2022 CT5V 668hp/659tq

Stephen12ZL1 · 02-01-2021, 08:16 PM

So, will this supercharged variant be available in a 2022 Camaro and optional carbon ceramic brakes?

Stephen12ZL1 · 02-01-2021, 08:20 PM

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/2...fficial-debut/

LT4Greg · 02-01-2021, 08:44 PM

Maybe the engine will make it to the ZL1!

Mountain · 02-01-2021, 09:27 PM

Well, it's an LT4. Sounds like they "cleaned up" some things inside the engine and retuned it. I see no reason GM wouldn't copy this into the Camaro ZL1, given the current 6th Gen may stay around a bit longer.

EDIT: Some excerpts from various articles on the new LT4:

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Originally Posted by Autoblog

But thanks to intake and exhaust improvements, output is up to 668 horsepower and 659 pound-feet of torque, as opposed to the CTS-V's 640 horses and 630 pound-feet. The engine also is handbuilt in Bowling Green, Ky., just like the short-lived turbocharged DOHC Blackwing V8.

I forget, but aren't the Z/06 and ZL1 LT4's hand-built in BG, too?

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Originally Posted by Road&Track

The CT5-V Blackwing gets GM's LT4 6.2-liter supercharged V-8, updated with a new 1.7-liter Eaton supercharger, titanium intake valves, and a new intake system. All that finessing adds up to 668 hp and 659 lb-ft of torque, increases of 28 and 29, respectively, over the old CTS-V.

+18hp/+9lb-ft over the ZL1

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Originally Posted by AutoWeek

No, instead Cadillac stuffed a supercharged 6.2-liter V8 derived from the LT4 that powered the CTS-V. While Cadillac could have just stuffed the older LT4 V8 into the new car and made people happy, the company instead opted to revise the LT4 to help it make more power. Engineers fit a new supercharger, throttle body and exhaust system and revised the tuning to help this pushrod V8 make 668 hp and 659 lb-ft of torque.

LT5 TB?

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Originally Posted by MotorTrend

he Blackwing's big, forced-inducted V-8's extra power—28 additional horses and 29 more lb-ft of torque compared to the LT4 in the third generation CTS-V, the car the CT5-V Blackwing mostly replaces—comes primarily from a combination of a new 1.7-liter Eaton supercharger, 46 percent more airflow into the intake plenums, new throttle bodies, and a new exhaust system. There's also a revised oil pan and oiling strategy that Cadillac developed after a 24-hour continuous track test in the automatic CT5-V Blackwing, and a half as long 12-hour continuous test of the manual version.

I wonder how it compares to the Camaro version, because the wet-sump for the LT1 and LT4 in the Camaro had similar work.

The carbon-ceramic brakes aren't a big surprise: there were one or two ZL1 mules spotted, back in something like 2018 or 2019, that had carbon-ceramic brakes on them. The Z/28 carbon-ceramic rotors will swap into the 6th Gen Camaro hats...

Schlok · 02-02-2021, 12:55 AM

Yeah, curious if GM will let this trickle down. It has been beat to death but the LT5 would be what we all want! Glad to see the CCM brakes are optional. That will keep the price more reasonable.

Ademarco · 02-02-2021, 01:37 AM

I might have to upgrade after someone takes the depreciation hit. I am glad they offer a manual in this high end beast!

Schlok · 02-02-2021, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Ademarco

I might have to upgrade after someone takes the depreciation hit. I am glad they offer a manual in this high end beast!

Same! That's probably the right move, someone will drop 100k plus and you can scoop a deal.

Z OH 6 · 02-02-2021, 05:35 AM

I think its a safe bet that it will find its way into the Camaro ZL1. Considering this is a 6.2L and uses a 1.7L blower, it sure sounds like a slightly massaged ZL1. That being said, the HP figures are a little disappointing, with Dodge now turning out a 797HP Redeye Charger for the nearly the same price, the Caddy's power is nice but still going to fall short of what Dodge is offering for a sedan.

Z OH 6 · 02-02-2021, 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schlok

Yeah, curious if GM will let this trickle down. It has been beat to death but the LT5 would be what we all want! Glad to see the CCM brakes are optional. That will keep the price more reasonable.

Agreed, this is the engine that needs to be in the Caddy and the ZL1 to compare to Dodge's offerings.

Realist · 02-02-2021, 07:37 AM

Looks great. Crazy how $100000 seems to be the new norm.

Ademarco · 02-02-2021, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Realist

Looks great. Crazy how $100000 seems to be the new norm.

HP wars cost money. Like they say, fast, cheap, reliable, pick any two.

Mountain · 02-02-2021, 11:02 AM

The DOHC TT 4.2L LTA is a sad sight to see disappear. Such a cool engine.

Vigilante375 · 02-02-2021, 12:23 PM

The CT4 and CT5 come standard with a 6 speed manual..... that's awesome.

I would rather have a CT4 but that's my preference.

Alain · 02-02-2021, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Realist

Looks great. Crazy how $100000 seems to be the new norm.

I thought i was the only one who felt this way. I can't believe how expensive these things are getting !!!!

02-01-2021, 08:16 PM	#1
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02-01-2021, 08:20 PM	#2
Stephen12ZL1 Drives: '21 ZLE A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Mechanicsville, VA Posts: 6,808	https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/2...fficial-debut/ Attached Images __________________ '21 ZLE A10 Wild Cherry PDR 2:00.78 VIR Full 10.68@131.69 1.68 60' '17 ZL1 A10 Mosaic Black PDR/Nav 2:03.08 VIR Full 11.003@129.2 1.75 (sold) '15 Z/28 #325 Black a/c & stereo. 2:10.1 VIR Full (sold) '12 ZL1 A6 Black 10.52@131 1.55 60' 2:13 VIR Full (sold)

02-01-2021, 08:44 PM	#3
LT4Greg Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 Coupe Join Date: May 2016 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,813	Maybe the engine will make it to the ZL1! __________________ ZL1 Coupe, PDR, Exposed carbon fiber hood insert, My Link with Nav, M6 6 speed and Silver Ice Metallic. Mods done: ceramic window tint, GM Accessories Camaro floor mats and Roto-Fab CAI.

02-02-2021, 12:55 AM	#5
Schlok Drives: 2015 Z/28 #397 2022 ZL1 #1799 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: DC Posts: 521	Yeah, curious if GM will let this trickle down. It has been beat to death but the LT5 would be what we all want! Glad to see the CCM brakes are optional. That will keep the price more reasonable.

02-02-2021, 01:37 AM	#6
Ademarco Drives: 18 Ford Raptor, 21 2SS 1LE M6 Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: SoCal Posts: 127	I might have to upgrade after someone takes the depreciation hit. I am glad they offer a manual in this high end beast!

02-02-2021, 05:35 AM	#8
Z OH 6 Drives: 2021 Red Hot ZL1 Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Gapplebees Posts: 3,092	I think its a safe bet that it will find its way into the Camaro ZL1. Considering this is a 6.2L and uses a 1.7L blower, it sure sounds like a slightly massaged ZL1. That being said, the HP figures are a little disappointing, with Dodge now turning out a 797HP Redeye Charger for the nearly the same price, the Caddy's power is nice but still going to fall short of what Dodge is offering for a sedan.

02-02-2021, 07:37 AM	#10
Realist Drives: No Camaro :( Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Chitown Burbs Posts: 1,136	Looks great. Crazy how $100000 seems to be the new norm.

02-02-2021, 11:02 AM	#12
Mountain Drives: 2017 SS 1LE, 2016 1SS (previous) Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Metro-Detroit Posts: 1,863	The DOHC TT 4.2L LTA is a sad sight to see disappear. Such a cool engine.

02-02-2021, 12:23 PM	#13
Vigilante375 Drives: 2018 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,370	The CT4 and CT5 come standard with a 6 speed manual..... that's awesome. I would rather have a CT4 but that's my preference.

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