Camaro V6 auto outruns Mustang V6 auto

[Cmicasa the Great XvX]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Before you insult....check yourself....He was talking about the car vs themselves in manual and auto form. Not vs each other, when he was talking about a full second.

What it boils down to very often is that on the Internet there is an OVERWHELMING need for people to try and feel superior, by going overboard with sarcasm.

U are 100% correct... the post the OP put up was valid... the responder lacked the reading comprehension to decipher his meaning. Ironic considering his "What grade are u in" comment

[Cmicasa the Great XvX]

Originally Posted by motorhead

I guess the OP has a different Chart than the one he posted. I don't see where the camaro is faster than the mustang. They both ran the same time. Plus they used the mustang with the airplane gears in it. Not a fair comparison. I hope the GM guys that complain about Motortrend see this. They tried to get the camaro to win and still couldn't quite do it.

Here ya go... looks like the Camaro is faster...
1) Camaro 2) Challenger 3) Mustang 4) G37 with Aerokit... er Genesis

[ViperTomcat]

Originally Posted by Cmicasa the Great XvX

What it boils down to very often is that on the Internet there is an OVERWHELMING need for people to try and feel superior, by going overboard with sarcasm.

U are 100% correct... the post the OP put up was valid... the responder lacked the reading comprehension to decipher his meaning. Ironic considering his "What grade are u in" comment

Excuse me?

I did not lack the reading comprehension to understand his post. What I was pointing out is that he was making a statement about manually equipped cars while only providing a chart for automatics. Thus providing evidence of one while speaking of another without proof, and thus creating an element of confusion.

Good job on trying to stir the pot on an issue that had died down and was not being discussed anymore.

[lil_chef]

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

LOL how did you come up with that order? That is neither the order in which they performed nor the order the mag placed them in.

thats the order they are in in the chart............

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by Cmicasa the Great XvX

Here ya go... looks like the Camaro is faster...
1) Camaro 2) Challenger 3) Mustang 4) G37 with Aerokit... er Genesis

Shows you what wonders can happen after an engine is broken in!!!

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by lil_chef

thats the order they are in in the chart............

Ah. His absurdly bias past posts blinded me. My bad.

[Lazerbrainz2k3]

So, 305hp Pentastar or not, what magic did Chrysler pull off with the Challenger SE to get it to within a couple tenths of the still lighter Camaro? And will they actually be offering a proper transmission, finally? That alone was enough to take it out of consideration when I was deciding on Mustang vs. Camaro last year.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by Lazerbrainz2k3

So, 305hp Pentastar or not, what magic did Chrysler pull off with the Challenger SE to get it to within a couple tenths of the still lighter Camaro? And will they actually be offering a proper transmission, finally? That alone was enough to take it out of consideration when I was deciding on Mustang vs. Camaro last year.

it was 3 tenths (and Mph) behind and is about 100lbs heavier while rated at a lil less HP. SOunds about right. When they get a better tranny i think itll be maybe a tenth or two behind

[ViperTomcat]

Originally Posted by Lazerbrainz2k3

So, 305hp Pentastar or not, what magic did Chrysler pull off with the Challenger SE to get it to within a couple tenths of the still lighter Camaro? And will they actually be offering a proper transmission, finally? That alone was enough to take it out of consideration when I was deciding on Mustang vs. Camaro last year.

The fact that its only around 250 pounds or so heavier than the V6 Camaro?

The generally accepted rule is 100 pounds= 1 tenth in the 1/4.

Oh and just as a FYI in case there was a confusion, the V6 Challenger is 3800-3900 pounds and change this year vs the 4100+ pounds in the Hemi Challengers.

[Lazerbrainz2k3]

Originally Posted by ViperTomcat

The fact that its only around 250 pounds or so heavier than the V6 Camaro?

The generally accepted rule is 100 pounds= 1 tenth in the 1/4.

Oh and just as a FYI in case there was a confusion, the V6 Challenger is 3800-3900 pounds and change this year vs the 4100+ pounds in the Hemi Challengers.

Not badmouthing your preferred pony, just asking a question.

I thought the new Mustang V6 was "only" about 300 pounds lighter than the Camaro V6 but has a good 1/2 second on the Camaro, so I guess I'm surprised that less power and torque but 150-200 lbs heavier makes less of a difference than less power, equal torque but 300 lbs lighter makes double or more difference with the manual Mustang.

[ViperTomcat]

Originally Posted by Lazerbrainz2k3

Not badmouthing your preferred pony, just asking a question.

I thought the new Mustang V6 was "only" about 300 pounds lighter than the Camaro V6 but has a good 1/2 second on the Camaro, so I guess I'm surprised that less power and torque but 150-200 lbs heavier makes less of a difference than less power, equal torque but 300 lbs lighter makes double or more difference with the manual Mustang.

Oh I didnt think you were

Again, the "100 lbs equals a tenth" is just a rough estimation, truth may be a bit more or a bit less.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by ViperTomcat

Oh I didnt think you were

Again, the "100 lbs equals a tenth" is just a rough estimation, truth may be a bit more or a bit less.

theres always other small factors as well like the efficiency of the tranny to put the power down, gear ratios, aerodynamics and sometimes just the basic "law of diminishing returns". but with that said 250lbs and 6less hp seems to equate to 3tenths and 3mph pretty accurately.

The Mustang is typically faster because theres a bigger difference between 3400lbs vs 3700lbs (%9 difference) than 3700 vs 3900 (%5.4 difference)

[Stew]

Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

it was 3 tenths (and Mph) behind and is about 100lbs heavier while rated at a lil less HP. SOunds about right. When they get a better tranny i think itll be maybe a tenth or two behind

I think the 8 speed will work wonders. judging by the MPH, it must have had a hell of a launch and good 60 ft though. COnsidering it and the Mustang were not broken in also (I know Chryslers have a breakin peiod and usually don't completely loosen up until like 2-5k miles.

[Z/28orSs]

Originally Posted by jdenotter

I hate to say this but your post is the only one I could understand. Some people need to learn how use correct grammar before hitting the reply button.
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