[chrisvr6]

Originally Posted by AbsolutHank

Holy wheelgap!!

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[crankaholic]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

This was from Z284ever's post on GMI forums. I didn't speak wth Al O.

That's very good info... I knew they (or anyone else) wouldn't have used MRC for these (track) cars if it didn't actually improve performance.

Originally Posted by chrisvr6

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Although that might be a bit too low for my tastes.

[shaffe]

No Freaking Way the SS 1LE comes in under 40K. The 1SS is already 37,295. No freaking way they make this package for under 40K

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by shaffe

No Freaking Way the SS 1LE comes in under 40K. The 1SS is already 37,295. No freaking way they make this package for under 40K

That's what I was thinking. If the 1LE was the same cost as the previous package, it would already go over $40k.

[crankaholic]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

That's what I was thinking. If the 1LE was the same cost as the previous package, it would already go over $40k.

Maybe the OP meant under $50k..?

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by crankaholic

Maybe the OP meant under $50k..?

That's quite a big spread. I'll ask though.

[Arodr395]

Originally Posted by chrisvr6

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I personally wouldn't lower the car that much but it still looks miles better than stock ride height

[Eric SS]

Originally Posted by shaffe

No Freaking Way the SS 1LE comes in under 40K. The 1SS is already 37,295. No freaking way they make this package for under 40K

That's what I was thinking. If this thing is under $40k, my decision will be super easy!

[chrisvr6]

Originally Posted by Arodr395

I personally wouldn't lower the car that much but it still looks miles better than stock ride height

its not so easy to find the correct height

[RenegadeXR]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

I don't believe Chevy has ever offered a rear seat delete on the 5th or 6th-gen Camaros. This isn't a "stripper" car...it still has A/C, leather, power everything, HUD. The 1SS is actually quite well equipped...but it is "focused"...meaning that anything from the 2SS trim that didn't contribute to the performance of the car, they left out.

I mean, either way you slice it, you have to admit this is a really hard argument to make here. How can you say that power seats have anything to do with performance of the car?

You know what my bet is? Most people who buy the 1LE won't track it and will demand an upgraded sound system. Just like most people who bought the SS admitted they would never track it and demanded that they have an option to get rid of the stock spoiler, even if it did contribute to aero. Well guess what? Now you can order the blade spoiler for the SS despite every engineer at GM previously saying this wouldn't be allowed. Maybe the biggest testament to all this is that the 1LE, a performance oriented car, comes with the blade spoiler too. Why? Market appeal. They can talk about performance until they're blue in the face, then go ahead and do the opposite of what they claimed they'd never do once they realize they alienated the real audience of buyers versus their imagined target audience.

At the end of the day, GM will bend to the demand of the market even if their original intent was to appeal to the hardcore enthusiast. They won't leave money sitting on the table, and a 2SS 1LE that's fully loaded is *a lot* of money to leave off the table.

Mark my words, by the time this launches, they will reverse their course on some of these decisions. You will probably be able to get a 2SS 1LE.

[-Rooster-]

Originally Posted by shaffe

No Freaking Way the SS 1LE comes in under 40K. The 1SS is already 37,295. No freaking way they make this package for under 40K

Yes, but what are they actually selling for. Under $40k invoice has been my hope all along.

[Eric SS]

Originally Posted by RenegadeXR

I mean, either way you slice it, you have to admit this is a really hard argument to make here. How can you say that power seats have anything to do with performance of the car?

You know what my bet is? Most people who buy the 1LE won't track it and will demand an upgraded sound system. Just like most people who bought the SS admitted they would never track it and demanded that they have an option to get rid of the stock spoiler, even if it did contribute to aero.

At the end of the day, GM will bend to the demand of the market even if their original intent was to appeal to the hardcore enthusiast. They won't leave money sitting on the table, and a 2SS 1LE that's fully loaded is *a lot* of money to leave off the table.

Mark my words, by the time this launches, they will reverse their course on some of these decisions. You will probably be able to get a 2SS 1LE.

You really took the words right out of my mouth. They are leaving money on the table on this one. In fact, if the package is the same price on bot h1SS and 2SS, they'll make more money on the 2SS 1LE package because the 2SS already has some items are are added to the 1SS 1LE package (HUD) and some items they remove (leather seats) cost more than what the parts that replace them cost to begin with on the 1SS (cloth seats).

[Doggman]

Originally Posted by chrisvr6

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Too filthy. Take my money now.

On a serious note what are the particulars on dropping an MRC equipped Chevrolet. So far I've read that you can do a 1" drop via lowering springs without too many known adverse effects but that is debatable.

What about completely gutting the entire MRC system and replacing with something like KW Clubsports? I'm assuming something will have to be done about the computer that is expecting signals from the shocks but is the suspension geometry any different? Same control arms, links, mounting hardware etc between MRC and non-MRC?

[Eric SS]

Originally Posted by Doggman

Too filthy. Take my money now.

On a serious note what are the particulars on dropping an MRC equipped Chevrolet. So far I've read that you can do a 1" drop via lowering springs without too many known adverse effects but that is debatable.

What about completely gutting the entire MRC system and replacing with something like KW Clubsports? I'm assuming something will have to be done about the computer that is expecting signals from the shocks but is the suspension geometry any different? Same control arms, links, mounting hardware etc between MRC and non-MRC?

I'm sure you'll have to do something because I think if there is an MRC issue it limits your car to 85mph (to keep you from going back in time )

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showpo...9&postcount=12