Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
dave@hennessey
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > Members Area > General Automotive + Other Cars Discussion


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 01-12-2011, 12:51 AM   #1
SuperFly03
 
Drives: 2010 Kona Blue GT500
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Texas
Posts: 540
2010 GT500 Sub Install

Everyone knows I installed a sub in my 2010 Camaro. It was so stupidly simple I could get 4yr old drunk off Danny Tea and they could still install it in under an hour. Well then came the old switch a roo and I traded the 2010 Camaro SS in for a 2010 Shelby GT500. The Shelby came with the Shaker 500 sound system which includes 4x 6x8" speakers at 25w and 2x 8" woofers at... 200w (all peak... RMS much much lower).

After having my Boston Acoustics GTA-312-44 in my Camaro... stock systems just can't satisfy my need to feel my head pound and body shake as I drive down the road. So, after Christmas I proceeded to buy the necessary materials: Q-logic Ford Mustang Box (05-09, more on this later), line in adapter and street wires amp install kit. At this point, all I know is I want a sub in my Shelby. That is all.

Proceed to installation day... well what I thought was installation day. I started laying down the equivilant of dynamat and covered the bottom and sub side of the trunk including the spare tire well. Wasn't too bad... this is the most exhausting activity. Took hours to put down just 1 layer. After said rubber was laid down I proceeded to wire up the amp. I spent 2+ hours disassembling my interior (w/o any guide) attempting to find a place in the firewall to run my amp's power cable through but to no avail. I finally broke out the iPad in my garage and found out that if you remove the interior fender cover on the passenger side tire you can clip a plastic cover in the firewall and run it on through... FINALLY!

So I ran the amp lead through the plastic sheeth in the firewall and along the kick panel/door sill. Then there was the matter of the remote trigger wire (what causes the amp to turn on when the car turns on). Well... despite much searching I found nothing on 2010 Mustangs but I did find something on an 06. They had a general description of where the wire was so I poked around in a wire bundle that was at least 2.5" in circumfrence and pulled out a wire. I then spliced the remote wire to the amp into a wire which was an educated guess at best.

Then there was the problem of where to place the amp. On the Camaro I ordered a rack that sat opposite the sub and blended in perfectly. There was no such option on the Shelby. I looked at the interior I had disassembled and thought. I eventually decided I could suspend the amp from the rear deck. I went to Home Depot and bought some bolts and spacers. I contorted myself into the trunk and drilled 4 holes and suspended the amp and ran the power leads.

Now I thought the amp had power but where do I get the signal? Well based on my research you had 3 options: tap the rear speaker leads, tap the sub signal... err "woofers" in the door, or use the speaker level input adapter Boston provides. Well, I lost the adapter so that option was out so I decided to go with the woof signal for the sub. I thought maybe Ford had a crossover of sorts and limited the bass signal to the woofer amps. After hours of contorting my hands, fingers and body I tapped the leads (the amps are on the driver's side wall to the left of the clutch). I ghetto rigged up the line out signal adapter to the amp and then to the sub just to see if the signal worked. Nothing. Not so much as a thump.

I cut the wires to the line out adapter and proceeded to tap the rear speaker leads. One problem, which wire is positive and which is negative? I had already spent too much time tapping the wrong leads ... so I didn't want to waste more time. I mean, it's 1am and I have work the next day at this point. I found a guy online who did a rear speaker replacement on an 08-09 and based on his pictures I deduced which was positive and which was negative. No idea if I was right at this point. So I twisted all the wires together and crossed my fingers.

MONEY!

The sub worked, finally. So the next step was to splice in the wires appropriately so they wouldn't come loose. I then attached the line output adapter to the rear deck with double sided foam tape. We'll see how it holds. After that I pulled the sub out of the Camaro box which it had been in until this point and threw the Q logic box into the trunk. What I didn't mention before is in the 2010 Mustang's w/ Shaker 500... Ford moved the stock amp/sync module to the passenger side trunk behind the carpet. Right where the sub box is supposed to go. So I relocated the modules to the spare tire well since I don't have a spare.

After that I put the box in it's proper place and bolted it to the body as instructed. The problem was it doesn't fit right. This you would expect from a box made for 05-09 Mustangs. On ebay the auction said it was 05-10 and the seller was Q logic direct. Soooo I went with it despite my gut feeling it wouldn't fit. Well I got the box itself to fit however it also comes with a black plastic cover of sorts to cover up the screws in the woofer, the speaker leaders, etc. I worked that cover for an hour trying to get it into place. I dremeled off part of it which didn't fit the rear part of the trunk well and still I couldn't get the sub installed with the cover. I finally said F it and tossed the "cover". I drilled into the box and tightened the sub down. Everything is installed now... finally. I put the trunk back together and tested it out.

Money!

It's pimping. One problem: trunk rattle. I refused to be one of those people who has a sub and rolls down the street with their trunk rattling.

So tomorrow I have to lay down 2-3 more layers of the dynamat crap and reduce the rattle to an acceptable level.



Parts:
  1. Boston Acoustics GTA-312-44 12" Sub
  2. Boston Acoustics GTA-400M Amp
  3. Street Wires 8 gauge amp install kit
  4. Q Logic box Ford Mustang 05-09
  5. Lots of bolts
  6. Rattle Trap XTreme Kit - Ebay (Dynamat equivilant)
Pictures:

The original car:


Dynamat install:



Interior Disassembled:




Somewhere for the Amp power lead:




Remote wire tap:



Rear Deck:



Amp Installed:



Ghetto Signal Tap:



Final Wiring:



Sub Box w/ Plastic Cover:



Final Sub install:




Car reassembled:



Variable Bass Level Knob:]



All in all it took me 3 days and probably about 20 hours to get this crap right.

Time well spent.

I threw on "Porn Star Dancing" to test it out and I about had my head rattled off. Now I just need to replace the interior speakers next month with Boston Acoustics SR-50 speakers in the front and rear. Then I will be happy.
__________________
CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTANT [TEXAS]

You've been Thread Jacked by SF03!
Current Car: 2010 Kona Blue Shelby GT500 M6
Previous Car:
2010 Black Camaro 2SS/RS M6
Two Back: 2007 Black Shelby GT500 M6
SuperFly03 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2011, 06:33 PM   #2
Mr. Wyndham
I used to be Dragoneye...
 
Mr. Wyndham's Avatar
 
Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 31,876
Send a message via AIM to Mr. Wyndham
Wow....that's a lot of work for speakers.
__________________
"Keep the faith." - Fbodfather
Mr. Wyndham is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2011, 01:34 AM   #3
WadeWilson
How U Doin?
 
WadeWilson's Avatar
 
Drives: 2014 CTS-V Coupe
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Californication
Posts: 24,156
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragoneye View Post
Wow....that's a lot of work for speakers.
Clean install though. Hats off to you sir!
WadeWilson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2011, 04:17 AM   #4
porcupinekiller
 
porcupinekiller's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 GT500
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Sherwood Park, Alberta
Posts: 662
Quote:
I threw on "Porn Star Dancing" to test it out and I about had my head rattled off. Now I just need to replace the interior speakers next month with Boston Acoustics SR-50 speakers in the front and rear. Then I will be happy.
Good song...Canadian band.

porcupinekiller is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2011, 01:16 AM   #5
SuperFly03
 
Drives: 2010 Kona Blue GT500
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Texas
Posts: 540
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shardik2SS View Post
Clean install though. Hats off to you sir!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragoneye View Post
Wow....that's a lot of work for speakers.
Thank You. It really was a great deal of effort but very rewarding. 100x more effort than was required in my Camaro. In the 2 SS it was almost stupidly simple. Amp, battery and leads were in the trunk. 30 min of wiring and you were golden.

The Mustang was the exact opposite. I'm just glad it turned out as well as it did.

I hope whoever bought my Camaro used the pre-wired setup to just drop in an amp in 20 min and call it a day. The thing was dynamatted, wired, and ready to rock. Just needed an amp and a sub to wire it up to.


Actually, if anyone is interested, I still have my ******** box (12" hole) and passenger side amp rack. I need to sell it.

Next project is to replace the interior 6x8" speakers with Boston Acoustics SR-50's. Shaker 500 < Boston Acoustics System in my Camaro. In the Camaro, all I needed was bass. With the Shaker I feel the need to replace the interior speakers as well.
__________________
CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTANT [TEXAS]

You've been Thread Jacked by SF03!
Current Car: 2010 Kona Blue Shelby GT500 M6
Previous Car:
2010 Black Camaro 2SS/RS M6
Two Back: 2007 Black Shelby GT500 M6
SuperFly03 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2011, 01:17 AM   #6
SuperFly03
 
Drives: 2010 Kona Blue GT500
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Texas
Posts: 540
Quote:
Originally Posted by porcupinekiller View Post
Good song...Canadian band.

I agree. Not sure why... But I'm flat out addicted to that song. Absolutely love it.
__________________
CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTANT [TEXAS]

You've been Thread Jacked by SF03!
Current Car: 2010 Kona Blue Shelby GT500 M6
Previous Car:
2010 Black Camaro 2SS/RS M6
Two Back: 2007 Black Shelby GT500 M6
SuperFly03 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2011, 01:48 AM   #7
chutoyy
knows nothing...
 
Drives: 2SS 1LE
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Seattle-ish, WA
Posts: 151
Hmm... What (exactly) did you have to do to get that QLogic box to fit...? =D

My amp is currently stuck in that spot, but I do like trunk space... haha.

Edit: Have any use for that SYNC Module? hehe.
__________________
'18 6MT 2SS 1LE G7Q
chutoyy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2011, 06:10 PM   #8
SuperFly03
 
Drives: 2010 Kona Blue GT500
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Texas
Posts: 540
Quote:
Originally Posted by chutoyy View Post
Hmm... What (exactly) did you have to do to get that QLogic box to fit...? =D

My amp is currently stuck in that spot, but I do like trunk space... haha.

Edit: Have any use for that SYNC Module? hehe.
To get the Q Logic box to fit I had to leave off the black plastic shroud that also comes with it. It is just gathering dust in my garage. The box itself fit relatively well with a bit of pressure. The fit is tight and you bolt it down in 3 places. I did it all myself without and help or need to modify the car's panels.

I also had to relocate the sync module and amp module that were originally bolted into the passenger side of the trunk. I merely reran the wires and dumped the modules in the spare tire well. There is no rattling/noise at all from them hanging out down there. I may bolt them down one day but not today.



This is the shot of where the stock interior speaker amp and sync module were hiding out.
__________________
CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTANT [TEXAS]

You've been Thread Jacked by SF03!
Current Car: 2010 Kona Blue Shelby GT500 M6
Previous Car:
2010 Black Camaro 2SS/RS M6
Two Back: 2007 Black Shelby GT500 M6
SuperFly03 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2011, 04:25 PM   #9
Sawyer


 
Sawyer's Avatar
 
Drives: '13 5.0
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Maryland
Posts: 2,345
You would be better off getting a JL audio stealthbox. But good write up and pics.

Last edited by Sawyer; 01-15-2011 at 05:03 PM.
Sawyer is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
2010 Chevrolet Camaro makes finalist list for 2010 World Car Design of the Year Tran 5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions 37 02-17-2010 04:22 PM
Edmunds: 2010 Ford Mustang First Look Scotsman General Automotive + Other Cars Discussion 32 11-23-2008 09:55 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:11 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.