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Swacer · 10-14-2013, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Cheveey57

Lol! Crap!the scion is nothing more than an updated Celica.

and the uneducated redneck of the day award goes to....

Firefighter · 10-14-2013, 08:29 AM

One of the guys at work just got an FR-S. I can see the attraction to it. I would not be comfortable in it for more than a short jaunt. He loves the car but complains that it needs more power (needs Turbo or S/C) but like the suspension. He also feels that it needs more tire and the wheels (IMHO) aren't exactly great looking.

He did comment that it was the only car he could afford (he's much younger on the job than me so he makes less $$$) that garnered attention like a Camaro or a Porsche. His words not mine.

Personally I'm not a fan of imports but I can see how fun they potentially are. Just looking at the Subaru and Scion site I think the Subie looks better.

With the Subie lineage it needs Turbo and AWD... just my thoughts.

thxultra · 10-18-2013, 03:44 PM

I have to admit the frs is fun to drive. They are great in turns and like said above they are fun cars. Would love to drive one of those Crawford turbo ones. Bet that car is crazy with 450HP.

L99CAMA2011 · 10-20-2013, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by aggieguy13

i think the better question is why is toyota not suing Subaru for Copy/Paste

Looks like you missed the boat on this one. They joined in the productions of these cars no suing required.Look at this modded one, looks like it beat the ZL-1 time but not what I expected ,

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caper · 10-20-2013, 09:15 PM

a buddy at work has one. he talks it up like its better than a camaro , better performance etc...and while i read that its fun...that is simply not true...maybe some day i will take him for a ride in my car MUHAHAHAHA

Nessal · 10-21-2013, 12:01 AM

The S2000 is better in every aspect. IMO this car is overrated. If they come out with a STI model with 300hp, then they are talking.

72MachOne99GT · 10-21-2013, 08:13 PM

Just to see how everyone reacts..

As much of a 'lower' tier car like everyone is calling it, it was rated above both a GT500 and a ZL1 in the lightning lap that MT did last year.

Curious if anyone puts much weight into that considering it was slower in every way. And if they don't put weight into it, do they put weight into magazines picking the ZL1 over the GT500 even though it was slower in most of the comparisons.

*Yes, I'm well aware that's a loaded question lol*

alaskacamaro · 10-22-2013, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 72MachOne99GT

Just to see how everyone reacts..

As much of a 'lower' tier car like everyone is calling it, it was rated above both a GT500 and a ZL1 in the lightning lap that MT did last year.

Curious if anyone puts much weight into that considering it was slower in every way. And if they don't put weight into it, do they put weight into magazines picking the ZL1 over the GT500 even though it was slower in most of the comparisons.

*Yes, I'm well aware that's a loaded question lol*

Your poking the beast here...lol

I think bumping the power/tq to 350 and all the supporting mods (suspension, brakes, tranny etc) would make one hell of an impressive "lower" tier car. 450 seems to push this car beyond the limits of a DD or track car.

Yes, I am one of those who believe that there is more to a car than just a fast 1/4 mile.

caper · 10-22-2013, 11:14 AM

riding A Pocket Bike Is Fun, But If You Actually Want Performance Than YouNeed A Bigger Sport Bike. I Don't Believe It Should've Ranked Higher Than Both Those Cars...They Are Not Even Close In Performance. At Least The Zl1 Is Close To The Cobra.

kevint · 10-23-2013, 01:06 PM

SIMPSONS DID IT

Dynamite · 10-24-2013, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 72MachOne99GT

Just to see how everyone reacts..

As much of a 'lower' tier car like everyone is calling it, it was rated above both a GT500 and a ZL1 in the lightning lap that MT did last year.

Curious if anyone puts much weight into that considering it was slower in every way. And if they don't put weight into it, do they put weight into magazines picking the ZL1 over the GT500 even though it was slower in most of the comparisons.

*Yes, I'm well aware that's a loaded question lol*

In Car and Driver's 2013 Lightning Lap the Brz was 17 seconds slower than the SS camaro and 21 seconds slower than the ZL1.

Camaro Time

BRZ Time

raptor5244 · 10-24-2013, 08:49 PM

The Frs is around 2700lbs. That is what makes it feel quicker than it is. They are fun in there own way. However, weak exhaust note, 151lbs of torque, etc. The experience is so different it is tough to compare them.

SIXJAK · 10-24-2013, 11:54 PM

IIRC, someone has already successfully put an LS motor into one of these and it only added like 60lbs or something like that. Now that would be omazing.

72MachOne99GT · 10-25-2013, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dynamite

In Car and Driver's 2013 Lightning Lap the Brz was 17 seconds slower than the SS camaro and 21 seconds slower than the ZL1.

Camaro Time

BRZ Time

Uhh...yes, which would be why I said even though the car was slower in every way, they still ranked it higher than the GT500/ZL1.

I'd like the chance to drive one, preferably the BRZ, I don't care for the overall appearance of the FRS.

10-20-2013, 09:15 PM	#33
caper Drives: 2010 IOM 2ss/RS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: SoCal, I.E. Posts: 1,545	a buddy at work has one. he talks it up like its better than a camaro , better performance etc...and while i read that its fun...that is simply not true...maybe some day i will take him for a ride in my car MUHAHAHAHA __________________ Turbonetics running 8lbs boost at 700rwhp tuned by Hi Rev, installed by K&M w/cat-muffler delete, ACS splitter, Fesler GFX, MPD1 spoiler, Custom painted Rally stripes, Cordon CR1 wheels 275/315s, Hotchkiss comp sways and end links, Barton shifter

10-22-2013, 11:14 AM	#37
caper Drives: 2010 IOM 2ss/RS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: SoCal, I.E. Posts: 1,545	riding A Pocket Bike Is Fun, But If You Actually Want Performance Than YouNeed A Bigger Sport Bike. I Don't Believe It Should've Ranked Higher Than Both Those Cars...They Are Not Even Close In Performance. At Least The Zl1 Is Close To The Cobra. __________________ Turbonetics running 8lbs boost at 700rwhp tuned by Hi Rev, installed by K&M w/cat-muffler delete, ACS splitter, Fesler GFX, MPD1 spoiler, Custom painted Rally stripes, Cordon CR1 wheels 275/315s, Hotchkiss comp sways and end links, Barton shifter

10-24-2013, 11:54 PM	#41
SIXJAK Drives: MO's only SC'd LLT. Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Branson MO Posts: 2,574 View My Garage	IIRC, someone has already successfully put an LS motor into one of these and it only added like 60lbs or something like that. Now that would be omazing. __________________ IPF supercharger kit, IPF tune, SW LT's, R. Tech HFC's, ARK DT-S catback, SS Brembo brake upgrade, BC Racing adjustable coilovers, Hurst STS, Pfadt rear arm package, Pfadt adjustable sways & end links, Pfadt diff bushings, BMR rear cradle full kit blk bezels,SS diffuser, Innovate gauges.

10-14-2013, 08:29 AM	#30
Firefighter Drives: Black '13 2SS/RS/1LE w/NPP/NAV Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Tampa by way of Miami... Posts: 4,934	One of the guys at work just got an FR-S. I can see the attraction to it. I would not be comfortable in it for more than a short jaunt. He loves the car but complains that it needs more power (needs Turbo or S/C) but like the suspension. He also feels that it needs more tire and the wheels (IMHO) aren't exactly great looking. He did comment that it was the only car he could afford (he's much younger on the job than me so he makes less $$$) that garnered attention like a Camaro or a Porsche. His words not mine. Personally I'm not a fan of imports but I can see how fun they potentially are. Just looking at the Subaru and Scion site I think the Subie looks better. With the Subie lineage it needs Turbo and AWD... just my thoughts.

10-18-2013, 03:44 PM	#31
thxultra Drives: Mean ass V6 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Chicago Posts: 128	I have to admit the frs is fun to drive. They are great in turns and like said above they are fun cars. Would love to drive one of those Crawford turbo ones. Bet that car is crazy with 450HP.

10-21-2013, 12:01 AM	#34
Nessal Drives: Exige, Miata, Ghia Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: CA, Bay Area Posts: 2,309	The S2000 is better in every aspect. IMO this car is overrated. If they come out with a STI model with 300hp, then they are talking.

10-23-2013, 01:06 PM	#38
kevint Drives: 2013 1SS Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 716	SIMPSONS DID IT

10-24-2013, 08:49 PM	#40
raptor5244 Drives: 2022 CT4-V Blackwing Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Florida Posts: 2,723	The Frs is around 2700lbs. That is what makes it feel quicker than it is. They are fun in there own way. However, weak exhaust note, 151lbs of torque, etc. The experience is so different it is tough to compare them.