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Old as Dirt · 08-22-2013, 10:16 AM

1: needs to be 1 ohm stable
2: needs to produce 1500W RMS
3: needs to be affordable

Whatcha got?

Camaroshark · 08-22-2013, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old as Dirt

1: needs to be 1 ohm stable
2: needs to produce 1500W RMS
3: needs to be affordable

Whatcha got?

Does that exist?

2010SSRSM6 · 08-22-2013, 11:28 AM

Rockford Fosgate has a T1500-1dbCP that is 1 ohm stable @ 1500 watts. The power series used to be pretty good qualty amps, but the sound quality isn't what it used to be. M.S.R.P is $799

Arc Audio has a 1200.1 that is 1 ohm stable @ 1000watts. It is $799 M.S.R.P, I've see them as low as $549.

Audison has a LRx 1.2K that is 1 ohm stable @ 3200 watts or can brigde it to 6000.

Old as Dirt · 08-22-2013, 11:29 AM

I know "Kicker" makes a 1500W Class "D" monoblock amp, model 12-ZXS1500.1, but it is well north of 500.00.. and is not 1 ohm stable as far as I have found through researching it..

Rockford Fosgate looks to make a model T1500 1-bdcp which looks good as it claims to be 1 ohm stable and puts out the required RMS wattage for about 100.00 less than the Kicker..

"RE Audio" USX-45KV.1 Series Monoblock Class DE Car Amplifier looks to fill the need as well.. for about 350.00, so a little less than the Fosgate amp..

Old as Dirt · 08-22-2013, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2010SSRSM6

Rockford Fosgate has a T1500-1dbCP that is 1 ohm stable @ 1500 watts. The power series used to be pretty good qualty amps, but the sound quality isn't what it used to be. M.S.R.P is $799

Arc Audio has a 1200.1 that is 1 ohm stable @ 1000watts. It is $799 M.S.R.P, I've see them as low as $549.

Audison has a LRx 1.2K that is 1 ohm stable @ 3200 watts or can brigde it to 6000.

Thanks C.M. I'll bet that "Audison" amp is nice.. and expensive..

Old as Dirt · 08-22-2013, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camaroshark

Does that exist?

Yes.. I believe it does..

A couple of weeks ago, I purchased an "Audiopipe" APCL 15001D Monoblock amp to see if it would work like they claim, because I didn't want to spend 600.00+ on an amp.... I was kind of leary about them.. because I hadn't heard of them before.. Well, let me tell you they certainly back up the reviews online for some serious power and include subsonic/Low pass filters along with bass boost.. and get this... less than 150.00 to your door in most cases...

The reason I wanted the 1500 Watts RMS @ 1 ohm, was because I picked up a couple of 12" Pioneer Dual Voice Coil 4 ohm speakers(Which weigh about 38lbs each).. wired the speaker's voice coils in parallel to get them to 2 ohms.. and then did the same for the pair of speakers to get them to 1 ohm.. they can handle 1000W RMS and with the Audiopipe amp seeing only a 1 ohm load.. it puts out 1500W.. Now if it last's more than a few months.. I would have to say it is quite a bargain.. will report back if any issues arise between now and then.. here is the link to the install: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=312288

Best price found on EBay:
http://www.vminnovations.com/Product...mplifier-.html

Camaroshark · 08-22-2013, 08:36 PM

Didn't think there was any that are 1 ohm stable... Without spending big big $$$

Sammy_SS · 08-28-2013, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Camaroshark

Didn't think there was any that are 1 ohm stable... Without spending big big $$$

agreed. And if you find one, its probably an inflated spec and won't perform/sound good at all

Old as Dirt · 08-28-2013, 01:51 PM

Amps x Volts = Watts.. so it is probably putting out somewhere between 1200W to 1400W on a clamp test, considering they ship with a 100 Amp fuse(if it came with a 40A fuse onboard, I wouldn't consider buying one because it would surely be underpowered/rated).. was skeptical at first, but seems to be working flawlessly so far @ 1 ohm.. even heard of some guys pushing it to .5 ohm when researching them, and it survives as long as it doesn't overheat and is getting 14V power.

c5dreamer · 08-28-2013, 09:05 PM

Check Hifonics brx series

Icefsh · 08-30-2013, 10:03 PM

Look at this amp http://www.sonicelectronix.com/searc...word=ppi+p1000 1000 true watts at 1 ohm of power in a compact package. You could probably get 2 at such a cheap price.

Old as Dirt · 08-30-2013, 10:34 PM

147.00 and free shipping.. http://www.vminnovations.com/Product...mplifier-.html

NEW Audiopipe APCL-1500D 1500 Watt Mono D Amplifier

RMS Power:

600 x 1 RMS @ 4 Ohm
950 x 1 RMS @ 2 Ohm
1500 x 1 RMS @ 1 Ohm

100 Amp In Line Fuse Included
1 Ohm load stable
Built In Variable 12 dB/ Octave Crossover
Bass Boost 0-12dB
MOSFET Power Supply 3 Way Protection
Overload protection
Overheat protection
Variable low pass electronic crossover
Variable subsonic filter.
Built-in variable phase shift.
Distortions: <0.2% thd
Signal to noise ratio: 70db
Input level: 0.2-5v
Bass boost frequency: 30-80hz
Low pass filter: 40-180hz
Subsonic filter: 5-50hz
Frequency response: 8-180hz
THIS IS HIGH POWERED AMPLIFIER AND SHOULD BE INSTALLED WITH A 1 FARAD OR HIGHER CAPACITOR
4 Gauge Power and Ground Wiring is Required for Installation!
Dimensions (WxHxL) 7" x 2.5" x 16"
Remote Bass Control Included
Weight: 10 lbs
Condition: BRAND NEW!
Part Number: APCL-15001D (APCL1500D)
Warranty: 1 Year Manufacturer Warranty

Sky · 08-31-2013, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old as Dirt

147.00 and free shipping.. http://www.vminnovations.com/Product...mplifier-.html

NEW Audiopipe APCL-1500D 1500 Watt Mono D Amplifier

RMS Power:

600 x 1 RMS @ 4 Ohm
950 x 1 RMS @ 2 Ohm
1500 x 1 RMS @ 1 Ohm

100 Amp In Line Fuse Included
1 Ohm load stable
Built In Variable 12 dB/ Octave Crossover
Bass Boost 0-12dB
MOSFET Power Supply 3 Way Protection
Overload protection
Overheat protection
Variable low pass electronic crossover
Variable subsonic filter.
Built-in variable phase shift.
Distortions: <0.2% thd
Signal to noise ratio: 70db
Input level: 0.2-5v
Bass boost frequency: 30-80hz
Low pass filter: 40-180hz
Subsonic filter: 5-50hz
Frequency response: 8-180hz
THIS IS HIGH POWERED AMPLIFIER AND SHOULD BE INSTALLED WITH A 1 FARAD OR HIGHER CAPACITOR
4 Gauge Power and Ground Wiring is Required for Installation!
Dimensions (WxHxL) 7" x 2.5" x 16"
Remote Bass Control Included
Weight: 10 lbs
Condition: BRAND NEW!
Part Number: APCL-15001D (APCL1500D)
Warranty: 1 Year Manufacturer Warranty

So I'm completely new to car audio but what else would I need to add to my 2011 2LT/RS to allow me to use hook this up directly from my stock head unit to a sub?

Old as Dirt · 08-31-2013, 01:40 AM

What system do you have? Boston Acoustic or non-BA?

If your looking to do a budget install, and not looking to add all new speakers throughout the car.. this is a decent route to go.. and can be done for under 600.00

An enclosure built for your Camaro, a couple of good 10" or 12" speakers, a Line out converter for getting the signal to the amp off the 6x9 rear deck speakers, and a source for power to turn on the amp when the key is turned on... that will be it, besides a decent amp wiring kit.. can do everything in the trunk, but will have to run one wire to the rear of the console and tie into the 12v accessory outlet.. it does not connect directly to the head unit..

Other ways are possible with pre-built harnesses and enclosures that mount on either side in the rear of the trunk.. another option.. Check "********" for those if you are looking to replace the Boston Acoustic amp with something better to run your other factory or aftermarket speakers, most run a new 5 channel amp.. lots of ways to get better sound in your car..

08-22-2013, 10:16 AM	#1
Old as Dirt Drives: 2013 Camaro Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Monroe, Washington Posts: 89	Best "bang for the buck" sub amp.. 1: needs to be 1 ohm stable 2: needs to produce 1500W RMS 3: needs to be affordable Whatcha got?

08-22-2013, 11:28 AM	#3
2010SSRSM6 Drives: My wife crazy with my C5 usage. Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: DFW Posts: 6,558 View My Garage	Rockford Fosgate has a T1500-1dbCP that is 1 ohm stable @ 1500 watts. The power series used to be pretty good qualty amps, but the sound quality isn't what it used to be. M.S.R.P is $799 Arc Audio has a 1200.1 that is 1 ohm stable @ 1000watts. It is $799 M.S.R.P, I've see them as low as $549. Audison has a LRx 1.2K that is 1 ohm stable @ 3200 watts or can brigde it to 6000. __________________ UNDER CONSTRUCTION......again......

08-22-2013, 08:36 PM	#7
Camaroshark Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS RJT, 6speed Join Date: May 2011 Location: South Florida Posts: 887 View My Garage	Didn't think there was any that are 1 ohm stable... Without spending big big $$$ __________________ 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS, LS3 - 6 speed. Mods, Magnaflow exhaust with resonator delete. ******** 12" stealth box subwoofer kit, Kicker 400 mono amp, JL XD 400/4 amp.

08-28-2013, 01:51 PM	#9
Old as Dirt Drives: 2013 Camaro Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Monroe, Washington Posts: 89	Amps x Volts = Watts.. so it is probably putting out somewhere between 1200W to 1400W on a clamp test, considering they ship with a 100 Amp fuse(if it came with a 40A fuse onboard, I wouldn't consider buying one because it would surely be underpowered/rated).. was skeptical at first, but seems to be working flawlessly so far @ 1 ohm.. even heard of some guys pushing it to .5 ohm when researching them, and it survives as long as it doesn't overheat and is getting 14V power. Last edited by Old as Dirt; 08-28-2013 at 02:10 PM.

08-30-2013, 10:34 PM	#12
Old as Dirt Drives: 2013 Camaro Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Monroe, Washington Posts: 89	147.00 and free shipping.. http://www.vminnovations.com/Product...mplifier-.html NEW Audiopipe APCL-1500D 1500 Watt Mono D Amplifier RMS Power: 600 x 1 RMS @ 4 Ohm 950 x 1 RMS @ 2 Ohm 1500 x 1 RMS @ 1 Ohm 100 Amp In Line Fuse Included 1 Ohm load stable Built In Variable 12 dB/ Octave Crossover Bass Boost 0-12dB MOSFET Power Supply 3 Way Protection Overload protection Overheat protection Variable low pass electronic crossover Variable subsonic filter. Built-in variable phase shift. Distortions: <0.2% thd Signal to noise ratio: 70db Input level: 0.2-5v Bass boost frequency: 30-80hz Low pass filter: 40-180hz Subsonic filter: 5-50hz Frequency response: 8-180hz THIS IS HIGH POWERED AMPLIFIER AND SHOULD BE INSTALLED WITH A 1 FARAD OR HIGHER CAPACITOR 4 Gauge Power and Ground Wiring is Required for Installation! Dimensions (WxHxL) 7" x 2.5" x 16" Remote Bass Control Included Weight: 10 lbs Condition: BRAND NEW! Part Number: APCL-15001D (APCL1500D) Warranty: 1 Year Manufacturer Warranty

08-22-2013, 11:29 AM	#4
Old as Dirt Drives: 2013 Camaro Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Monroe, Washington Posts: 89	I know "Kicker" makes a 1500W Class "D" monoblock amp, model 12-ZXS1500.1, but it is well north of 500.00.. and is not 1 ohm stable as far as I have found through researching it.. Rockford Fosgate looks to make a model T1500 1-bdcp which looks good as it claims to be 1 ohm stable and puts out the required RMS wattage for about 100.00 less than the Kicker.. "RE Audio" USX-45KV.1 Series Monoblock Class DE Car Amplifier looks to fill the need as well.. for about 350.00, so a little less than the Fosgate amp..

08-28-2013, 09:05 PM	#10
c5dreamer Drives: Tacoma/2LTRS Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: CA Posts: 177	Check Hifonics brx series

08-30-2013, 10:03 PM	#11
Icefsh Drives: CGM 2LT/RS M6 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Littleton, CO. Posts: 195	Look at this amp http://www.sonicelectronix.com/searc...word=ppi+p1000 1000 true watts at 1 ohm of power in a compact package. You could probably get 2 at such a cheap price.

08-31-2013, 01:40 AM	#14
Old as Dirt Drives: 2013 Camaro Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Monroe, Washington Posts: 89	What system do you have? Boston Acoustic or non-BA? If your looking to do a budget install, and not looking to add all new speakers throughout the car.. this is a decent route to go.. and can be done for under 600.00 An enclosure built for your Camaro, a couple of good 10" or 12" speakers, a Line out converter for getting the signal to the amp off the 6x9 rear deck speakers, and a source for power to turn on the amp when the key is turned on... that will be it, besides a decent amp wiring kit.. can do everything in the trunk, but will have to run one wire to the rear of the console and tie into the 12v accessory outlet.. it does not connect directly to the head unit.. Other ways are possible with pre-built harnesses and enclosures that mount on either side in the rear of the trunk.. another option.. Check "********" for those if you are looking to replace the Boston Acoustic amp with something better to run your other factory or aftermarket speakers, most run a new 5 channel amp.. lots of ways to get better sound in your car..