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kbear951 · 06-17-2020, 03:25 PM

L99

stock exhaust:

Cold start
- https://streamable.com/1pk07f
Cold rev:
- https://streamable.com/2u6w7p

after FlowMaster Super 44 muffler swap:

Cold start & rev:
- https://streamable.com/0hfenn

🤬 Can somebody please explain to me how it is that my car now sounds like a @&$%!# Volkswagen?? 😇

On my way back to the shop to have an x-pipe installed and resonators deleted. While I’m there I’m going to have put my stock mufflers back on. The last thing I’m trying to do is amplify that horrific sound!

pnwdan · 06-17-2020, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbear951

L99

stock exhaust:

Cold start

- https://streamable.com/1pk07f

Cold rev:

- https://streamable.com/2u6w7p

after FlowMaster Super 44 muffler swap:

Cold start & rev:

- https://streamable.com/0hfenn

Can somebody please explain to me how it is that my car now sounds like a @&$%!# Volkswagen??

On my way back to the shop to have an x-pipe installed and resonators deleted. While I’m there I’m going to have put my stock mufflers back on. The last thing I’m trying to do is amplify that horrific sound!

Its probably the resonators

Bigdumogre · 06-17-2020, 03:52 PM

My flow masters sound amazing. Loud and like a old school muscle car

zz430camaro · 06-17-2020, 04:11 PM

drone masters?

kbear951 · 06-17-2020, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zz430camaro

drone masters?

I tried googling “Drone Masters” to no avail. What is that?
It’s not the drone that bothers me (at least at this point), it’s when I hit the gas. It’s absolutely pathetic and downright nauseating tbh.

It sounds okay at start-up sometimes. Idk about you guys, but the sound my Camaro makes at start-up is NEVER predictable lol.

I’m not thrilled about the idle. It’s a little louder at idle, similar to its stock cold idle, only now it reminds me a little of those idiots that buy some wimpy truck and then try to compensate by swapping the muffler -sounds stupid af. The difference between myself and the dummies I’m referring to is that I want my car to sound badass bc it IS badass! Lol.

Bigdumogre · 06-17-2020, 05:00 PM

Just switching mufflers always sounds weird imo. Long tubes and new pipes throughout makes all the difference

NEstyle · 06-17-2020, 06:04 PM

Those two clips sound pretty similar. I think an X will make it sound worse, but report back after it's installed.

kbear951 · 06-17-2020, 07:14 PM

Ok x-pipe installed...resonators deleted. Sounds amazing at start-up. Idles too loud, still ZERO sound when I hit the gas and NOW I have a drone problem. I told them to leave the super 44’s on bc I was thinking about swapping them with super 40’s and don’t want to pay to have my mufflers removed more times than necessary. I may have them J-pipe it to decrease drone as well. If that all fails it’s going back to stock.

All I want is some noise when I hit the gas....that’s literally it! I don’t want all this other noise (loud idle, drone, etc.). I want the noise where it counts. Everything else is all bark IMO. Any ideas?

SSammy · 06-17-2020, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbear951

L99

stock exhaust:

Cold start
- https://streamable.com/1pk07f
Cold rev:
- https://streamable.com/2u6w7p

after FlowMaster Super 44 muffler swap:

Cold start & rev:
- https://streamable.com/0hfenn

�� Can somebody please explain to me how it is that my car now sounds like a @&$%!# Volkswagen?? ��

On my way back to the shop to have an x-pipe installed and resonators deleted. While I’m there I’m going to have put my stock mufflers back on. The last thing I’m trying to do is amplify that horrific sound!

The resonator is the big noise killer, and a lot of dead weight, on our L99’s. When I did my axle back, I still had my resonator. I cut off the pipes and started it with no mufflers and it wasn’t much louder. An “X” or “H” in place of the resonator will make more of a difference than mufflers. I installed the stainless resonator delete x-pipe from summit racing.If you still have active fuel management, you may want to tune it out or use a disabler so you don’t get the 4 cylinder helicopter sound through your exhaust. Hope this helps.

X-pipe...
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-642135-ss

AFM disabler...
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/ret-ra003

On a different note, I added long tubes and high flow cats afterward, which made a HUGE difference in sound. With my legato axle back, LT’s, HF cats, and X-pipe, I have no drone at any rpm, it’s mild when cruising and very loud when wide open.

1JEWLDSSRS · 06-17-2020, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbear951

I tried googling “Drone Masters” to no avail. What is that?
It’s not the drone that bothers me (at least at this point), it’s when I hit the gas. It’s absolutely pathetic and downright nauseating tbh.

It sounds okay at start-up sometimes. Idk about you guys, but the sound my Camaro makes at start-up is NEVER predictable lol.

I’m not thrilled about the idle. It’s a little louder at idle, similar to its stock cold idle, only now it reminds me a little of those idiots that buy some wimpy truck and then try to compensate by swapping the muffler -sounds stupid af. The difference between myself and the dummies I’m referring to is that I want my car to sound badass bc it IS badass! Lol.

lol, "Drone Masters" is the nick name given to all the Flow Master mufflers because the all DRONE !! Some worse than others. I have the Flow Master 3inch ZL1 Outlaw quad catback and it is nasty sounding with the cam, LT's and off road mids, but drones like hell!! But I'm used to it now.

kbear951 · 06-17-2020, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSammy

The resonator is the big noise killer, and a lot of dead weight, on our L99’s. When I did my axle back, I still had my resonator. I cut off the pipes and started it with no mufflers and it wasn’t much louder. An “X” or “H” in place of the resonator will make more of a difference than mufflers. I installed the stainless resonator delete x-pipe from summit racing.If you still have active fuel management, you may want to tune it out or use a disabler so you don’t get the 4 cylinder helicopter sound through your exhaust. Hope this helps.

X-pipe...
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-642135-ss

AFM disabler...
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/ret-ra003

On a different note, I added long tubes and high flow cats afterward, which made a HUGE difference in sound. With my legato axle back, LT’s, HF cats, and X-pipe, I have no drone at any rpm, it’s mild when cruising and very loud when wide open.

Thanks for the advice!! I’ll do some research and then I’ll probably have some questions for you. ��

Here is a quick video clip of the current set-up:

https://streamable.com/pbi7wt

Bo White · 06-17-2020, 10:56 PM

I love me some Flows!

zz430camaro · 06-18-2020, 11:02 AM

I put on a ZL1 Flowmaster Outlaw system on my car and took it off after a 1 mile drive in the car. I droned and vibrated everything in the car and it was a joke. Not sure what series mufflers they were but it was obnoxious. At the end of the day you have to put on what you like

KJZ28 · 06-18-2020, 04:27 PM

Get rid of those resonators and you will be happy. I have long tubes, hi-flow cats, an Flowmaster American thunder cat-back. It sounds awesome.

06-17-2020, 03:25 PM	#1
kbear951 Drives: 2013 Camaro 2SS, L99 Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Orange County, California Posts: 19	FlowMaster Super 44 🤮 L99 stock exhaust: Cold start - https://streamable.com/1pk07f Cold rev: - https://streamable.com/2u6w7p after FlowMaster Super 44 muffler swap: Cold start & rev: - https://streamable.com/0hfenn 🤬 Can somebody please explain to me how it is that my car now sounds like a @&$%!# Volkswagen?? 😇 On my way back to the shop to have an x-pipe installed and resonators deleted. While I’m there I’m going to have put my stock mufflers back on. The last thing I’m trying to do is amplify that horrific sound!

06-17-2020, 03:52 PM	#3
Bigdumogre Drives: 2012 Camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: New York Posts: 1,434	My flow masters sound amazing. Loud and like a old school muscle car __________________ 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS - CSP Custom Cam 232/240 .615/.615 113 +3, Texas speed CNC heads, FTI billet triple disc converter, K&N cai, Katech ported TB, GPI Ported/rod modded manifold, Texas speed 1 7/8 headers, HFC, Flowmaster 2 chambers with x pipe, Mishimoto CC, MSD wires, Roto fab washer relocation, tru cool 40k trans cooler, apex scoop, Pedders extreme coil overs and much more!!

06-17-2020, 04:11 PM	#4
zz430camaro Drives: 2015 1LE Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 1,485	drone masters? __________________ 2015 1LE, TSP 225/236 113+3, VMAX Throttle Body, CAI with race scoop, GPI Ported Intake, Land Speed Stage 2 Heads, 1-7/8 headers, NPP exhaust, 25% Fluidampr, LT1-S Monster Clutch, 485 RWHP & 444 TQ

06-17-2020, 05:00 PM	#6
Bigdumogre Drives: 2012 Camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: New York Posts: 1,434	Just switching mufflers always sounds weird imo. Long tubes and new pipes throughout makes all the difference __________________ 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS - CSP Custom Cam 232/240 .615/.615 113 +3, Texas speed CNC heads, FTI billet triple disc converter, K&N cai, Katech ported TB, GPI Ported/rod modded manifold, Texas speed 1 7/8 headers, HFC, Flowmaster 2 chambers with x pipe, Mishimoto CC, MSD wires, Roto fab washer relocation, tru cool 40k trans cooler, apex scoop, Pedders extreme coil overs and much more!!

06-18-2020, 11:02 AM	#13
zz430camaro Drives: 2015 1LE Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 1,485	I put on a ZL1 Flowmaster Outlaw system on my car and took it off after a 1 mile drive in the car. I droned and vibrated everything in the car and it was a joke. Not sure what series mufflers they were but it was obnoxious. At the end of the day you have to put on what you like __________________ 2015 1LE, TSP 225/236 113+3, VMAX Throttle Body, CAI with race scoop, GPI Ported Intake, Land Speed Stage 2 Heads, 1-7/8 headers, NPP exhaust, 25% Fluidampr, LT1-S Monster Clutch, 485 RWHP & 444 TQ

06-17-2020, 06:04 PM	#7
NEstyle Drives: Caprice Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: SE PA Posts: 194	Those two clips sound pretty similar. I think an X will make it sound worse, but report back after it's installed.

06-17-2020, 07:14 PM	#8
kbear951 Drives: 2013 Camaro 2SS, L99 Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Orange County, California Posts: 19	Ok x-pipe installed...resonators deleted. Sounds amazing at start-up. Idles too loud, still ZERO sound when I hit the gas and NOW I have a drone problem. I told them to leave the super 44’s on bc I was thinking about swapping them with super 40’s and don’t want to pay to have my mufflers removed more times than necessary. I may have them J-pipe it to decrease drone as well. If that all fails it’s going back to stock. All I want is some noise when I hit the gas....that’s literally it! I don’t want all this other noise (loud idle, drone, etc.). I want the noise where it counts. Everything else is all bark IMO. Any ideas?

06-17-2020, 10:56 PM	#12
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	I love me some Flows!

06-18-2020, 04:27 PM	#14
KJZ28 Drives: 2018 Buick Regal TourX Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: North of NYC Posts: 546 View My Garage	Get rid of those resonators and you will be happy. I have long tubes, hi-flow cats, an Flowmaster American thunder cat-back. It sounds awesome. __________________ SOLD: 2010 2SS/RS L99-A6 K&N CAI, Speed Engineering Long Tube Headers, Stainless Works hi-flow cats, Flowmaster American Thunder Cat-back. Tuned by Corvettes of Westchester. 1/LE rear suspension conversion, Bilstein B6 Stuts/shocks.