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PDXSSCE · 10-13-2019, 11:25 PM

What are everyone's thoughts about glue pulling painless dent repair when the back can't be accessed?

redcoats1976 · 10-14-2019, 09:31 AM

ive seen that done with dents that were going to be painted afterwards but never seen it done with glue before,seems like it would work if you have a good PDR man.

TheFlyingBananaSS · 10-14-2019, 10:54 AM

It won't work when a body line is involved the way yours is. Your only option is a shop repair or leave it alone.

lbls1 · 10-14-2019, 11:02 AM

They may be right; Ive had a similar dent on one of my rough daily drivers and I was told the same thing. Go to an excellent body shop and get their opinion. It might require body work. If you can live with the dent then just keep it as is. Just take notes: Cars that (I) won't tolerate nicks, dings and scratches never go out unsupervised. It will mitigate idiot marks and situations like the OP. Good luck.

CamaroCracka · 10-14-2019, 03:47 PM

Between my wife and my mom, I think my car is safer on the road, except for the bazillion chips behind the tires of course. If the OP has had it four years and only has one ding, he is doing pretty good in my book.

I just had PDR done on my mine last year and I took the cover off a couple months back to find a ding very similar to the OP (nobody knows how it could have happened). It kills me every time I see it and now it sounds like it's unfixable. Oh well, let the person who buys it when I'm dead repaint the car.

KJZ28 · 10-14-2019, 04:01 PM

I bought my Camaro used from a BMW dealer, there were I believe 4-5 dings in various noticeable places. They called a specialist and I watched him take them all out, it was amazing.

silversleeper · 10-14-2019, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PDXSSCE

What are everyone's thoughts about glue pulling painless dent repair when the back can't be accessed?

Why not

PDXSSCE · 10-14-2019, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by silversleeper

Why not

Sorry, why not what?

silversleeper · 10-15-2019, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by PDXSSCE

Sorry, why not what?

You asked what are our thoughts. Why not do this, you see for yourself how it works.
Unless the tech doesn't know what he's doing and burns the paint or something why not do this, it works. I've had PDR done in the past. That's what I suggested to give a try to your dent. I'm not sure the crease will come out perfect but do expect it to fix it good enough for a driver car, on a white color car.

PDXSSCE · 10-15-2019, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by silversleeper

You asked what are our thoughts. Why not do this, you see for yourself how it works.
Unless the tech doesn't know what he's doing and burns the paint or something why not do this, it works. I've had PDR done in the past. That's what I suggested to give a try to your dent. I'm not sure the crease will come out perfect but do expect it to fix it good enough for a driver car, on a white color car.

That's my concern. I've read that due to the quality of the factory paint job and/or the ability of the person doing it, there have been instances in which the clear coat and maybe the paint comes off with the glue when the pull occurs.

CHRISCAM · 10-18-2019, 11:05 PM

I was professionally trained in PDR and did it on and off for a couple of years a while back. That particular location is not completely accessible due to the double-wall metal there. A tech. can make and access hole in the inner wheel housing to get to about the upper half of it, I would estimate.
However, the lower part towards the wheel lip simply can't be reached from inside. To add to that, the dent is going across the body line on the wheel lip. Those dents are pretty difficult to get out completely even when access is good.
With the car being white, you have an advantage. You might need to just bite the bullet and have it pulled from the outside (either glue method or slide pull) and then do traditional fill and spray. You Might be able to get away without a full quarter spray-- just do an open blend into the lower portion of the wheel opening flare area. Again, I wouldn't recommend that particular fix if it was any other color-- all others would require a full quarter spray-- if not a full quarter & door blend.
That said, honestly it's not that bad. I know that YOU know where it is, but I bet the average passer-by wouldn't catch it. Maybe just live with it...

PDXSSCE · 10-18-2019, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CHRISCAM

I was professionally trained in PDR and did it on and off for a couple of years a while back. That particular location is not completely accessible due to the double-wall metal there. A tech. can make and access hole in the inner wheel housing to get to about the upper half of it, I would estimate.
However, the lower part towards the wheel lip simply can't be reached from inside. To add to that, the dent is going across the body line on the wheel lip. Those dents are pretty difficult to get out completely even when access is good.
With the car being white, you have an advantage. You might need to just bite the bullet and have it pulled from the outside (either glue method or slide pull) and then do traditional fill and spray. You Might be able to get away without a full quarter spray-- just do an open blend into the lower portion of the wheel opening flare area. Again, I wouldn't recommend that particular fix if it was any other color-- all others would require a full quarter spray-- if not a full quarter & door blend.
That said, honestly it's not that bad. I know that YOU know where it is, but I bet the average passer-by wouldn't catch it. Maybe just live with it...

Your suggestion is genuinely appreciated. What's a slide pull?
There's a PDR guy claiming to be able to get behind it by removing the taillight and accessing it with a very thin tool. What's your thought?

CamaroFan63 · 10-19-2019, 08:06 AM

Good luck with your dent Pdxssce !

I have a dent in the middle of my passenger rear
wheel opening right in the body line tooo.

I work at an Auto auction and i see Dent Wizard
there almost every day with all their dent tools.

KenKat · 10-19-2019, 10:11 AM

The other thing you could try is to use either a hair dryer or heat gun to heat up the metal then pour cold water over the area and see if it will smooth out a bit with expansion / contraction from heating and cooling. It’s kind of a long shot but I’ve heard people have some success with it.

10-14-2019, 10:54 AM	#17
TheFlyingBananaSS Evil Genius of Chevrolet Drives: 2017 Z06, 2019 XTS, 2013 SS Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: New York Posts: 3,260	It won't work when a body line is involved the way yours is. Your only option is a shop repair or leave it alone. __________________ GPI SS2 VVT cam, ECS Novi 1500 supercharger, Corsa Extreme, Detroit Speed and BMR suspension, Circle D triple disc, Melling oil pump, LS2 chain tensioner, ATI 10% UD, DSX E85 kit, High Energy coils, BTR springs, LS2 Lifter trays, Titanium retainers, hardened push rods, FIC 1000 injectors, ZL1 pump, Mighty Mouse catch can, AEM gauges, Tial BOV, Richmond 3.91 gears, Custom gauge bezels, Speed Engineering headers, Stainless Works HF cats, DSX Aux pump, 710rwhp on E85.

10-14-2019, 11:02 AM	#18
lbls1 Drives: 2002 Camaro SS SOM; 2015 Malibu LTZ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 4,019	They may be right; Ive had a similar dent on one of my rough daily drivers and I was told the same thing. Go to an excellent body shop and get their opinion. It might require body work. If you can live with the dent then just keep it as is. Just take notes: Cars that (I) won't tolerate nicks, dings and scratches never go out unsupervised. It will mitigate idiot marks and situations like the OP. Good luck. __________________ '02 CAMARO SS SOM; 5.7L LS1/FLS6B '08 TBSS AWD Black Granite Metallic '15 Malibu LTZ 2LZ Turbo *'14 CAMARO ZL1 Blue Ray Metallic*

10-14-2019, 03:47 PM	#19
CamaroCracka Drives: 2010 Turbo LS3 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Palm Bay, FL Posts: 2,728	Between my wife and my mom, I think my car is safer on the road, except for the bazillion chips behind the tires of course. If the OP has had it four years and only has one ding, he is doing pretty good in my book. I just had PDR done on my mine last year and I took the cover off a couple months back to find a ding very similar to the OP (nobody knows how it could have happened). It kills me every time I see it and now it sounds like it's unfixable. Oh well, let the person who buys it when I'm dead repaint the car. __________________ 2010 SS - On3 kit with downpipe cutout, CTR 78/80, CompCam 239/251 620/632 122+4, E85, Z28 suspension and ZL1 diff with Outlaw axles. Gen6 ZL1/1LE brakes. 2011 Vert - 416/w 230/236 .612/.602 115lsa, 1LE suspension w/32mm rear bar. Z28 diff. ZL1 brakes.

10-14-2019, 04:01 PM	#20
KJZ28 Drives: 2018 Buick Regal TourX Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: North of NYC Posts: 546 View My Garage	I bought my Camaro used from a BMW dealer, there were I believe 4-5 dings in various noticeable places. They called a specialist and I watched him take them all out, it was amazing. __________________ SOLD: 2010 2SS/RS L99-A6 K&N CAI, Speed Engineering Long Tube Headers, Stainless Works hi-flow cats, Flowmaster American Thunder Cat-back. Tuned by Corvettes of Westchester. 1/LE rear suspension conversion, Bilstein B6 Stuts/shocks.

10-19-2019, 08:06 AM	#27
CamaroFan63 Sullie63 Drives: '15 1LT Summit White Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Gateway to the West Posts: 526	Good luck with your dent Pdxssce ! I have a dent in the middle of my passenger rear wheel opening right in the body line tooo. I work at an Auto auction and i see Dent Wizard there almost every day with all their dent tools. __________________ Casper, Ghost of Camaro's past Black '86 Silver '85, VR '13 Auto/19's/Boston Acoustic speakers/Spare Tire Born 10/28/14 Adopted 04/09/18 with 17,491.xx miles Oracle clear side markers / LLmar tint sides and rear. Strut bar / Husky Floor liners Member of SICC. Southern Illinois Camaro Club

10-14-2019, 09:31 AM	#16
redcoats1976 Drives: LT W/2LT,blue metallic Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: central florida Posts: 4,914	ive seen that done with dents that were going to be painted afterwards but never seen it done with glue before,seems like it would work if you have a good PDR man.

10-18-2019, 11:05 PM	#25
CHRISCAM Drives: 2013 Summit White 2SS/1LE Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: SoCal Posts: 118	I was professionally trained in PDR and did it on and off for a couple of years a while back. That particular location is not completely accessible due to the double-wall metal there. A tech. can make and access hole in the inner wheel housing to get to about the upper half of it, I would estimate. However, the lower part towards the wheel lip simply can't be reached from inside. To add to that, the dent is going across the body line on the wheel lip. Those dents are pretty difficult to get out completely even when access is good. With the car being white, you have an advantage. You might need to just bite the bullet and have it pulled from the outside (either glue method or slide pull) and then do traditional fill and spray. You Might be able to get away without a full quarter spray-- just do an open blend into the lower portion of the wheel opening flare area. Again, I wouldn't recommend that particular fix if it was any other color-- all others would require a full quarter spray-- if not a full quarter & door blend. That said, honestly it's not that bad. I know that YOU know where it is, but I bet the average passer-by wouldn't catch it. Maybe just live with it...

10-19-2019, 10:11 AM	#28
KenKat Drives: 2014 2LT RS Summit White Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 622	The other thing you could try is to use either a hair dryer or heat gun to heat up the metal then pour cold water over the area and see if it will smooth out a bit with expansion / contraction from heating and cooling. It’s kind of a long shot but I’ve heard people have some success with it.