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He11bent · 11-18-2012, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by lfbdfn

Thanks again.
Well it sorta chokes on the Sport mode so I'll have to take it into a dealer to see what's up with it.
On Tour mode it runs more like a car with 580 HP, smooth, powerful and very fast!
I'd be at least more satisfied if on Sport mode it even performed better than Tour mode.
I can't imagine what this car would have done if it had all 5 modes!
Well, I think I could imagine it!
But would I have ordered it if it didn't have all 5 modes, knowing that before I bought it?

So how much did they come off the priice tag for the reduced options?

FINALLYSATISFIED · 11-18-2012, 10:08 PM

Is there a new GM brochure that is updated newer then Jan 2012 that states otherwise?

LessSinister · 11-19-2012, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MY1STCAMAR0

Is there a new GM brochure that is updated newer then Jan 2012 that states otherwise?

The Canada 2013, Camaro brochure does not specifically say it's removed than it says it's only on the ZL1 Coupe:

"Standard on ZL1 Coupe, PTM is an advanced system that integrates the Magnetic Ride Control, Launch Control with manual transmission, Traction Control and Active Handling systems to work in harmony for racetack performance and consistency."

niterat · 01-05-2013, 10:01 AM

Maybe I missed it but did anyone answer the original question?

"Any one know what I can do to get the 5 performance modes installed in my 2013 ZL1 vert?"

HDRDTD · 01-05-2013, 10:20 AM

No idea what it would take, but i'd bet that whatever programming/hardware changes needed would result in voiding of the appropriate warranty.

Is possibly losing your warranty worth getting the 5 PTM's? It's all up to you.

joedaddy · 01-15-2013, 03:44 PM

I found in the convertible literature it talks about the PTM modes being on the coupe but (not available on the convertible). Its in there but not very deliberate.

Farmerbob · 03-05-2013, 03:47 PM

There is something rotten in Denmark here - I am a brand new owner of a 2013 ZL1 Vert and just discovered that it does not have PTM eventhough my user manual tells me how to set it - I discovered this when I could not set it and asked the dealer for help - This makes no sense - the PTM actually makes the car LESS dangerous for the novice driver not MORE ! ! ! - I am pursuing GM for a fix so that we Convertible owners have this feature - which in my mind was clearly supposed to come with the car - if they will not provide it then perhaps this matter should be brought to the attention of the Consumer Protection Agency - has anyone gotten a clear answer from Chevy as to why this feature is not in the Vert ? ? ? ?

Bcarr · 03-05-2013, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chevrolet Customer Svc

Congratulations on the new Camaro! Show us pictures when you take delivery!

Brandon
Chevrolet Customer Service

Brandon,
No offense but why didn't you respond to the OP's post? If you work for Chevrolet maybe you can help him.

Farmerbob · 03-06-2013, 07:11 AM

not only did Brandon ignore the customer's question about the PTM - Chevy in general has been ignoring the legitimate right/expectation of the ZL1 Convertible owners to have the PTM system as part of their car just like the coupe

rmyers · 03-07-2013, 07:04 PM

As the owner of a 2013 ZL1 Vert, I must say I do feel sort of cheated for not getting the PTM modes. While this is my wife's car and she would never use those modes, I use them on my coupe all the time. It's part of what makes it a ZL1!

I wish Chevrolet would rethink that decision and update our computers. If the new C7 corvette convertible can get the same modes as the corvette coupe? The same logic should apply to us.

Still love our cars but do feel sort of cheated on the vert.

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niterat · 03-07-2013, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmyers

As the owner of a 2013 ZL1 Vert, I must say I do feel sort of cheated for not getting the PTM modes. While this is my wife's car and she would never use those modes, I use them on my coupe all the time. It's part of what makes it a ZL1!

I wish Chevrolet would rethink that decision and update our computers. If the new C7 corvette convertible can get the same modes as the corvette coupe? The same logic should apply to us.

Still love our cars but do feel sort of cheated on the vert.

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+1x10!

Jer4251 · 03-07-2013, 09:19 PM

same here. Was dissapointed when i discovered this. Fees like a fake ZL1 for more money than a real one

Farmerbob · 03-08-2013, 06:48 AM

There is no question that the vert owners are being cheated and at this point I have not been successful trying to find out from Chevy as to why. At first I was told it was for safety. However, I pointed out that as I understand it the 5 levels of control actually make the car MORE manageable - not LESS (I can't be sure because I have not actually used one yet) - currently with the Competitive Driving Mode - I seem to have all out or something else which has still not been defined either. Perhaps a seperate thread should be set up just to address this issue and if enough owners start to complain loud enough, we will get the total product which we expected and should have. Chevy may actually have a legal issue here. My owners manual says that I have it and even a rep at Chevy customer support said the car has it and the service manager at the dealership would show me how to use it ! ! !

jhnorco · 04-20-2013, 05:39 PM

I was told it would have 4 of the 5 modes. I want it to be a real ZL!... I love my car but feel cheated.

03-07-2013, 07:04 PM	#24
rmyers Drives: Both American Made Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 781	As the owner of a 2013 ZL1 Vert, I must say I do feel sort of cheated for not getting the PTM modes. While this is my wife's car and she would never use those modes, I use them on my coupe all the time. It's part of what makes it a ZL1! I wish Chevrolet would rethink that decision and update our computers. If the new C7 corvette convertible can get the same modes as the corvette coupe? The same logic should apply to us. Still love our cars but do feel sort of cheated on the vert. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 2012 ZL1 #213 M6 Black on Black 2013 ZL1 #2638 Convertible Auto 2010 Chevrolet Suburban 2011 GMC Seirra HD Denali

03-07-2013, 09:19 PM	#26
Jer4251 Camaro Addict Drives: too many Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: 912 Posts: 1,274	same here. Was dissapointed when i discovered this. Fees like a fake ZL1 for more money than a real one __________________ 1990 IROC-Z Vert LS 1996 SS Vert LT4 1992 Z28 Z03 T5 1992 Z28 Z03 L98 2018 Sierra Denali 6.2 1997 Z28 Z4C 1995 Z28

11-18-2012, 10:08 PM	#16
FINALLYSATISFIED Est.1775 Drives: '15 Challenger Hellcat (sold) Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 5,502	Is there a new GM brochure that is updated newer then Jan 2012 that states otherwise?

01-05-2013, 10:01 AM	#18
niterat Drives: ZLI IOM Convertible Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Kennewick, Washington Posts: 155	Maybe I missed it but did anyone answer the original question? "Any one know what I can do to get the 5 performance modes installed in my 2013 ZL1 vert?"

01-05-2013, 10:20 AM	#19
HDRDTD Drives: 2013 Triple Black ZL1 Vert M6 ECF Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Trenton, Michigan Posts: 7,047	No idea what it would take, but i'd bet that whatever programming/hardware changes needed would result in voiding of the appropriate warranty. Is possibly losing your warranty worth getting the 5 PTM's? It's all up to you.

01-15-2013, 03:44 PM	#20
joedaddy Drives: 2013 zl1 camaro convert silver ice Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: hudson wi Posts: 20	I found in the convertible literature it talks about the PTM modes being on the coupe but (not available on the convertible). Its in there but not very deliberate.

03-05-2013, 03:47 PM	#21
Farmerbob Drives: 2013 Zl1 Convertible Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: NJ Posts: 3	There is something rotten in Denmark here - I am a brand new owner of a 2013 ZL1 Vert and just discovered that it does not have PTM eventhough my user manual tells me how to set it - I discovered this when I could not set it and asked the dealer for help - This makes no sense - the PTM actually makes the car LESS dangerous for the novice driver not MORE ! ! ! - I am pursuing GM for a fix so that we Convertible owners have this feature - which in my mind was clearly supposed to come with the car - if they will not provide it then perhaps this matter should be brought to the attention of the Consumer Protection Agency - has anyone gotten a clear answer from Chevy as to why this feature is not in the Vert ? ? ? ?

03-06-2013, 07:11 AM	#23
Farmerbob Drives: 2013 Zl1 Convertible Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: NJ Posts: 3	not only did Brandon ignore the customer's question about the PTM - Chevy in general has been ignoring the legitimate right/expectation of the ZL1 Convertible owners to have the PTM system as part of their car just like the coupe

03-08-2013, 06:48 AM	#27
Farmerbob Drives: 2013 Zl1 Convertible Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: NJ Posts: 3	There is no question that the vert owners are being cheated and at this point I have not been successful trying to find out from Chevy as to why. At first I was told it was for safety. However, I pointed out that as I understand it the 5 levels of control actually make the car MORE manageable - not LESS (I can't be sure because I have not actually used one yet) - currently with the Competitive Driving Mode - I seem to have all out or something else which has still not been defined either. Perhaps a seperate thread should be set up just to address this issue and if enough owners start to complain loud enough, we will get the total product which we expected and should have. Chevy may actually have a legal issue here. My owners manual says that I have it and even a rep at Chevy customer support said the car has it and the service manager at the dealership would show me how to use it ! ! !

04-20-2013, 05:39 PM	#28
jhnorco Drives: 1967 camaro, 2013 ZL1 convertable Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Yorba Linda Posts: 18	I was told it would have 4 of the 5 modes. I want it to be a real ZL!... I love my car but feel cheated.