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Dexman1349 · 06-10-2014, 10:49 AM

Justice Pete is the god-father to Gen 5 suspension. Everything I have done to my car in the suspension can be traced back to his advice.

I have the ZL1 toe rods. You can get a set of take-offs for under $100 in the classified section.

Upgraded sway bars are easy to do and relatively inexpensive. You really can't go wrong with any of the ZL1-spec bars.

I just picked up a set of trailing arms (should be installed within the next week or two).

All of the above can be installed in your garage with some simple tools in just a few hours, but you WILL NEED an alignment afterwards.

Pete, Just a follow-up to your alignment post: How does that effect tire-wear?

acvc · 06-11-2014, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dexman1349

Justice Pete is the god-father to Gen 5 suspension. Everything I have done to my car in the suspension can be traced back to his advice.

I have the ZL1 toe rods. You can get a set of take-offs for under $100 in the classified section.

Upgraded sway bars are easy to do and relatively inexpensive. You really can't go wrong with any of the ZL1-spec bars.

I just picked up a set of trailing arms (should be installed within the next week or two).

All of the above can be installed in your garage with some simple tools in just a few hours, but you WILL NEED an alignment afterwards.

Pete, Just a follow-up to your alignment post: How does that effect tire-wear?

Thanks!

JusticePete · 06-11-2014, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dexman1349

Justice Pete is the god-father to Gen 5 suspension. Everything I have done to my car in the suspension can be traced back to his advice.

I have the ZL1 toe rods. You can get a set of take-offs for under $100 in the classified section.

Upgraded sway bars are easy to do and relatively inexpensive. You really can't go wrong with any of the ZL1-spec bars.

I just picked up a set of trailing arms (should be installed within the next week or two).

All of the above can be installed in your garage with some simple tools in just a few hours, but you WILL NEED an alignment afterwards.

Pete, Just a follow-up to your alignment post: How does that effect tire-wear?

They reduce inside shoulder tire wear. Nothing but win.

Dexman1349 · 06-11-2014, 04:57 PM

I will try that setup in a couple of weeks. I'm installing some new components which will need a rear alignment.

Thanks!

JusticePete · 06-11-2014, 08:57 PM

Let us know how it works out.

Deputy 702 · 06-16-2014, 04:58 AM

Oh man I know who i'm going to ask for help now that I need to upgrade my suspension.

If, it's not too much trouble JusticePete. I do a lot of research, but still it helps to actually have my own questions answered than to read someone's "similaresque" question answered.

JusticePete · 06-16-2014, 07:46 AM

I'll catch up on my PMs today.

subzero05 · 06-19-2014, 05:14 PM

springs and sways of course.. Lots of option out there. Hurst just released a line of springs with sways to follow. might want to look into their stuff

OmniCamaro · 06-19-2014, 08:25 PM

Awesome thread title BTW

acvc · 06-19-2014, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JusticePete

OE rubber is your fuse. You'll blow the tires loose and that protects the driveline. Wheel hop is another story. The easier you blow the tires loose the more prone you will be to wheel hop. Wheel hop breaks things.

The first step in controlling wheel hop is to reduce rear negative camber to get the tire square to the pavement.

Rear Camber 0.00 to -0.50
Rear Toe IN 0.12 per side
Total Rear Toe IN 0.24

Do not underestimate the value and importance of these alignment specs. They are mission critical.

There are parts becoming available from the Z/28 will be be good for reducing wheel hop, the upper rear outer control arm bushing is solid rubber and I believe 400% firmer than the bush in the rest of the Camaro fleet.

ZL1 /1LE toe links are a plus.

Upgrading to the 1LE / ZL1 28mm rear bar is another key element in reducing wheel hop.

Start with the alignment. It will make a significant difference.

Disclaimer, run at a pro-stock prepared drag strip with good DRs or slicks and you'll tear up your drive-line because shafts and other drive-line parts become the fuses.

thanks , sounds exactly right!

JusticePete · 06-26-2014, 12:33 PM

Results???

Dexman1349 · 07-01-2014, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JusticePete

Results???

I'm hoping to get everything installed this weekend (pending family plans) with the alignment on Monday. I should know how things feel by this time next week.

Dexman1349 · 07-06-2014, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dexman1349

I'm hoping to get everything installed this weekend (pending family plans) with the alignment on Monday. I should know how things feel by this time next week.

Installation completed yesterday, still need the alignment (appointment is for Monday afternoon).

Full write up is post #27 in my build thread (see signature)

Rob@WretchedMS · 07-07-2014, 12:13 PM

06-10-2014, 10:49 AM	#15
Dexman1349 2010 2SS/RS M6 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Auckland, NZ Posts: 1,482	Justice Pete is the god-father to Gen 5 suspension. Everything I have done to my car in the suspension can be traced back to his advice. I have the ZL1 toe rods. You can get a set of take-offs for under $100 in the classified section. Upgraded sway bars are easy to do and relatively inexpensive. You really can't go wrong with any of the ZL1-spec bars. I just picked up a set of trailing arms (should be installed within the next week or two). All of the above can be installed in your garage with some simple tools in just a few hours, but you WILL NEED an alignment afterwards. Pete, Just a follow-up to your alignment post: How does that effect tire-wear? __________________ 2/7/2014: 419 hp, 419 tq Cosmetic: ZL1 front w/mailslot, painted stripes, powdercoated SS rims, tow hook, and full chrome delete Suspension: Pfadt subframe bushings, Pfadt rear UCA bushings, Z28 Upper control arms, Spohn trailing arms with BMR trailing arm & differential bushings, ZL1 Toe Rods and springs, Prothane radius arm inserts & steering rack bushing, Pfadt Sport front sway, FE4 conversion w/ DS rear sway, Pfadt strut brace Drivetrain: RMCR tune, CAI intake, Kooks headers, hi-flo cats & exhaust, VMAX TB, ZL1 fuel pump, LSR Tri-Ax shifter Bumblebee Racecar Build

06-11-2014, 04:57 PM	#18
Dexman1349 2010 2SS/RS M6 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Auckland, NZ Posts: 1,482	I will try that setup in a couple of weeks. I'm installing some new components which will need a rear alignment. Thanks! __________________ 2/7/2014: 419 hp, 419 tq Cosmetic: ZL1 front w/mailslot, painted stripes, powdercoated SS rims, tow hook, and full chrome delete Suspension: Pfadt subframe bushings, Pfadt rear UCA bushings, Z28 Upper control arms, Spohn trailing arms with BMR trailing arm & differential bushings, ZL1 Toe Rods and springs, Prothane radius arm inserts & steering rack bushing, Pfadt Sport front sway, FE4 conversion w/ DS rear sway, Pfadt strut brace Drivetrain: RMCR tune, CAI intake, Kooks headers, hi-flo cats & exhaust, VMAX TB, ZL1 fuel pump, LSR Tri-Ax shifter Bumblebee Racecar Build

06-19-2014, 08:25 PM	#23
OmniCamaro US Veteran Drives: 2011 Silver Ice Metallic 2SS/RS A6 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Bossier City, La Posts: 1,407	Awesome thread title BTW __________________ *Dear Lord, give me the strength to carry on despite my Camaro addiction!* JRE iTSX tune, full cat-less Dynatech exhaust, CAI intake, Stillen Slotted/Drilled Rotors, RB braided brake lines, BMR lowering springs, (reserved for definite future MODS)

06-11-2014, 08:57 PM	#19
JusticePete Drives: Camaro Justice Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 20,174	Let us know how it works out.

06-16-2014, 04:58 AM	#20
Deputy 702 Zombie Hunter. . . Drives: 2011 2ss/RS Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: San Antonio, Tx. Posts: 160	Oh man I know who i'm going to ask for help now that I need to upgrade my suspension. If, it's not too much trouble JusticePete. I do a lot of research, but still it helps to actually have my own questions answered than to read someone's "similaresque" question answered.

06-16-2014, 07:46 AM	#21
JusticePete Drives: Camaro Justice Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 20,174	I'll catch up on my PMs today.

06-19-2014, 05:14 PM	#22
subzero05 Account Suspended Drives: 2010 tbd Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: california Posts: 647	springs and sways of course.. Lots of option out there. Hurst just released a line of springs with sways to follow. might want to look into their stuff

06-26-2014, 12:33 PM	#25
JusticePete Drives: Camaro Justice Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 20,174	Results???

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