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Jmgcamaro71 · 03-31-2018, 02:43 AM

How’s it going guys, I just purchased the stage 1 suspension from Hurst, which is lowering springs with upgraded sway bars, my question is do I need upgraded end links or will the stockers suffice? And also what other issues/tips should I look for as this is the first vehicle I’ve ever lowered, and driven. Thanks in advance.

LCPLPunk · 03-31-2018, 06:11 AM

I'm going for a mostly handling build and I'm not worrying about upgrading the endlinks. I would grab some 1LE toe rods, and either a Z/28 or BMR UCA, AND, if you haven't upgraded the rear subframe bushings to solid, you should!

Jmgcamaro71 · 04-02-2018, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by LCPLPunk

I'm going for a mostly handling build and I'm not worrying about upgrading the endlinks. I would grab some 1LE toe rods, and either a Z/28 or BMR UCA, AND, if you haven't upgraded the rear subframe bushings to solid, you should!

But as far as initial installation, I don’t need any upgraded parts to fit the new parts

KillboyPowerhead · 04-02-2018, 01:55 PM

The factory front and rear end-links/drop-links are fine for even the biggest, baddest sway bars out there...

Jmgcamaro71 · 04-04-2018, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by KillboyPowerhead

The factory front and rear end-links/drop-links are fine for even the biggest, baddest sway bars out there...

Sweet I thought they might be, appreciate it

BMR Sales · 04-04-2018, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KillboyPowerhead

The factory front and rear end-links/drop-links are fine for even the biggest, baddest sway bars out there...

I disagree - the Front End Links are the size of a Pencil - 3/8" in Diameter and about 12" long. This in a Heavy Car with Beefier SBs. That's why people need a Billet Endlink like ours that is much stronger.

KillboyPowerhead · 04-04-2018, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BMR Sales

I disagree - the Front End Links are the size of a Pencil - 3/8" in Diameter and about 12" long. This in a Heavy Car with Beefier SBs. That's why people need a Billet Endlink like ours that is much stronger.

I'm certainly no expert, but just because the factory links are weaker than those doesn't mean they aren't strong enough

. I don't have much experience driving this car to its limits but I've never yet heard of a front (or rear) link bending or breaking, but then again what do I know

hrpiii · 04-04-2018, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jmgcamaro71

How’s it going guys, I just purchased the stage 1 suspension from Hurst, which is lowering springs with upgraded sway bars, my question is do I need upgraded end links or will the stockers suffice? And also what other issues/tips should I look for as this is the first vehicle I’ve ever lowered, and driven. Thanks in advance.

will the suffice, probably. But if you push this heavy pig, it will snap one of them. I have a tendency to break the rear endlinks. Look at upgrading them down the road if you don't now.

BMR Sales · 04-05-2018, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by KillboyPowerhead

I'm certainly no expert, but just because the factory links are weaker than those doesn't mean they aren't strong enough

. I don't have much experience driving this car to its limits but I've never yet heard of a front (or rear) link bending or breaking, but then again what do I know

I have seen bent & broken Stock Links. Heck I've seen a couple of our Old Design (welded) break.

Also have seen bent & broken rear Trailing Arms & Toe Rods

Avenging Orange · 04-05-2018, 10:09 AM

If you push anything hard enough, it will break. But, yes, the fronts at minimum.

KillboyPowerhead · 04-05-2018, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BMR Sales

I have seen bent & broken Stock Links. Heck I've seen a couple of our Old Design (welded) break.

Also have seen bent & broken rear Trailing Arms & Toe Rods

Nice... Well I guess that begs the question for the OP: how hard will the car be pushed?

Jmgcamaro71 · 04-13-2018, 11:49 AM

I think I might just research some end links, since I’m gonna be changing things

03-31-2018, 02:43 AM	#1
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03-31-2018, 06:11 AM	#2
LCPLPunk USA-1 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS L99 Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Near DC Posts: 1,893 View My Garage	I'm going for a mostly handling build and I'm not worrying about upgrading the endlinks. I would grab some 1LE toe rods, and either a Z/28 or BMR UCA, AND, if you haven't upgraded the rear subframe bushings to solid, you should! __________________ "A Camaro in the garage is safe, but that's not what Camaros are built for..." R2C CAI / Apex Scoop / VMAX Ported TB / Speed Engineering LTHs / X-pipe / GPI port/rod-mod intake manifold / Circle D 3200 278mm Converter / 3.91 gears / DynoSteve tuned / 1LE Shocks/Struts/Toe Links / ZL1 Rear Sway Bar / Z/28 Trailing arms / Prothane Radius Arm & Subframe Bushings / BMR UCA Bracket, Steering rack bushing / B&M Tranny Cooler / RX Catch Can / Jannetty Tranny Dipstick / 2012+ Heater Hose / 2013+ Rearview Mirror / Fuel rail flip / Drake shifter / Oil Cooler Delete

04-02-2018, 01:55 PM	#4
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04-05-2018, 10:09 AM	#10
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04-13-2018, 11:49 AM	#12
Jmgcamaro71 Drives: 2013 and 1971 Camaro RS SS, Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 52	I think I might just research some end links, since I’m gonna be changing things