06-26-2019, 03:08 PM | #15 | |
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Ask all those people moved out of the Camaro Teams how their Tin Foil Hats fit.. This has nothing to do with looks, performance, etc. The Next Gen buyer doesnt want to own a car, they are hubing in larger Cities, and Lift, Uber, soon Waymo are the way they see the future, and Mary sees it the same way.. |
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06-26-2019, 07:59 PM | #16 |
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Lethal garage has a new YouTube video on this. Gm is just putting the 7th gen on hold as of now. The 6th gen is schedule thru 2023 model year. So they have plenty of time to get the 7th gen going.
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06-27-2019, 11:54 AM | #17 | |
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Im a chevy guy my whole life, but right now if I had to buy a 2019 Camaro or challenger, it would be a Challenger no question....
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06-27-2019, 12:23 PM | #18 |
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That's tanamount to killing it,they are just putting it to sleep softly. GM is going electric in a big way, lot's of pressure from the gub mint and clearly the interest is not there sales wise( and of that 51k units how many were rental fleet orders?) It's over, enjoy the amazing one's that are currently being built. JMO
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06-27-2019, 01:24 PM | #19 | |
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That, combined with liking the looks of the 5th gen zl1 better, plus a 20k cost difference- it was a no brainer to get a 5th gen. I do like the dash and general interior look better in the 6th gen, but the 5th gen is still cool, too. If I wasn't a Chevy guy, that hellcat would have gotten my money.
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06-27-2019, 07:01 PM | #20 |
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gotta give them credit.dodge has kept the challenger going with NO next gen.10 years with only a interior and grill/tail light change and dodge keeps selling the charger's.i'm not a dodge gut but they seem to be on to something.
i actually don't think of a back seat if you are looking for cars with a comfortable back seat and no blind spot then you don't need to be looking at a camaro or any modern muscle car...gm had a bad ass 4 door THE SS but sales were so bad they discontinued it??? the 7th gen camaro is not dead.....as a matter of fact with the mid engine vette coming out i say camaro sales will go up as the vette is priced out of reach. |
06-27-2019, 07:50 PM | #21 |
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I didn't say I needed a comfortable back seat, just a back seat that actually functions as a back seat. 1) take my kids to car shows, etc. 2) take an extra person or two to lunch at work. I don't think it's too much to ask to actually be able to fit a person in the backseat without compromising the average-sized driver's seating position.
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06-27-2019, 09:03 PM | #22 | |
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I routinely take my kids to car shows and the back seat is enough room, there would be no way they would like the rear of the 6th
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06-27-2019, 09:10 PM | #23 | |
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i never liked 4 doors but coupe's are few and far between nowadays. i'm 50 and my friends had coupes from the 60's and 70's g-body's from the 80's all had good rear seating. no camaro i can think of ever had a good back seat.the second gen was the worst. i always thought they just threw them in for cheaper insurance and gm already had the vette so no more room for a 2 seater. nice ZL-1 i'm totally jealous! |
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06-28-2019, 06:29 AM | #24 |
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Has anyone ever Read on a clear day you can see General Motors by John DeLorean
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06-29-2019, 02:34 AM | #25 |
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Stopped long enough to take this pic yesterday. I don't understand the sales numbers, the choice is obvious.
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06-29-2019, 01:40 PM | #26 |
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Chevy had it going with the 5th Gen a true retro to the 69 Camaro.
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07-01-2019, 06:29 AM | #27 | |
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A. Either the guy only has enough money for one vehicle; therefore, he made an imbecilic decision to buy a HC for traveling during those treacherous Michigan winters. B. Or he simply looks at vehicles as a form of transportation and doesn't care about keeping them clean or performing basic maintenance. If the car was filthy (inside and out), I'd hate to see the guy's house.
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07-01-2019, 08:47 AM | #28 |
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I've seen filthy good cars before. Not long ago, I saw (get this) a BRM ZL1 convertible not far from where I worked. I was excited until I got closer to the car: Dings everywhere, dirt on the wheels so thick that it looked like paint, curb rash on every wheel, a really poor grille and lower rocker aftermarket package, filthy paint with dirt that was covering multitudes of scratches on the paint. I thought to myself that even my worst car never sank to that level of neglect. Why have such a good car if you are going to treat it poorly?
Then it dawned on me that people think and act differently. While one (including myself) would never expose their car to the chance of neglect, others will drive their car no matter what happens to it.
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