The domino effect - New C8 Corvette

[Dethsupp0rt]

Originally Posted by Alain

I wonder how Ford is going to make out with the new GT500 being so pricey as a starting point now that this thing has hit the streets at such a reasonable price point.

They don't have to do anything. There are plenty of ignorant people who have no idea, nor care to learn, what a mid-engine configuration means, so they'll see "495 HP" and scoff. 760 vs. 495 is an easy choice for those people.

[unavailablezl1]

Originally Posted by karmatourer

They sell every one they make and there is a waiting list for some models if that is what you're referring to. I agree it is a bargain though.

No, I meant that the supercars of the world sees they finally have a competitor for cheap from America and will be beating them on the tracks.

[SSport16]

Originally Posted by Joshinator99

If you could name one example of that being true, you’ll be ahead of me. I can’t think of one instance where that is true.

My 2016 SS was built the 3rd day of production, one of the first 6th gens off the line. Took delivery in December 2015, only real issue so far has been the A8 issues, but those issues continue with the A8 in all GM products even in 2019...so at least mibe has been rock solid, 1st year and one of 1st built!

[Alain]

Originally Posted by Dethsupp0rt

They don't have to do anything. There are plenty of ignorant people who have no idea, nor care to learn, what a mid-engine configuration means, so they'll see "495 HP" and scoff. 760 vs. 495 is an easy choice for those people.

That is a great point.

[drfeelgood]

Originally Posted by karmatourer

They sell every one they make and there is a waiting list for some models if that is what you're referring to. I agree it is a bargain though.

I don't think any of us would argue that the Italian Supercars are going to lose customers to the C8... and if they do, not many. There are so many small luxuries in those vehicles , GM would never come close. BUt damn this is a bargauin, and the C8 Z06 looks to be a bargain also.

I think I for one want to buy the C8, and throw a whipple on the LT2. That should give me everything I need.

[BradfordCamaro]

Originally Posted by Joshinator99

If you could name one example of that being true, you’ll be ahead of me. I can’t think of one instance where that is true.

2016 CAMARO SS

[h422694]

Originally Posted by karmatourer

Hold that thought. I received this e-mail 2 days ago from the dealer I purchased from 2x this past year:
Hello,

We have 2 New Corvette ZR1 arriving today that will be Stock Inventory!!

We are getting a Shadow Gray Coupe 3ZR Manual and a Elkhart Blue Coupe 1ZR Manual. They will be online as early as tomorrow with a price of $7,500 over MSRP.

7,500 Over??? Do some online research and you can find them at sticker or below..

[PYROLYSIS]

Originally Posted by unavailablezl1

No, I meant that the supercars of the world sees they finally have a competitor for cheap from America and will be beating them on the tracks.

They'll just run and hide and not go to the ring like Ford did. Ford quit making the Boss when the 5th gen 1LE came out but people with crazy money will always buy Ferraris and such just because they can.

[SlowShelby]

Originally Posted by unavailablezl1

I have been on the Mustang6g site today and a lot of them are cancelling their GT500 orders, True Dat straight up!!

This made the GT500 6 years old before any are made. All they did is put a supercharger on the 5.2, it is still just a Mustang 6Gen.

I like the C8, but you are getting a little ahead of yourself. The only effect it has on the gt500 is so may dealers are marking up the cars so much, and the "golden ticket" allocation for the track pack makes buying one really expensive (for now) with the limited production. While the 0-60 claim is nice, the C8 still has a power to weight of 7.1. The ZL1is lugging around 6lbs per hp, which means it will be much faster. The gt500 is lower yet at 5.5 (all based on crank hp). It seems as if the c8 should trap in the mid to high 120's. The gt500 will be in the mid to upper 130's. It will also be the best handling "pony car". Some of us need a back seat still. It is going to stomp a C8, and a ZL1. It will also be "special" because it is limited.

Don't take me as a GM hater. I actually really like the C8, more than other models, and my next car will likely be between a hellcat redeye or an auto ZLE. However, that is a monetary thing. You buy those at invoice, and I have been quoted 50k over sticker for the GT500.


Not to mention, as we are all enthusiasts who mod cars. a bolt om gt500 will be close to 800whp, as the blower and fuel system, are much more conducive to mods.

[unavailablezl1]

Originally Posted by SlowShelby

I like the C8, but you are getting a little ahead of yourself. The only effect it has on the gt500 is so may dealers are marking up the cars so much, and the "golden ticket" allocation for the track pack makes buying one really expensive (for now) with the limited production. While the 0-60 claim is nice, the C8 still has a power to weight of 7.1. The ZL1is lugging around 6lbs per hp, which means it will be much faster. The gt500 is lower yet at 5.5 (all based on crank hp). It seems as if the c8 should trap in the mid to high 120's. The gt500 will be in the mid to upper 130's. It will also be the best handling "pony car". Some of us need a back seat still. It is going to stomp a C8, and a ZL1. It will also be "special" because it is limited.

Don't take me as a GM hater. I actually really like the C8, more than other models, and my next car will likely be between a hellcat redeye or an auto ZLE. However, that is a monetary thing. You buy those at invoice, and I have been quoted 50k over sticker for the GT500.


Not to mention, as we are all enthusiasts who mod cars. a bolt om gt500 will be close to 800whp, as the blower and fuel system, are much more conducive to mods.

I was on the Mustang6 site and read where people have cancelled their "order" or place in line.

[unavailablezl1]

Originally Posted by SlowShelby

I like the C8, but you are getting a little ahead of yourself. The only effect it has on the gt500 is so may dealers are marking up the cars so much, and the "golden ticket" allocation for the track pack makes buying one really expensive (for now) with the limited production. While the 0-60 claim is nice, the C8 still has a power to weight of 7.1. The ZL1is lugging around 6lbs per hp, which means it will be much faster. The gt500 is lower yet at 5.5 (all based on crank hp). It seems as if the c8 should trap in the mid to high 120's. The gt500 will be in the mid to upper 130's. It will also be the best handling "pony car". Some of us need a back seat still. It is going to stomp a C8, and a ZL1. It will also be "special" because it is limited.

Don't take me as a GM hater. I actually really like the C8, more than other models, and my next car will likely be between a hellcat redeye or an auto ZLE. However, that is a monetary thing. You buy those at invoice, and I have been quoted 50k over sticker for the GT500.


Not to mention, as we are all enthusiasts who mod cars. a bolt om gt500 will be close to 800whp, as the blower and fuel system, are much more conducive to mods.

I was on the Mustang6 site and read where people have cancelled their "order" or place in line.

I can't make you hate anything, that is up to you. But the GT500 will not stomp the C8, where does it say that. I know both manufacturers have 0-60 times and the C8 is faster. So how can a slower car beat a faster car?

[BradfordCamaro]

Silly to compare a C8 with a suspension/brake package to the Top car Ford has to offer.


Let GM release their Top Corvette then see where rubber goes.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by Dethsupp0rt

They don't have to do anything. There are plenty of ignorant people who have no idea, nor care to learn, what a mid-engine configuration means, so they'll see "495 HP" and scoff. 760 vs. 495 is an easy choice for those people.

This ^ I am sure the C8 is going to steal quite a few sales in its first year and I totally understand why. There are still plenty of people with enough money that will still buy GT500s, RedEye Challengers, ZLE Camaros bc they either have more HP, more seats and some people just aren't Corvette people.

Originally Posted by unavailablezl1

I was on the Mustang6 site and read where people have cancelled their "order" or place in line.

I can't make you hate anything, that is up to you. But the GT500 will not stomp the C8, where does it say that. I know both manufacturers have 0-60 times and the C8 is faster. So how can a slower car beat a faster car?

I think the GT500 will be faster in the 1/4 than the C8. the C8 might get to 60 faster but I think the GT500s extra HP will pull it ahead.

Road course probably a different story

[Baldilocks01SS]

Originally Posted by shaffe

This ^ I am sure the C8 is going to steal quite a few sales in its first year and I totally understand why. There are still plenty of people with enough money that will still buy GT500s, RedEye Challengers, ZLE Camaros bc they either have more HP, more seats and some people just aren't Corvette people.



I think the GT500 will be faster in the 1/4 than the C8. the C8 might get to 60 faster but I think the GT500s extra HP will pull it ahead.

Road course probably a different story

By the 60MPH mark, the Mustang will be 0.6 seconds behind the Corvette. It will be interesting to see.