to the whole suspension deal.

It is a black art!

Reducing the size of the front sway bar would increase front grip....BUT with the stock rate front springs couldn't the cause-effect be the inside rear wheel would "lift" decreaseing traction on corner exist when trying to apply power?

HMMM got me thinking here!

-Matt