09-22-2009, 09:26 AM | #29 | |
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We have a lot of emerging products with a relatively new system to place them on. I'm sure as time progresses, extensive testing will be done on all of them, but this may be a great initial "first-look" at them.
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09-22-2009, 09:52 AM | #30 | |
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I'm able to figure out which unit, like the Vararam, or Andy's which has the MAF inside the CAI box, MIGHT see improving results over time as the ECM adjusts versus a unit that's just a tube with a K&N filter stuck on the end. The starting point gives me an idea of how effective these units are immediately and what kind of gains might eventually be there based on the starting point. For example if a unit starts out with a gain of 15 rwhp, then I know over time as the ECM "learns" it's going to go up from there. If a different unit starts out at 10 rwhp, even if it gains 50% from ECM learning it I'd rather start with the other one that begins where this one might end up. Heat soak is an issue. What are the temps inside the unit while sitting at a stop during stop and go traffic? What are the temps inside when you shut the engine off, then come back and start it back up? These are the kinds of things this test would reveal and IMHO are valuable. I really don't see under these circumstances any practical way to run the long term tests you mentioned but I don't think that absence will in any way invalidate the results that they come up with.
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09-22-2009, 10:03 AM | #31 | |
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Like you said, I think other data such as intake temps during various different environments will give a good idea of long performance increases.
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09-22-2009, 10:09 AM | #32 |
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09-22-2009, 10:12 AM | #33 |
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Guys I don't want this to get out of hand so lets Please stick to the facts only.
I will be data logging the effects of the cold air kits on the Maf Transfer function and the fuel trims for each system. I will also Clear the computers Memory, before each kit, then do a drive cycle to let the computer adjust then make as many pulls as necessary to stablize the results. A/F will be monitored for each system. The only thing that affects A/F is the Maf Transfer Function, If the Maf transfer function is altered severely it throws off all the fueling and the timing calculations, I already know what to expect and will be watching this closely. I was down this road 15 years ago with the LT1s and aftermarket mafs and cold air kits. You will have to trust my experience in collecting solid data.
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09-22-2009, 10:20 AM | #34 | |
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09-22-2009, 10:20 AM | #35 | |
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09-22-2009, 10:32 AM | #36 |
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09-22-2009, 10:33 AM | #37 |
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can't wait to see the results! Thanks for the time/efforts your investing on our behalf.
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09-22-2009, 10:54 AM | #38 |
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OK great, now all these companies that were talking about testing can put up or shut up! I eagerly await the results!
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09-22-2009, 11:00 AM | #39 |
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I hated the stock airbox and elbow. I bought a CAI for the looks, that is it! 1 - 15 "probable" increase in HP is just a bonus to me.
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09-22-2009, 11:14 AM | #40 |
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I will send in my lmr intake if Andy will send me one of his street versions..
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09-22-2009, 02:37 PM | #41 |
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If you purchase a CAI,, is it worth it to get a aftermarket MAF as well? What bennefits would I see?
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I cant wait til you log fuel trims! 90% of the aftermarket cold air kits require programming to get the trims back in line. This week Ive tuned a hennesey, rotofab and a ADM. And maf transfer tuning was needed. |
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