Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
Bigwormgraphix
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > General Camaro Forums > Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-27-2018, 11:48 AM   #1
SS-E-YA
 
SS-E-YA's Avatar
 
Drives: 2015 Camaro Z28, 1974 Turbo Nova
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Kansas
Posts: 400
Z28 vs ZL1

I'm on the fence about which one would be the better choice. Currently I have a 2016 Challenger Scat Pack with the 6.4L Hemi. Looking to sell my car, or trade it on a Camaro.

I've spotted a 2015' ZL1 and a 2015' Z28 and a 2014' ZL1... links below

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used...ting=204373613

https://www.truecar.com/used-cars-fo...vrolet-camaro/

https://www.truecar.com/used-cars-fo...?zipcode=64152


Now obviously the ZL1 has more power. But overall what is the better car? For me it will just be a toy and get around 1k miles per year. So want something that will hold some value with low miles.

I like the looks of the Z28 better, but I like the supercharger.
What are some of the better upgrades to do to each?

School MEEEEE
__________________
2015 Chevy Camaro Z28 505HP (CURRENT)
1974 Chevy Nova Small Block Forged 350, Turbocharged 600 HP (CURRENT)
2016 Dodge Challenger R/T Scat Pack 485 HP (SOLD)
2014 Ram 1500 Sport (SOLD)
2010 Camaro 2SS/RS (SOLD)
2000 Camaro Z28 Turbocharged 700HP (SOLD)
2005 Dodge Ram SRT10 530HP (SOLD)
2004 Pontiac GTO 425HP (SOLD)
2006 Trailblazer SS 550HP (SOLD)
SS-E-YA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2018, 12:10 PM   #2
JB'sZL1
 
Drives: 2013 ZL1 and 2019 Ram Laramie
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Milwaukee
Posts: 749
The Z28 is a great track car. Over the Z it is a rough ride, stripped interior, no ac, etc. If that's your cup of tea..go for it. The Z can cheaply handle another 100-200hp if you go that route.
JB'sZL1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2018, 12:17 PM   #3
jonesaustin71.aj
 
jonesaustin71.aj's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 Black 2SS 6A
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Mansfield, Texas
Posts: 37
Might depend on the use. If you plan on some track time, you might get more use out of what the Z/28 has to offer. On the other hand if you want to romp around town you might have more fun with the extra Zl1 power and comfort.

While I don't own either, the Z/28 would catch my attention over a ZL1 anyday.

Also, links arent working for me.

2011 2SS A6
jonesaustin71.aj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2018, 12:24 PM   #4
SS-E-YA
 
SS-E-YA's Avatar
 
Drives: 2015 Camaro Z28, 1974 Turbo Nova
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Kansas
Posts: 400
Quote:
Originally Posted by JB'sZL1 View Post
The Z28 is a great track car. Over the Z it is a rough ride, stripped interior, no ac, etc. If that's your cup of tea..go for it. The Z can cheaply handle another 100-200hp if you go that route.
What all is missing interior wise on a Z28? I've seen some have the A/C option, is this correct?

So the ZL1 rides better then the Z28? Is this just because the Z28 is meant to be a track car?

So for the ZL1, what are the easiest mods to get more power?
Same for the Z28?

As far as the cars I have found, what do you think about them as far as price for the miles they have on them?
__________________
2015 Chevy Camaro Z28 505HP (CURRENT)
1974 Chevy Nova Small Block Forged 350, Turbocharged 600 HP (CURRENT)
2016 Dodge Challenger R/T Scat Pack 485 HP (SOLD)
2014 Ram 1500 Sport (SOLD)
2010 Camaro 2SS/RS (SOLD)
2000 Camaro Z28 Turbocharged 700HP (SOLD)
2005 Dodge Ram SRT10 530HP (SOLD)
2004 Pontiac GTO 425HP (SOLD)
2006 Trailblazer SS 550HP (SOLD)
SS-E-YA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2018, 12:29 PM   #5
Onispliter
 
Onispliter's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 M6
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Indio, CA
Posts: 26
If you want a car to only drive every now and that will hold its value, it seems that your best choice is the Z28. The ZL1 is more of a daily driver car, but since you won't be doing that you don't have to worry about the rough ride nor the missing commodities a ZL1 has. Also they are a lot more rare than the ZL1 and thus hold their value much better, ZL1s are rare but the Z28s are unicorns.
Onispliter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2018, 12:33 PM   #6
JB'sZL1
 
Drives: 2013 ZL1 and 2019 Ram Laramie
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Milwaukee
Posts: 749
Quote:
Originally Posted by SS-E-YA View Post
What all is missing interior wise on a Z28? I've seen some have the A/C option, is this correct? Options on the Z28.

So the ZL1 rides better then the Z28? Is this just because the Z28 is meant to be a track car? Yes. Z28 will kill the Z on a track...vice versa for the road.

So for the ZL1, what are the easiest mods to get more power? E85...then headers and cam.
Same for the Z28? Yes, but lesser gains cuz no sc.

As far as the cars I have found, what do you think about them as far as price for the miles they have on them? That's about fmv$35k-$40k.
The real question is are you going to track the car much, or dd it.
JB'sZL1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2018, 12:39 PM   #7
SS-E-YA
 
SS-E-YA's Avatar
 
Drives: 2015 Camaro Z28, 1974 Turbo Nova
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Kansas
Posts: 400
I will drive it to work on occasion, which is like 6 blocks lol. I'll cruise it around most of the time.

Maybe race 3-4 times a year at local events. Not actual track, just airport runway for local car shows.
__________________
2015 Chevy Camaro Z28 505HP (CURRENT)
1974 Chevy Nova Small Block Forged 350, Turbocharged 600 HP (CURRENT)
2016 Dodge Challenger R/T Scat Pack 485 HP (SOLD)
2014 Ram 1500 Sport (SOLD)
2010 Camaro 2SS/RS (SOLD)
2000 Camaro Z28 Turbocharged 700HP (SOLD)
2005 Dodge Ram SRT10 530HP (SOLD)
2004 Pontiac GTO 425HP (SOLD)
2006 Trailblazer SS 550HP (SOLD)
SS-E-YA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2018, 12:53 PM   #8
SS-E-YA
 
SS-E-YA's Avatar
 
Drives: 2015 Camaro Z28, 1974 Turbo Nova
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Kansas
Posts: 400
How much faster is the ZR1 say in 1/4 mile? Stock for stock.

Which is easier to modify? What upgrades can you do to the supercharger?

I'm assuming HP Tuners is the most popular tuner for these cars?
__________________
2015 Chevy Camaro Z28 505HP (CURRENT)
1974 Chevy Nova Small Block Forged 350, Turbocharged 600 HP (CURRENT)
2016 Dodge Challenger R/T Scat Pack 485 HP (SOLD)
2014 Ram 1500 Sport (SOLD)
2010 Camaro 2SS/RS (SOLD)
2000 Camaro Z28 Turbocharged 700HP (SOLD)
2005 Dodge Ram SRT10 530HP (SOLD)
2004 Pontiac GTO 425HP (SOLD)
2006 Trailblazer SS 550HP (SOLD)
SS-E-YA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2018, 01:08 PM   #9
JB'sZL1
 
Drives: 2013 ZL1 and 2019 Ram Laramie
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Milwaukee
Posts: 749
Lots of questions that can be resolved with a little research.

A ZR1 is a whole different animal. 2.8 0-60 and 10.4 1/4. And can handle tons of g's and still handle. Twice the price too. A DI, even a PI engine is expensive to mod vs. the LSA.
JB'sZL1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2018, 01:23 PM   #10
DRKS1D3


 
DRKS1D3's Avatar
 
Drives: '17 Corvette Grand Sport M7
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 3,185
ZL1- 1.9L Eaton blower mounted on a 6.2L engine, making 580hp
-full of amenities

Z/28- 7.0L making 505hp
-no amenitites
__________________
MY RIDE: 2017 CORVETTE GRAND SPORT--TRIPLE BLACK, 7 SPEED MANUAL, VARARAM TCR-7 INTAKE, BORLA CATLESS X-PIPE, CARBON FIBER STAGE 2 AERO

**SOLD**2011 TRIPLE BLACK SS CONVERTIBLE (BOUGHT NEW 4-2011)--6 SPEED MANUAL, MANY MODS, 455 RWHP/435 RWTQ


DAD'S RIDE: 2012 ZL1 #1866 (BOUGHT NEW 6-2012)--BLACK, 6 SPEED, EXPOSED CF HOOD, POLISHED WHEELS, SUNROOF, ROTO-FAB INTAKE

"Silly Americans, taking from the rich and giving to the poor only works in fairy tales. Success is earned here!".
DRKS1D3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2018, 01:48 PM   #11
lbls1


 
lbls1's Avatar
 
Drives: 2002 Camaro SS SOM; 2015 Malibu LTZ
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Queens, NY
Posts: 3,282
You will need to define what's better for you. In reality, both cars have similar qualities, albeit different retails. You will need to choose which one to buy according to your tastes.

The ZL1 is an excellent all around Camaro that will do most things well. It also happens to be an excellent handler.

The Z28 is an excellent track car that focuses on track performance. It will have exceptional handling (stock), but at the expense of everyday comfort features.

Good luck.
__________________
'02 CAMARO SS SOM; 5.7L LS1/FLS6B
'08 TBSS AWD Black Granite Metallic
'15 Malibu LTZ 2LZ Turbo

'14 CAMARO ZL1 Blue Ray Metallic
lbls1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2018, 03:05 PM   #12
SS-E-YA
 
SS-E-YA's Avatar
 
Drives: 2015 Camaro Z28, 1974 Turbo Nova
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Kansas
Posts: 400
I called and priced insurance on both today.

Currently I pay $237.71 for the challenger
Z28 $306.23
ZL1 $277.25

Does this seem reasonable? I'm 32 years old. No accidents or tickets on my record.
Or should I be searching for a new insurance company?
__________________
2015 Chevy Camaro Z28 505HP (CURRENT)
1974 Chevy Nova Small Block Forged 350, Turbocharged 600 HP (CURRENT)
2016 Dodge Challenger R/T Scat Pack 485 HP (SOLD)
2014 Ram 1500 Sport (SOLD)
2010 Camaro 2SS/RS (SOLD)
2000 Camaro Z28 Turbocharged 700HP (SOLD)
2005 Dodge Ram SRT10 530HP (SOLD)
2004 Pontiac GTO 425HP (SOLD)
2006 Trailblazer SS 550HP (SOLD)
SS-E-YA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2018, 03:10 PM   #13
DRKS1D3


 
DRKS1D3's Avatar
 
Drives: '17 Corvette Grand Sport M7
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 3,185
Quote:
Originally Posted by SS-E-YA View Post
I called and priced insurance on both today.

Currently I pay $237.71 for the challenger
Z28 $306.23
ZL1 $277.25

Does this seem reasonable? I'm 32 years old. No accidents or tickets on my record.
Or should I be searching for a new insurance company?
Per month? Good Lord!
__________________
MY RIDE: 2017 CORVETTE GRAND SPORT--TRIPLE BLACK, 7 SPEED MANUAL, VARARAM TCR-7 INTAKE, BORLA CATLESS X-PIPE, CARBON FIBER STAGE 2 AERO

**SOLD**2011 TRIPLE BLACK SS CONVERTIBLE (BOUGHT NEW 4-2011)--6 SPEED MANUAL, MANY MODS, 455 RWHP/435 RWTQ


DAD'S RIDE: 2012 ZL1 #1866 (BOUGHT NEW 6-2012)--BLACK, 6 SPEED, EXPOSED CF HOOD, POLISHED WHEELS, SUNROOF, ROTO-FAB INTAKE

"Silly Americans, taking from the rich and giving to the poor only works in fairy tales. Success is earned here!".
DRKS1D3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2018, 03:25 PM   #14
ZMEnow

 
Drives: ZL1, 2013, tri-coat-red, manual
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Michigan
Posts: 984
Quote:
Originally Posted by SS-E-YA View Post
I called and priced insurance on both today.

Currently I pay $237.71 for the challenger
Z28 $306.23
ZL1 $277.25

Does this seem reasonable? I'm 32 years old. No accidents or tickets on my record.
Or should I be searching for a new insurance company?

Assuming that's a month? Thats over twice as much as much as a typical State Farm/ AAA/ Allstate rate, even on your Challenger. I would call into Grundy or Hagerty. My quotes were $1150. from Grundy and 1340 from Hagerty. No mileage limit on either and replacement value of 50K with and extra 10k on all my OEM parts which are stored.


Two different cars totally, the ZL1 is a quick blast seat in the pants because of the SC, the Z28 is a LS7 high reving motor suited for road courses, as many have mentioned it is a non adjustable strut so it is very hard on the street. I personally would take the Zl1 over the Z28 as you can change the rear knuckles and upgrade the front bushings with Billets and with the xtra HP I stay way in front of every 28 I have run across on the track and I ride home in comfort. Zl1Le that's a different story.. Good Luck with your decision..
ZMEnow is online now   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:27 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.