02-15-2011, 08:49 AM | #43 |
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If it's coming from the front the spring may need to be 'repositioned' also.
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02-15-2011, 09:00 AM | #44 |
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I have a couple alignment questions that hopefully someone here can help with.
After I lowered my car I had it aligned and asked them to loosen the bushing points, drive the car slowly, and then align. They told me that they do that but don't drive they car, the just shake it a little. I don't remember seeing them do this but I wasn't watching the whole time. The car does ride a bit rough sometimes. I think part of it is just being a performace car but I'm not sure that some of the bounce isn't coming from the bushings not being done right. It's to the point that I'm thinking about paying to have an alignment done again but obviously I don't want to waste my money. Can anyone give me a little more specifics on which bolts need to be loosened and if just shaking the car is good enough? I would like to take a copy of whatever is posted to the alignment guy and show them what is suggested so that we will be on the same page. I haven't found a thread out there that gives the specifics on what to do. My other questions is that I'm thinking about putting the OEM 20x9 and 275/40 on all four corners. Do you think it's necessary to align after doing that?
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02-15-2011, 09:11 AM | #45 | |
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Which Bolts to Loosen Front Inner Lower Front Radius Rear Inner Lower Trailing Arm Knuckle Trailing Arm Front Toe Link -- both ends Lower Rear Strut Changing wheels does not require a new alignment. Some companies dirrect you to cut bumpstops. If the instructions say cut and the installer doesn't cut them that can create a poor ride quality. Before we re-engineer or re-build the suspension it would make sense to get the bushes re-timed and the car re-aligned. Once other question. Are you on OE wheels and tires? If not please post the details of your setup. |
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02-15-2011, 09:17 AM | #46 |
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Thanks......this is what I was looking for.
I have the Hotchkis springs and cutting the bumpstops was not one of the requirements. I did not want to do that which is one of the reasons why I did not go with a Mfg that required me to do so. I am on the OEM wheels and tires. At the moment I'm planning on adding some 20x9 rear OEM wheels/tires to the front. Doing that mostly so that I can rotate my tires to get a little more life out of them. I do the occassion burnout (on an empty back road of course) so I think roating will help me out. Plus that should free up my front 20x8 for some drag radials when I go to the drag strip a few times throughout the year.
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02-15-2011, 09:29 AM | #47 |
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You're welcome. Let us know how it turns out.
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02-16-2011, 09:16 PM | #48 |
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My post got skipped above!
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02-21-2011, 09:49 AM | #51 |
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The nut backed off so a thread or two is showing between the nut and the arm
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02-21-2011, 08:34 PM | #52 |
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So could you check out my earlier post and offer ideas on a good allignment?I put a pick of my allignment settings on page 2
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02-22-2011, 07:40 AM | #53 |
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For a good street alignment that corners and luanches well without unusual tire wear here is what I suggest.
Front Camber -1.2 per side Toe bring it to ZERO. It will help with turn in, but will not eat your tires Rear Camber bring it done to as close to -5 degrees as you can get. This will help with tire bite at luanch and dial out a bit of understeer. Your 5th Gen had toe eccentrics when it left the factory. Have the tech set you rear thrust angle to ZERO at something like.12 as showing on you sheet. When the sides are matched the thrust angle will be ZERO |
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Ok Pete.. give me your alignment setup for a person who is looking for street use only and the best tire wear. And will I be able to get this alignment without buying extra parts. Should be receiving your coils soon.
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Camber -.75 per side Toe .17 Rear Camber bring it done to as close to -5 degrees as you can get. This will help with tire bite at launch and dial out a bit of understeer. Your 5th Gen had toe eccentrics when it left the factory. Have the tech set you rear thrust angle to ZERO at something like.12 as showing on you sheet. When the sides are matched the thrust angle will be ZERO |
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