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TJ91 · 03-05-2016, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by HPerformance

Good Luck man!

Thanks man. Think I might film it with the gopro for other people who may want to do it themselves as well.

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Originally Posted by Black Knight

Good luck to you . Price of labor is a lot from the dealer . I wonder if any has just put a LS3 motor instead of fixing the LLT problem like when their chain went or lost all the oil .

Lol trust me this was the first thought in my head but apparently its impossible because of the wiring. Still dont know why but people have tried and failed. One guy said he put a V8 from an escalada (lq9?) In his camaro but never came back to tell us the details

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Originally Posted by redleader

What do we buy out of this lot then?......

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Originally Posted by TooCool5

No you just buy the complete timing chain kit with all the updated parts/tensioners. They are around $180 online.

12651450 (For 2008-2012
Models)
(2012)
Cadillac SRX LF1 (2010-11), LFX/LFW (2012)
Cadillac STS LLT (2008-11)
Chevrolet Camaro LLT (2010-11), LFX (2012)
Chevrolet Equinox LF1 (2010), LFW (2011-12)
Chevrolet Impala LFX (2012)
Chevrolet Traverse LLT (2009-2012)
GMC Acadia LLT (2009-12)
Saturn OUTLOOK LLT (2009-10)

Thanks for the info. My good buddy is a salesman at a chevy dealer so hoping to get employee price on the parts.
Thanks again!

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Originally Posted by redleader

TooCool5 :-) thx
I'm in the UK, web url link please if you can, Cheers!

Lol building new friendships through these timing chains damn GM "Camaro means comrad or friend" LOL need alot of friends to keep these LLTs going

Black Knight · 03-05-2016, 03:50 PM

Yea seems crazy you can put a LS motor in everything from a Mazda Miata to rat rod but not in a Camaro

TJ91 · 03-06-2016, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Black Knight

Yea seems crazy you can put a LS motor in everything from a Mazda Miata to rat rod but not in a Camaro

Blowa my mind
There must be a way

How are they getting passed the ecu

TooCool5 · 03-06-2016, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by redleader

TooCool5 :-) thx
I'm in the UK, web url link please if you can, Cheers!

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from...51450&_sacat=0

redleader · 03-06-2016, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TooCool5

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from...51450&_sacat=0

TooCool5
Thank you :-)
Apart from Tools & Time is that all we need?

W4rMach1ne · 03-06-2016, 07:23 PM

How many hours does it take to fix it at the dealer rate or a mechanic? I have a 2011 with about 61k. I run full synthetic mobile1 DEXOS change around 3-4k every time.

TJ91 · 03-07-2016, 10:19 PM

from what I gather, some dealers do it pretty quick, its the clean up of the seal that makes it take longer from what I have seen.

W4rMach1ne · 03-13-2016, 07:15 PM

Anyone know the date when they updated the chains?

TJ91 · 03-14-2016, 11:29 AM

believe it was about 6 months into production or may have been for 2011 plus

redleader · 03-14-2016, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by W4rMach1ne

Anyone know the date when they updated the chains?

... and was it simply mechanical
parts?
... or did it require ECU rewrite too?

TooCool5 · 03-14-2016, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by W4rMach1ne

Anyone know the date when they updated the chains?

I remember a post that stated the start of 2011 Production around May or June 2010.

W4rMach1ne · 03-14-2016, 07:46 PM

Mine was built in September 2010. Hopefully it doesn't have these bad timing chains.

LT dannn · 03-19-2016, 03:51 PM

Hi everyone, my name is Dan. This is my first post here. Here's my story regarding General Motors Timing Chain (TC) problem, which they fail to accept responsibility.

My 2010 Camaro LT (all stalk) with 88,200 miles was due for it's first California Smog Emissions Test last month, but do to a Check Engine Light the mechanic would not perform the smog test. However, he read the fault codes and it showed P0008 and P0017. I googled the codes and soon discovered this was not an isolated issue. I called the Chevrolet dealership where I purchased my car brand new. The SA told me they were not aware of any TC issues (BS). I informed him there is a TSB regarding this issue on certain GM models with the 3.6L V6 engine. He tells me if there is a TSB, it's not a recall, but for informational purposes. I said, I understand the difference between a TSB and a Recall.

Long story short, I made an appointment to take car in on a Thursday. Now, you're probably asking why I didn't take it to an independent mechanic. Here's why. I contacted GM and spoke to a customer service agent. I wanted to let them know that my car was at a certified Chevrolet shop. I asked for some type of assistance being that my car's powertrain warranty had expired. And some of you have asked about a 10yr/120,000 warranty? I asked the agent about that, and the answer is there is no warranty for that. However, the link I included below says different. The agent took all my information and said he would contact the dealership on Friday and then call me back. GM never called the dealership nor did they call me. On Monday still no call. Tuesday and a donation of $2,285.00 I picked up my car. And yes, it was a TC problem. Next day passed smog test.

Forward to Wednesday, I call GM and leave a voicemail for the same agent I spoke to. Thursday while at work I get a phone call from GM. I originally told him to call me after 3pm when I'm off because we have strict telephone policy. He calls after 1pm while I'm at work. Go figure! Anyway, he explains that there is nothing GM can do for me. I mentioned the TSB regarding the TC. He told me it's just for informational purposes (Where did I hear that before?). I said, I understand, but if it's just for info purposes then GM is aware of this problem or GM would not be distributing this TSB to all its dealerships. He immediately changed the subject. He asked if the dealership attempted to assist me with any type of discount. I said no. Again, he said there was nothing GM could do to assist me. After work I called the dealership and asked if GM had contacted them. The SA said GM never called. Not very professional on GM's part!

I recently filed a complaint with the BBB. And now awaiting for a response. The link below is a letter from GM to customers of certain 2007-2009 models (not including Camaro at that time) with the same 3.6L V6 engine and the very same TC problem. It is in my opinion that General Motors is aware of this ongoing problem, but refuses to admit fault! Any other assistance from Camaro owners would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/cs...43857-8394.pdf

Also;
NHTSA #10043857
TSB REF #11340

redleader · 03-19-2016, 04:05 PM

... and in the view of 10'000's GM current and prospective buyers.

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03-05-2016, 03:50 PM	#30
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03-07-2016, 10:19 PM	#35
TJ91 :chevy: Drives: 2LT/RS Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 13,033	from what I gather, some dealers do it pretty quick, its the clean up of the seal that makes it take longer from what I have seen. __________________ CAMARO Consult your doctor before taking Camaro Side effects include Sudden increase in Heart Rate, Insomnia and occasional hallucinations If you experience Permagrin exceeding 4 hours after taking Camaro, seek immediate Camaro5 Help CAMARO Bringing excitment back into the Garage

03-14-2016, 11:29 AM	#37
TJ91 :chevy: Drives: 2LT/RS Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 13,033	believe it was about 6 months into production or may have been for 2011 plus __________________ CAMARO Consult your doctor before taking Camaro Side effects include Sudden increase in Heart Rate, Insomnia and occasional hallucinations If you experience Permagrin exceeding 4 hours after taking Camaro, seek immediate Camaro5 Help CAMARO Bringing excitment back into the Garage

03-19-2016, 03:51 PM	#41
LT dannn Drives: 2010 Camaro LT Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Tulare County Posts: 1	Timing Chain Hi everyone, my name is Dan. This is my first post here. Here's my story regarding General Motors Timing Chain (TC) problem, which they fail to accept responsibility. My 2010 Camaro LT (all stalk) with 88,200 miles was due for it's first California Smog Emissions Test last month, but do to a Check Engine Light the mechanic would not perform the smog test. However, he read the fault codes and it showed P0008 and P0017. I googled the codes and soon discovered this was not an isolated issue. I called the Chevrolet dealership where I purchased my car brand new. The SA told me they were not aware of any TC issues (BS). I informed him there is a TSB regarding this issue on certain GM models with the 3.6L V6 engine. He tells me if there is a TSB, it's not a recall, but for informational purposes. I said, I understand the difference between a TSB and a Recall. Long story short, I made an appointment to take car in on a Thursday. Now, you're probably asking why I didn't take it to an independent mechanic. Here's why. I contacted GM and spoke to a customer service agent. I wanted to let them know that my car was at a certified Chevrolet shop. I asked for some type of assistance being that my car's powertrain warranty had expired. And some of you have asked about a 10yr/120,000 warranty? I asked the agent about that, and the answer is there is no warranty for that. However, the link I included below says different. The agent took all my information and said he would contact the dealership on Friday and then call me back. GM never called the dealership nor did they call me. On Monday still no call. Tuesday and a donation of $2,285.00 I picked up my car. And yes, it was a TC problem. Next day passed smog test. Forward to Wednesday, I call GM and leave a voicemail for the same agent I spoke to. Thursday while at work I get a phone call from GM. I originally told him to call me after 3pm when I'm off because we have strict telephone policy. He calls after 1pm while I'm at work. Go figure! Anyway, he explains that there is nothing GM can do for me. I mentioned the TSB regarding the TC. He told me it's just for informational purposes (Where did I hear that before?). I said, I understand, but if it's just for info purposes then GM is aware of this problem or GM would not be distributing this TSB to all its dealerships. He immediately changed the subject. He asked if the dealership attempted to assist me with any type of discount. I said no. Again, he said there was nothing GM could do to assist me. After work I called the dealership and asked if GM had contacted them. The SA said GM never called. Not very professional on GM's part! I recently filed a complaint with the BBB. And now awaiting for a response. The link below is a letter from GM to customers of certain 2007-2009 models (not including Camaro at that time) with the same 3.6L V6 engine and the very same TC problem. It is in my opinion that General Motors is aware of this ongoing problem, but refuses to admit fault! Any other assistance from Camaro owners would be greatly appreciated. Thanks http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/cs...43857-8394.pdf Also; NHTSA #10043857 TSB REF #11340

03-06-2016, 07:23 PM	#34
W4rMach1ne Drives: 2011 Camaro LT1 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Florida, United States Posts: 336 View My Garage	How many hours does it take to fix it at the dealer rate or a mechanic? I have a 2011 with about 61k. I run full synthetic mobile1 DEXOS change around 3-4k every time.

03-13-2016, 07:15 PM	#36
W4rMach1ne Drives: 2011 Camaro LT1 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Florida, United States Posts: 336 View My Garage	Anyone know the date when they updated the chains?

03-14-2016, 07:46 PM	#40
W4rMach1ne Drives: 2011 Camaro LT1 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Florida, United States Posts: 336 View My Garage	Mine was built in September 2010. Hopefully it doesn't have these bad timing chains.

03-19-2016, 04:05 PM	#42
redleader redleader Drives: 2010 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: UK Posts: 2,201 View My Garage	... and in the view of 10'000's GM current and prospective buyers. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk