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Old 11-19-2011, 05:54 PM   #1
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I know this has probably come up before, but every time I see a burnout on a mustang I see some serious wheel hop. Notice this on the Shelby, also notice how smooth the SS looks. Just seems to me that the mustang is going to break something soon. I had a Lightning, and my first mod was ladder bars because it did the same thing. Doesn't feel very good when it happened in the Lightning.
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I've seen a lot of Mustangs perform a burnout without wheel hop.

All cars are going to wheel hop without the proper setup... Part of what looked like wheel hop in the video seemed to be due to the camera frame rate... I don't think a professional or experienced driver is going to keep going like that...

I'll be keeping an eye on this thread.....
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I've seen a lot of Mustangs perform a burnout without wheel hop.

All cars are going to wheel hop without the proper setup... Part of what looked like wheel hop in the video seemed to be due to the camera frame rate... I don't think a professional or experienced driver is going to keep going like that...

I'll be keeping an eye on this thread.....
I would normally agree, but I'm seeing this all the time. Not just this video.
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Is the gt500 the only current answer to the ZL1 that ford has in production?
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I would normally agree, but I'm seeing this all the time. Not just this video.
Might be an agreement between Ford and the aftermarket manufacturers to insure sales... Not really...

I dont know what to say, but it's not an issue I'll loose any sleep over... I might benefit from it... at the race track...

Here's one, I really do not know,

Which axle is more prone to wheel hop... the IRS, or the live axle... and all things considered, which is the easiest to fix... ?

I am not looking for nor will I tolerate any arguments in this thread... If you have legitimate relevant information, please feel free to post it up...
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Is the gt500 the only current answer to the ZL1 that ford has in production?
Yes, but I think that saleen is still making modified mustangs, like Henessee is making modified camaro's
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Might be an agreement between Ford and the aftermarket manufacturers to insure sales... Not really...

I dont know what to say, but it's not an issue I'll loose any sleep over... I might benefit from it... at the race track...

Here's one, I really do not know,

Which axle is more prone to wheel hop... the IRS, or the live axle... and all things considered, which is the easiest to fix... ?

I am not looking for nor will I tolerate any arguments in this thread... If you have legitimate relevant information, please feel free to post it up...
Mustangs rear control arms took me about 45 mins, way easier than our Camaro SS. And yes that was wheel hop and juttering left to right not frame rates you can even see the rear right exhaust tip vibrating. The rear stock control arms are too flimsy to control the power of those cars, it is a well known thing amongst Mustang owners. Boss 302s have the GT 500 arms which still leaves room for improvement, good news for BMR , bad news for Boss 302 rivals. There is still room for improvement with even the 302s stock setup.
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Seems like we're always a step ahead. Wouldnt even matter if the new stang is faster, it's a day late and dollar short, I mean who cares if your always playing catch up anyway.
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Seems like we're always a step ahead. Wouldnt even matter if the new stang is faster, it's a day late and dollar short, I mean who cares if your always playing catch up anyway.
Because they keep catching up to go *just* a little bit ahead, and then the cycle repeats. It's the way the Industry works...entertaining, really, to sit back and watch.

It would seem to me that the Mustang's rear architecture, being such an old design would be easier and cheaper to modify, while the Camaro's more complex rear design would offer more ability to control, expense and simplicity being the trade-off.
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Is the gt500 the only current answer to the ZL1 that ford has in production?
The GT500 is the fastest car offered in Ford's vehicle lineup. GM has the ZL1 and the entire Corvette line.

I always viewed this video as a win for the Camaro. The GT500 was only a 1/10 quicker than the SS, even though it was supercharged and had 120 extra horsepower. Of course, if the cars kept running to 150 MPH, the GT500 would make the SS look real bad.....
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Because they keep catching up to go *just* a little bit ahead, and then the cycle repeats. It's the way the Industry works...entertaining, really, to sit back and watch.

It would seem to me that the Mustang's rear architecture, being such an old design would be easier and cheaper to modify, while the Camaro's more complex rear design would offer more ability to control, expense and simplicity being the trade-off.

How far can it go?
500hp Mustang GT in the near future followed by the 525hp Camaro SS.


I remember when I thought my new stock 275hp, 1994 LT1 Camaro Z28 was powerful and fast. I would take my friends for rides and they would be like, WOW! I used to say it had a monster under the hood (lol - 275hp V8).
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I always viewed this video as a win for the Camaro. The GT500 was only a 1/10 quicker than the SS, even though it was supercharged and had 120 extra horsepower.
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