3200 VS 3600 circle D - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Inferno dogg · 07-29-2020, 06:43 AM

Those of you with converters what is your opinion? mods are in my sig. How much difference will 400 rpm make?

Athletics101 · 07-29-2020, 10:26 AM

I have a circle D 3200 and I wish I had gone bigger your just leaving performance on the table. Don’t be afraid of a bigger stall. Do you plan on boost in the future?

Inferno dogg · 07-29-2020, 10:41 AM

Not sure on boost that is a lot of money lol, but may cam in the next couple years. Thanks for reply this is the info I'm looking for.

Bo White · 07-29-2020, 10:44 AM

3200 is good for a stock cam and that's about it.

Athletics101 · 07-29-2020, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Inferno dogg

Not sure on boost that is a lot of money lol, but may cam in the next couple years. Thanks for reply this is the info I'm looking for.

Just like bo said, the 3200 is small. Tho mine drives decent I wish I had went bigger. As far as FI in the future tho. If you go TT or centri they will work well with a bigger stall. A PD blower may have more traction issues.

gunchamp · 07-30-2020, 11:15 AM

I'm running their pro 5c and love it. It flashes to 4200-4500 area with my setup. Slides me right into my cams power band. I can vouch for that one

1JEWLDSSRS · 07-30-2020, 08:09 PM

I have been running a Precision 3200 for 2 years now and with my TSP Stage 3 cam it is not enough. I got it for a good price when we did the cam swap. I now have a Circle D 5C 4000-4200 stall that Im getting ready to install here in the next couple weeks. As Bo said, the 3200 is a good stall for stock. I have a friend that has a 3600 and he says it too is too small for his cam. Hope this helps. Good luck..

gunchamp · 07-31-2020, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 1JEWLDSSRS

I have been running a Precision 3200 for 2 years now and with my TSP Stage 3 cam it is not enough. I got it for a good price when we did the cam swap. I now have a Circle D 5C 4000-4200 stall that Im getting ready to install here in the next couple weeks. As Bo said, the 3200 is a good stall for stock. I have a friend that has a 3600 and he says it too is too small for his cam. Hope this helps. Good luck..

The 5C is an awesome converter. Good choice!

ss camaro-monte · 07-31-2020, 08:23 PM

Well I just went with the 2A 3000-3200 and it is a daily driver with a stock cam and it will be perfect for that. You really hardly notice it. Now I will say that if you are ever going to run a big cam I would go bigger and likely I will have to change this stall once I get a bigger cam down the road. I am sure it will work fine with a stage 2 type cam but it won't be optimal. It is probably a good stall for a stage 1 that doesn't really need a stall to work but would help it out alot.
We did a 80% rear suspension build up and even with the 2A I barely break the tires loose now. Suspension makes such a difference that I have better traction out of the hole now with the 2A then I did with the stock stall and stock suspension.

My brother and I just checked out the stall and really got it down. It flashes to about 3100 but it only brake stalls to about 2800.

The difference between say a 11 inch 2A and say a 3400 9/34 stall is drastically different in my option. My converter is really tight and almost feels stock. Some of the 9-10 inch converters are very loose. I drove in a 3600 yank stalled camaro and it was way looser than I would want for the street but it was a 9 1/2 converter I think.

My point is it isn't just the stall speed as much as the size of the converter that makes it "looser" but yes I think I didn't get enough stall either with the 11 inch 2A for even the strip. Think of the 2A as what should have come in the L99 from the factory. I would think a 265 or 258mm 10 1/4- 10 1/2 inch converter with a 3400-3800 stall would be a good spot on a street/strip car. Even a 3200 on a 10 1/2 inch converter will act very differently than a 11 inch 3200. I went conservative on this stall because my monte years ago had a 9 1/2 inch 3000 stall and that was a little crazy on the street for my taste because I thought it was too loose and I was worried it was too much going higher than 3200 but in reality it is the size of the converter that really matters imo.

ss camaro-monte · 07-31-2020, 08:35 PM

Either way if you are doing a gpi ss3 down the road I would get a minimum of a 10 1/2 or smaller converter from 3600 on up. You could get by with a 3600 but again it won't be optimal. I would probably land myself with something like this in a 3600-3700 https://www.circledspecialties.com/6...o-series-258mm. For that cam and I promise you others will say that is still to small and for maximum performance they are 100% correct. Plenty of guys run 4k+ stalls on the street and have no problem with it. It's just what you can live with. Some guys don't mind the really high stalls on a daily. Do yourself a favor and try to find a couple of local forum members that will let you go for a ride along that are stalled.

Bo White · 08-01-2020, 06:53 AM

I've had 3 buddies run a 4000 with the stock cam and was awesome. I daily a 6000 but I've got a pretty healthy custom TSP cam in mine.

Inferno dogg · 08-01-2020, 10:59 AM

Thanks for all the replys . This is something i realiy want to do. crazy thing is i am battling trying to find a builder that will even talk to me !!!

1JEWLDSSRS · 08-02-2020, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by gunchamp

The 5C is an awesome converter. Good choice!

Yes, I can't wait to get it installed. I picked it due to chatting with you several times.. Thanks..

JLGO · 08-09-2020, 07:27 PM

I have a 3200stall in my. TSP VVT 3.2 cammed camaro. I have been driving with that set up for over 2 years. It seems normal to me and when I purchased my cam TSP recommended that stall speed. What type of performance am I leaving on the table with having that stall speed? I am truly confused.

07-29-2020, 06:43 AM	#1
Inferno dogg Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Michigan Posts: 157	3200 VS 3600 circle D Those of you with converters what is your opinion? mods are in my sig. How much difference will 400 rpm make? __________________ GPI SS3 cam with top end goodies,Circle D 4c 3800 w/Derale trans cooler kit sold by GPI,3.90 yukon gears,Kooks long tube headers,Roto fab cold air intake, Corsa extreme 3" cat back, Dyno tuned by Andrews Auto Georgetown MI, Heritage Grille, T4 splitter with under tray, Anvil spoiler,MRR 228 reps with Nitto NT555G2 tires 315 rear 275 fronts,BMR poly bushings,HD Diff cover from RDP,Raytech install kit

07-29-2020, 10:26 AM	#2
Athletics101 Drives: 5th Gen L99 Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Lake Havasu City Posts: 244	I have a circle D 3200 and I wish I had gone bigger your just leaving performance on the table. Don’t be afraid of a bigger stall. Do you plan on boost in the future? __________________ LSA conversion 2.5 upper 10% lower, L99 converted to LS3. TSP 229/244 cam, TSP LS3 ported and milled heads milled .015,Kooks LT’s no cats, Roto Fab, Borla arak cat back. 3200 stall,Forgestar F14 18’s and drag radials, pedders coil overs, BMR trailing arms & adjustable toe rods, mildly stripped Interior 685/613 on E 610/571 on 91

07-29-2020, 10:41 AM	#3
Inferno dogg Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Michigan Posts: 157	Not sure on boost that is a lot of money lol, but may cam in the next couple years. Thanks for reply this is the info I'm looking for. __________________ GPI SS3 cam with top end goodies,Circle D 4c 3800 w/Derale trans cooler kit sold by GPI,3.90 yukon gears,Kooks long tube headers,Roto fab cold air intake, Corsa extreme 3" cat back, Dyno tuned by Andrews Auto Georgetown MI, Heritage Grille, T4 splitter with under tray, Anvil spoiler,MRR 228 reps with Nitto NT555G2 tires 315 rear 275 fronts,BMR poly bushings,HD Diff cover from RDP,Raytech install kit

07-30-2020, 11:15 AM	#6
gunchamp Drives: 15 Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Mountains of central PA Posts: 1,442	I'm running their pro 5c and love it. It flashes to 4200-4500 area with my setup. Slides me right into my cams power band. I can vouch for that one __________________ 15 Camaro SS- GPI max top end, ESS Vortech V3 9psi, ID 1050s, ZL1 pump, JMS bap, Long tubes, Corsa extreme, Circle D pro 5C, 391 rear, DSS carbon drive shaft, poly cradle bushings, tuned by Ted Jannetty and much much more

07-30-2020, 08:09 PM	#7
1JEWLDSSRS Drives: 2011 SS-RS Join Date: May 2011 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 11,435	I have been running a Precision 3200 for 2 years now and with my TSP Stage 3 cam it is not enough. I got it for a good price when we did the cam swap. I now have a Circle D 5C 4000-4200 stall that Im getting ready to install here in the next couple weeks. As Bo said, the 3200 is a good stall for stock. I have a friend that has a 3600 and he says it too is too small for his cam. Hope this helps. Good luck.. __________________ TSP STAGE 3 CAM,231/246 @112 LSA 614/641 LIFT, CIRCLE D 5C-4200-4500 CONVERTER,LOD INTAKE.CORSA EXHAUST. DSS 1 PC DS. PEGASUS SOLID CRADLE MOUNTS. 486RWHP/475RWTQ.LOTS MORE.

07-29-2020, 10:44 AM	#4
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	3200 is good for a stock cam and that's about it.

07-31-2020, 08:23 PM	#9
ss camaro-monte Drives: 2015 camaro 2ss, 87 monte ss Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Houston Posts: 241	Well I just went with the 2A 3000-3200 and it is a daily driver with a stock cam and it will be perfect for that. You really hardly notice it. Now I will say that if you are ever going to run a big cam I would go bigger and likely I will have to change this stall once I get a bigger cam down the road. I am sure it will work fine with a stage 2 type cam but it won't be optimal. It is probably a good stall for a stage 1 that doesn't really need a stall to work but would help it out alot. We did a 80% rear suspension build up and even with the 2A I barely break the tires loose now. Suspension makes such a difference that I have better traction out of the hole now with the 2A then I did with the stock stall and stock suspension. My brother and I just checked out the stall and really got it down. It flashes to about 3100 but it only brake stalls to about 2800. The difference between say a 11 inch 2A and say a 3400 9/34 stall is drastically different in my option. My converter is really tight and almost feels stock. Some of the 9-10 inch converters are very loose. I drove in a 3600 yank stalled camaro and it was way looser than I would want for the street but it was a 9 1/2 converter I think. My point is it isn't just the stall speed as much as the size of the converter that makes it "looser" but yes I think I didn't get enough stall either with the 11 inch 2A for even the strip. Think of the 2A as what should have come in the L99 from the factory. I would think a 265 or 258mm 10 1/4- 10 1/2 inch converter with a 3400-3800 stall would be a good spot on a street/strip car. Even a 3200 on a 10 1/2 inch converter will act very differently than a 11 inch 3200. I went conservative on this stall because my monte years ago had a 9 1/2 inch 3000 stall and that was a little crazy on the street for my taste because I thought it was too loose and I was worried it was too much going higher than 3200 but in reality it is the size of the converter that really matters imo.

07-31-2020, 08:35 PM	#10
ss camaro-monte Drives: 2015 camaro 2ss, 87 monte ss Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Houston Posts: 241	Either way if you are doing a gpi ss3 down the road I would get a minimum of a 10 1/2 or smaller converter from 3600 on up. You could get by with a 3600 but again it won't be optimal. I would probably land myself with something like this in a 3600-3700 https://www.circledspecialties.com/6...o-series-258mm. For that cam and I promise you others will say that is still to small and for maximum performance they are 100% correct. Plenty of guys run 4k+ stalls on the street and have no problem with it. It's just what you can live with. Some guys don't mind the really high stalls on a daily. Do yourself a favor and try to find a couple of local forum members that will let you go for a ride along that are stalled.

08-01-2020, 06:53 AM	#11
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	I've had 3 buddies run a 4000 with the stock cam and was awesome. I daily a 6000 but I've got a pretty healthy custom TSP cam in mine.

08-01-2020, 10:59 AM	#12
Inferno dogg Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Michigan Posts: 157	Thanks for all the replys . This is something i realiy want to do. crazy thing is i am battling trying to find a builder that will even talk to me !!! __________________ GPI SS3 cam with top end goodies,Circle D 4c 3800 w/Derale trans cooler kit sold by GPI,3.90 yukon gears,Kooks long tube headers,Roto fab cold air intake, Corsa extreme 3" cat back, Dyno tuned by Andrews Auto Georgetown MI, Heritage Grille, T4 splitter with under tray, Anvil spoiler,MRR 228 reps with Nitto NT555G2 tires 315 rear 275 fronts,BMR poly bushings,HD Diff cover from RDP,Raytech install kit

08-09-2020, 07:27 PM	#14
JLGO Drives: 2015 Camaro SS convertible L99 Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 245	I have a 3200stall in my. TSP VVT 3.2 cammed camaro. I have been driving with that set up for over 2 years. It seems normal to me and when I purchased my cam TSP recommended that stall speed. What type of performance am I leaving on the table with having that stall speed? I am truly confused. __________________ Corsa CAI w/Donalson Power Filter, BBK 1 7/8 headers, MF resonator, custom exhaust with Legato mufflers, mildly ported heads, TSP VVT 3.2 cam (whole package), 3.91 1LE gears, Circle D 3200 stall torque converter, B&M power cooler tranny cooler. Tuned by Casey TSP's tuner. 1/4 12.16 117mph with stock tires at 20 psi.