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Old 09-21-2012, 11:45 PM   #43
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When my MAF was unplugged the stablitrak went nuts and said it needed service but once I plugged the MAF back up all was good again except I had a CEL which prevented my remote start. The car ran fine the whole time so I did the fuse pull and that reset the CEL and everything went back to normal. Im still confused as to what Vararam was trying to tell me though. Can anyone enlighten me?
I'm starting to think that they might just be telling me that I'm an idiot for running one of these in front of my Throttle Body:
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Old 09-22-2012, 02:35 AM   #44
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Is it april fools already? or am I missing something?
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Old 09-22-2012, 03:14 AM   #45
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When my MAF was unplugged the stablitrak went nuts and said it needed service but once I plugged the MAF back up all was good again except I had a CEL which prevented my remote start. The car ran fine the whole time so I did the fuse pull and that reset the CEL and everything went back to normal. Im still confused as to what Vararam was trying to tell me though. Can anyone enlighten me?
are you certain it was your MAF plug and not the TB plug? i've had the stabilitrack lights with the TB plug disconnected. its part of how the ECU it controls TQ management.
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Old 09-22-2012, 06:53 AM   #46
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i hope we can all agree that while Vararam may indeed sell a product that allows air to enter the engine, the people there are Snake Oil Salesmen.

Too bad the other OTR option doesn't flow.....proven with numbers in independent testing.

Hell, I don't even have my Camaro anymore, I have nothing to gain. Hopefully the rest of this thread has "opened a few eyebrows." Jon Bones Jones style?
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Old 09-22-2012, 07:00 AM   #47
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I'm starting to think that they might just be telling me that I'm an idiot for running one of these in front of my Throttle Body:
Naaa, your not bud. They work in real life, I'll attest to that. But it seems that ever since that they've just been blowing smoke at folks here, no bueno. Like I've said before, I'll defend the common folk.
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Old 09-22-2012, 07:28 AM   #48
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No mr white this is the top view.. Everything isint what it appears to be lol




Very nice Jason!! Loved every bit of that.

You know people consider me a troll, yes I have a dry? Sense of humor BUT I just want to open some members eyes and not feed in to the hype!

Like stated before I'm so disappointed in vararam right now. No secrets revealed many knew this.... Come on man
I didn't post here because I was reading into "hype" I simply did this to first see if it was true, and second to see who would actually step up without a 2012 and see if the outcome was the same. Video proof it was!! So at the end of the day the claim of this was a "2012 issue" and not a pre 2012 is obviously not true. Thats all. Hype is what you precieve it as, clearly we're all different here.

LIL88 other may think your a troll however, I don't think anything about you as I don't even know who you are. As for your dry sense of humor, I am surrounded by a stafff of 50 or so mechanical and aerodynamic engineers every day. It doesn't get worse than that.......

No harm no foul. Thank you Jason for stepping up with the video.

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Old 09-22-2012, 08:05 AM   #49
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I give you... 2012 Camaro ECM myths... (My car is a 2010)



(pardon the runny nose)

I see no significant difference at this time. Give me something else to test...
Well shit! I just spent all last night setting up my car to do this same thing

j/k

Thanks Jason for doing this.

I was going to suggest that one of us get a hold of GB to address this, since he is a GM calibration engineer. No need to bother him now.

Despite how the latest information makes you feel, for those with a Vararam intake don't worry, you still have the best street and strip air intake CURRENTLY available.
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Old 09-22-2012, 08:19 AM   #50
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This is very confusing to me! Why would Vararam post this without first verifying that it doesn't work on a pre '12? I have their intake on my '10 and love it! I tried 4 other brands and this is the only one that I liked for performance. They seem to know their shit but why blow smoke up our buts with a post like this? I've been critical about little88's posts but now I'm seeing the light. That's why I've held off on the wedge, I like to sit back and let the smoke clear before making purchases now! I've learned that from past mistakes! lol!
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Old 09-22-2012, 08:20 AM   #51
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There is always one is every crowd ^^^^. Anyhow........ It takes less effort to blow out a birthday candle than it did to kill the engine.
This just shows how sensitive Maf sensors are and has nothing to do with the big secret.

Every car with a maf dating back to the very first one in existence will do this, blow air on the maf the maf sees it as engine air flow change and adds fuel and stalls the engine.

Great Job Jason.

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Old 09-22-2012, 08:21 AM   #52
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I didn't post here because I was reading into "hype" I simply did this to first see if it was true, and second to see who would actually step up without a 2012 and see if the outcome was the same. Video proof it was!! So at the end of the day the claim of this was a "2012 issue" and not a pre 2012 is obviously not true. Thats all. Hype is what you precieve it as, clearly we're all different here.

LIL88 other may think your a troll however, I don't think anything about you as I don't even know who you are. As for your dry sense of humor, I am surrounded by a stafff of 50 or so mechanical and aerodynamic engineers every day. It doesn't get worse than that.......

No harm no foul. Thank you Jason for stepping up with the video.


No sir I never posted that directing it towards you personally, Id never do that. It was in general, I want others to keep their minds open, that's all. God 50 geniuses hu? Know it alls too? Lol
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Old 09-22-2012, 10:22 AM   #53
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are you certain it was your MAF plug and not the TB plug? i've had the stabilitrack lights with the TB plug disconnected. its part of how the ECU it controls TQ management.
Yes sir, the same plug Jason unplugged in his video. I thought it was odd it would effect the stabliatrak.
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Old 09-22-2012, 10:49 AM   #54
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Jason's stabilitrak light is on as well if I'm not mistaken.
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Old 09-22-2012, 10:55 AM   #55
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Jason's stabilitrak light is on as well if I'm not mistaken.
It did come on, it says it did in the video. In the video I said "The stabilitrack & traction control lights are on but that's ok, we're not gonna get crazy", but it fell in a part that I was speeding up because I was waiting for all the cars to pass.

I did this video in just 2 takes, one for each test. It was completely unrehearsed, and I didn't know what was going to happen. That was the main reason for checking the AFR so much. If it was going to get dangerously lean I wouldn't have continued, or driven the car. Having the A/F gauge to show was just an added bonus to show that nothing really changed as I did things.

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Old 09-22-2012, 10:58 AM   #56
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So what does the MAF have to do with the stabilitrak system?
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