01-11-2023, 09:47 PM | #1 |
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New ZL1 owner .. opinions?
This is My first venture in a 6th gen platform I just purchased a 17 Zl1 so far i love this thing. Bought the car from a dealer. Got an anvil auto carbon fiber notched spoiler ordered not a big fan of the stock 1. The best i can tell this car has kooks headers ,rotofab CAI, lower 9.06 dsx pulley, 103 TB, and the supercharger has been ported ( by who I dont have a clue) and a 195 thermostat I believe if this isn’t stock temps. The car feels pretty strong. I’ll probably get it tuned sooner or later for peace of mind, im sure it has been tuned but its a mystery. Anyway, is there any mods that would be beneficial before i get it tuned?? How much power do you guys think this car is making? I was thinking atleast a mighty mouse catch can system. Want to stay on pump 93 also. Thanks for any input or advice
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01-12-2023, 05:40 AM | #2 |
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One of the first things you need to look into is the oil pump and see if it's already been replaced. If not, that should be at the top of your list.
The 17/18 model years are notorious for having them fail and adding extra performance just to have engine failure is obviously not good.
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01-12-2023, 06:38 AM | #3 |
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Yes, keep one eye on the oil pressure gauge. Now that I'm out of warranty, I'm expecting mine to go any day.
https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=532479
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01-12-2023, 07:13 AM | #4 |
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Even though you already said 93, I'd still advocate E'. You'll probably be 625-650 - maybe more.
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01-12-2023, 09:01 AM | #5 | |
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I would be very nervous not knowing who did the work... but to your question, i would not be adding any more mods, until you get the car tuned and put some miles on it. Learn the cars limits on traction carefully. My guess would be 660rwhp. If after a few thousand miles, you start to crave more, and have cash for better tires, I would pull the motor for a H/C set up and replace the oil pump, DoD, and VVT. Thats a big step financially, but the one that makes the most sense to me with the current mod list. I would really try to tune for E. Do you not have any nearby?
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01-12-2023, 09:32 AM | #6 |
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Yeh that’s the problem im about an hour away from an E-85 pump, the car runs very well, i am very mechanically inclined, i have two older camaros that are LS swapped an I built the engines myself. But that being the LS platform,ive never had my hands on these newer LT engines before. Is there anyway to tell if the oil pump has been changed that a keen eye would see? My plans for the future may be a cam and oil pump swap. I have hp tuners i may compare my tune to a stock tune to see what has been changed if anything. Thank u guys again
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01-12-2023, 01:52 PM | #7 | |
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01-12-2023, 03:07 PM | #8 |
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Yes, that is my advice. He has a 2017 ZL1. It's literally something he should keep an eye on.
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01-12-2023, 03:15 PM | #9 | |
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That sucks... these cars LOVE E85. Im sure you will have fun with this one either way.
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01-12-2023, 03:18 PM | #10 |
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Great work on your 47th post. Not to specifically pick on you but according to the polls on this site the percentage of failure is just a tad over 1% failure rate per production numbers vs failures. Just saying.
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01-12-2023, 04:04 PM | #11 | |
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It could well be that a small fraction of owners are members here and even fewer participated in said poll, so the actual failure percentage could be much higher than 1% of production. We simply don't know because there isn't enough available information. Granted, one would expect much more noise than a related article and video beside the many forum and reddit threads if this were a widespread issue, so it's probably less than 10%, but again, we can't be sure. All that said, I don't think the suggestion to replace the oil pump for peace of mind is unreasonable.
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01-12-2023, 05:11 PM | #12 |
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My 2017 has almost 25,000 miles and no problem as of yet but I’m keeping my fingers crossed. It is stock with a RotoFab only.
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01-12-2023, 07:06 PM | #13 |
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My post count has nothing to do with my advice to a person who literally asked for our opinions.
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03-30-2023, 11:04 AM | #14 |
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Also, even if the oil pump has a high chance of not failing, I would still rather have it replaced with a better one than leave it and risk the entire engine...
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