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Old 08-09-2020, 03:05 PM   #29
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Excellent point about them being lost at that time... hadn't occurred to me, but as you mentioned... there was so little "talk" about the car on a wide scale... you had to almost seek out info and stories. Also, most "European" sports car fans just simple looked away when any of the press talked about the Z/28. The bias was already in the tank. It's what makes it so much fun to track it now... the great upside is that folks just assume you are much better driver than you are to get that big crappy American machine around so fast.

The favorite questions I always get:

- What modifications have you done?

- How much horsepower does this have?

- What brakes did you upgrade to?
Reflecting back it's easy to see why the brass signed off on the Z. They had a few thousand LS7's that were going in to nothing,and it was getting late in the generation to not have a Z like every other preceeding one. They let the lads in engineering have at it, which really hadn't happened since the Vince Piggens/COPO days. Timing had everything to do with it's epic failure,no way the flagship Vette gets second billing to a Camaro no matter how bad ass. Still very early in the game with these. IMO this Z will go down as one of if not the most significant performance car GM ever built for a number of reasons. Kudos to the AL O and his team for building an uncompromised analog track beast. i'm sure they did a lot of soul searching for the last few years but the worm is turning and in ten years they will be looked back in the same light as their predecessors form the late sixties.
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Old 08-25-2020, 10:37 AM   #30
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I track pricing monthly (note, this is just asking price, no way for me to track actual sale price)

Prices have gone up about 10k since Jan.
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FYI pricing by mileage as it stands today.
You guys are like rocket scientist. Let's just hope it continues going up. That was the plan Sam!
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Old 08-25-2020, 01:19 PM   #31
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'15 Black, 10k miles, $39k Bay Area
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Old 08-25-2020, 01:53 PM   #32
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I think this is the one with moderate damage reported on the front, right and rear side of the car.
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Old 08-25-2020, 01:54 PM   #33
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Hey, one owner though!!!
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Old 08-25-2020, 04:44 PM   #34
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the percentage of Z/28's for sale with damage reported is astounding.
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Old 08-26-2020, 08:44 AM   #35
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the percentage of Z/28's for sale with damage reported is astounding.
Is that unusual for a car made to track? Glad they are being used as intended.
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Old 08-26-2020, 10:38 AM   #36
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I have been a Camaro guy since before I could drive! I bought my first Camaro in 1974 after high school. It was an Indy Pace Car. I sold it because my best friend to this day bought a Z/28 and it was a beast! I found my 69 Z/28 in 1978, and it still sits in my garage. About 10 years ago, the faulty synapses in my brain that make me think that I’m rich, started telling me that I should have one of every generation Z/28. I already had my first gen, and my hugger Orange fourth gen. I bought a project 2nd gen to restore (still working on it, long story!). Then in 2016 I found my 2015, with 97 miles on it in Virginia. I traded my CTS-V wagon and cash for it. It’s nice to see that they are starting to take off, but I’m not selling so not super important.
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Old 08-28-2020, 08:59 AM   #37
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Do no A/C, single speaker cars trend higher in price?
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Old 08-28-2020, 10:11 AM   #38
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Do no A/C, single speaker cars trend higher in price?
Originally they trended lower,but with only 116 out of 1801 being C42(Non AC) that might change going fwd if they continue to increase in valuation.. especially on the low production colors( AGM/SIM). Just my opinion.
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Old 08-28-2020, 10:38 AM   #39
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Originally they trended lower,but with only 116 out of 1801 being C42(Non AC) that might change going fwd if they continue to increase in valuation.. especially on the low production colors( AGM/SIM). Just my opinion.
if i had to bet, my guess would be very low mileage no A/C cars would demand a higher price...but if it has 15-30k miles on it (or damage), might trade lower than similar cars w/ A/C. Prob also very regional.
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Old 08-28-2020, 12:45 PM   #40
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Originally they trended lower,but with only 116 out of 1801 being C42(Non AC) that might change going fwd if they continue to increase in valuation.. especially on the low production colors( AGM/SIM). Just my opinion.
Would have been cool if GM would have added ‘delete’ panels for the radio like you see in some of the BMW M3 Lightweight and CSL. Correct me if I’m wrong but the only visual difference with the no AC cars is the absence of the snowflake icon.

https://drivetribe.com/p/the-e36-m3-...S3mAyI2y_89wEg

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...m3-csl-review/
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Old 08-28-2020, 02:45 PM   #41
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Would have been cool if GM would have added ‘delete’ panels for the radio like you see in some of the BMW M3 Lightweight and CSL. Correct me if I’m wrong but the only visual difference with the no AC cars is the absence of the snowflake icon.

https://drivetribe.com/p/the-e36-m3-...S3mAyI2y_89wEg

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...m3-csl-review/
Thats correct; a snowflake, and AC components if looking under the hood obviously. Afaik the radio was used for the door chime, which they were required to have to make it street legal. Seems like they could've figured out another way, but thats why they kept the radio and single speaker...
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Old 08-28-2020, 08:15 PM   #42
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I think it’ll be a long time before values noticeably differ from AC to no AC. These aren’t ‘those’ types of collector cars yet. In the 60’s and 70’s era muscle cars, options typically don’t effect the value more than 10% if that. I would think right now, no AC would hurt value.
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