Installed Rear ZL1 Sway Bar - Banjo Bolt hitting on V6 Stock Brakes - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

X-Factor · 03-19-2014, 12:16 PM

Hi Everyone,

I have a 2LT/RS Camaro, with stock V6 brakes. We just installed the rear ZL1/1LE sway bar last night on my ride. But now I'm having problems with the banjo bolt hitting and making my braking not so fun to say the least...

We are currently working on fixing this situation by putting new rear brake pads on. First of all hopefully this will fix it, but if not, does anyone have any suggestions? We did move the brake line a little bit, so i dont have any issues with that.

Thanks so much!

From a Pfadt Thread: The last thing in the world that you want is to make contact with a banjo bolt and either kink or break that brake line.

Sleepy · 03-19-2014, 02:45 PM

Can you post a pic of it hitting along with the thickness of your pads? I am curious how far the pads will have to wear in order for this to happen. You can also change the rotors too if it is worn. That will give you a little more clearance but at that point, you might as well switch to Brembo.

JDP Sales · 03-19-2014, 02:52 PM

I have heard of some doing new pads and it gives you clearance for a while, but the only real fix is to upgrade to the SS calipers.

Best regards,

Tyler
888-308-6007

intensifi · 03-19-2014, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDP Tyler

I have heard of some doing new pads and it gives you clearance for a while, but the only real fix is to upgrade to the SS calipers.

Best regards,

Tyler
888-308-6007

Yes. those V6 calipers were huge.

but doesn't some of the clearance come from the fact that the Brembos are "taller" to accommodate the bigger rotor?

X-Factor · 03-19-2014, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sleepy

Can you post a pic of it hitting along with the thickness of your pads? I am curious how far the pads will have to wear in order for this to happen. You can also change the rotors too if it is worn. That will give you a little more clearance but at that point, you might as well switch to Brembo.

Will do, we will be working on my car later this afternoon, so i will take a picture and post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDP Tyler

I have heard of some doing new pads and it gives you clearance for a while, but the only real fix is to upgrade to the SS calipers.

Best regards,

Tyler
888-308-6007

Thanks Tyler... guess i better start saving up my mod money... lol Thank so much for yalls help. I'll let yall know the outcome tonight.

X-Factor · 03-19-2014, 09:53 PM

Here are my pics, my undercarriage is filthy, was on a rock road in the county over the weekend.

Found my brake pads were at about 50%. And the bolt had been hitting the sway bar, decreasing my braking power forsure. So we changed out the pads, and shaved down the bolt a little. And my car stops like a champ now! Working on saving money for Brembos for the long haul though.....

Brake pads

Rear bolt touching sway bar

Partial shaved off bolt

Final Caliper and bolt clearance

Sent from my New and Improved Phablet!

sycraft · 03-19-2014, 10:07 PM

If you remember I told you that may happen, start saving for Brembo takeoffs.... as soon as the pads wear it will happen again. I will keep my eye out for you and some brembos.

X-Factor · 03-19-2014, 11:06 PM

Thanks sycraft... you were right! But ill need to save for a little while.. lol

Sent from my New and Improved Phablet!

humblebeast07 · 03-20-2014, 02:48 AM

Glad you got it working...how does it feel?

X-Factor · 03-20-2014, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humblebeast07

Glad you got it working...how does it feel?

I only have the rear on right now, this weekend everything should be on... right now it feels like i have more control over my car... so i can't wait till the fronts are on! Autocross baby!

Sleepy · 03-20-2014, 03:19 PM

Thanks for the pictures. Here is an idea. If the brake pads are identical inside and outside, you can replace the outside pads only to push the calipers out and don't replace the half worn inside pads. When the new outside pads is half worn and inside pad is fully worn, you can move the half worn outside pad to the inside and use the remaining pair of new pads on the outside. That way you don't have to keep buying pads.

X-Factor · 03-20-2014, 09:53 PM

Oh no problem at all. Not too many folks had mentioned having problems like this, and I know there are quite a few of us V6's that have this set up with stock brakes. But that sounds like a great idea, thanks!

Sent from my New and Improved Phablet!

ICTsccaCamaro · 03-20-2014, 10:28 PM

How many miles on the brakes? Ours was no where close when we had our v6 brakes on the car

ICTsccaCamaro · 03-20-2014, 10:30 PM

Oh i see the issue you have lowering springs correct? This changes the angle of the rear sway bar causing the interference.

03-19-2014, 12:16 PM	#1
X-Factor Chick Racer Drives: 2017 50th 2SS Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: H-Town Posts: 789	Installed Rear ZL1 Sway Bar - Banjo Bolt hitting on V6 Stock Brakes Hi Everyone, I have a 2LT/RS Camaro, with stock V6 brakes. We just installed the rear ZL1/1LE sway bar last night on my ride. But now I'm having problems with the banjo bolt hitting and making my braking not so fun to say the least... We are currently working on fixing this situation by putting new rear brake pads on. First of all hopefully this will fix it, but if not, does anyone have any suggestions? We did move the brake line a little bit, so i dont have any issues with that. Thanks so much! From a Pfadt Thread: The last thing in the world that you want is to make contact with a banjo bolt and either kink or break that brake line. __________________ www.h-towncamaroclub.com

03-19-2014, 09:53 PM	#6
X-Factor Chick Racer Drives: 2017 50th 2SS Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: H-Town Posts: 789	Here are my pics, my undercarriage is filthy, was on a rock road in the county over the weekend. Found my brake pads were at about 50%. And the bolt had been hitting the sway bar, decreasing my braking power forsure. So we changed out the pads, and shaved down the bolt a little. And my car stops like a champ now! Working on saving money for Brembos for the long haul though..... Brake pads Rear bolt touching sway bar Partial shaved off bolt Final Caliper and bolt clearance Sent from my New and Improved Phablet! __________________ www.h-towncamaroclub.com

03-19-2014, 10:07 PM	#7
sycraft COTW 5/06/2013 Drives: 2017 Corvette Grand Sport-Ho-Vette Join Date: May 2012 Location: Milford, Michigan Posts: 3,201 View My Garage	If you remember I told you that may happen, start saving for Brembo takeoffs.... as soon as the pads wear it will happen again. I will keep my eye out for you and some brembos. __________________ 2017 Grand Sport, Borla X Pipe.....Enough Said

03-19-2014, 11:06 PM	#8
X-Factor Chick Racer Drives: 2017 50th 2SS Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: H-Town Posts: 789	Thanks sycraft... you were right! But ill need to save for a little while.. lol Sent from my New and Improved Phablet! __________________ www.h-towncamaroclub.com

03-20-2014, 02:48 AM	#9
humblebeast07 The Beast Drives: 13 2SS/1LE/RS/NPP/NAV/SUNROOF Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 172	Glad you got it working...how does it feel? __________________ N.F CAM, P&P HEADS, SLP UDP, C.A.I., TRI Y'S, BMR 1" SPRINGS & SWAYS, PFADT TIE RODS & TRAILING ARMS, TUNED BY MATT@FSP 490HP/428TQ

03-19-2014, 02:45 PM	#2
Sleepy Drives: 2011 LS M6 SW Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 88	Can you post a pic of it hitting along with the thickness of your pads? I am curious how far the pads will have to wear in order for this to happen. You can also change the rotors too if it is worn. That will give you a little more clearance but at that point, you might as well switch to Brembo.

03-19-2014, 02:52 PM	#3
JDP Sales Drives: Chevys at the limit Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 9,621	I have heard of some doing new pads and it gives you clearance for a while, but the only real fix is to upgrade to the SS calipers. Best regards, Tyler 888-308-6007

03-20-2014, 03:19 PM	#11
Sleepy Drives: 2011 LS M6 SW Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 88	Thanks for the pictures. Here is an idea. If the brake pads are identical inside and outside, you can replace the outside pads only to push the calipers out and don't replace the half worn inside pads. When the new outside pads is half worn and inside pad is fully worn, you can move the half worn outside pad to the inside and use the remaining pair of new pads on the outside. That way you don't have to keep buying pads.

03-20-2014, 09:53 PM	#12
X-Factor Chick Racer Drives: 2017 50th 2SS Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: H-Town Posts: 789	Oh no problem at all. Not too many folks had mentioned having problems like this, and I know there are quite a few of us V6's that have this set up with stock brakes. But that sounds like a great idea, thanks! Sent from my New and Improved Phablet! __________________ www.h-towncamaroclub.com

03-20-2014, 10:28 PM	#13
ICTsccaCamaro ITCRNRS Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 1,575	How many miles on the brakes? Ours was no where close when we had our v6 brakes on the car __________________ 2018 ZL1 1LE Ordered 6/29/17 Built 11/6/17 Delivered 12/7/17, Summit White, PDR, NAV, https://www.youtube.com/c/tylerpotter SOLD: 2014 Summit White 1LE 2SS/RS, Recaros, NPP, NAV, KONI Yellow's SOLD: 2012 Black 2LT/RS, Fully 1LE swapped, Brembo swap

03-20-2014, 10:30 PM	#14
ICTsccaCamaro ITCRNRS Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 1,575	Oh i see the issue you have lowering springs correct? This changes the angle of the rear sway bar causing the interference. __________________ 2018 ZL1 1LE Ordered 6/29/17 Built 11/6/17 Delivered 12/7/17, Summit White, PDR, NAV, https://www.youtube.com/c/tylerpotter SOLD: 2014 Summit White 1LE 2SS/RS, Recaros, NPP, NAV, KONI Yellow's SOLD: 2012 Black 2LT/RS, Fully 1LE swapped, Brembo swap