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PQ · 08-29-2009, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

have you ever stepped inside a ZR1?

I have

In three weeks I will. Atlanta.

When did you?

Dakota Kid · 08-29-2009, 02:24 PM

I just tossed my 25 year old son the keys...he had driven the car before the fuse pull....he noticed the difference right away. He broke out in a big grin and said "now THIS is more like it".

I am loving it now.

baby02 · 08-29-2009, 03:59 PM

Removed my fuses for 5 hours, when replaced I felt a big difference in take off and at cruising speeds. The car is no longer sluggish and no hassitation(messed that word up didn't I, oh well ya'll get the point

Supermans · 08-29-2009, 04:04 PM

Have any of you guys who did the fuse pull a few weeks ago notice a change or slowing down as the computer adapts to your driving once more?? According to Fbodfather, the computer adapts to not only fuel quality but your everyday driving habits. Does this mean if you start driving slow around town that it will revert back slowly to what it was...and then have trouble becoming faster again needing another fuse pull??

quickdraw · 08-29-2009, 04:27 PM

ATTENTION: Opec hit squad ordered to take out the OP and accomplices of this thread. Reason: thousands of Camaros now getting 25% better fuel milage, ipso facto...profits are going down....again.

25'd the car overnight. Started this morning and rough idle as usual for about 5 seconds then smoothed out. Reset my MPG meter reading 16.7 (normal 16-17.5). Drove around today 100ish miles and now the reading is 21.6mpg. The car runs, idles and shifts up and down much smoother. It also auto-shifts much better, holds the shifts longer. I did a few pulls in different modes, same little wheel spin off of the line but today isn't really a good day to judge power as it is around 110*.

Darin Morgan · 08-29-2009, 05:17 PM

Just drove mine off the lot. Has 21 miles on it. The dealer REFUSED to fill it with 93 octane. I told him that it was no big deal just leave what fuel is in it from the factory and I will fill it at a station across the street. I had about 30 miles on it when I laid into it with all it had and man oh man what a fricken pooch! I kept doing hard acceleration runs then shift neutral it when it hit 90mph. Its got 90miles on it and you can feel it coming around by the minute. It would not even begin to bark the rear tire at 30-40-50miles and even BOGGED the engine from a dead start. The torque management is in "stupid high" mod right now and wont let it shift very firm at all. I hope that gets better than what it is or I will have to do something about it. At about 60miles of (all I can throw at it) acceleration runs to 90mph she started coming into some power. It will spin the tires up to second and the ass end will shimmy around a little now. You can latterly feel it pulling better and better after each acceleration run. Its still sluggish compared to what I know it should do. It feels like it has no more than about 320hp under the hood right now. Its got a ways to go. I will do fuse pull in a couple days and tell you guys how it goes.

Bonemaro · 08-29-2009, 06:04 PM

After a few days of runs i am certain the fuse pull worked, and it wasn't just psychological. The shifts are smoother, and the increase in acceleration is definitely there. She (1SS) idles under 1,000 rpm however; roughly 800 if i were to guess. Is that normal or too low. It's doesn't shake rattle and roll with the low idle, am just concerned that if it's about right where it should be, or no.

Mod4SS · 08-29-2009, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonemaro

After a few days of runs i am certain the fuse pull worked, and it wasn't just psychological. The shifts are smoother, and the increase in acceleration is definitely there. She (1SS) idles under 1,000 rpm however; roughly 800 if i were to guess. Is that normal or too low. It's doesn't shake rattle and roll with the low idle, am just concerned that if it's about right where it should be, or no.

You're fine...

MikeW · 08-29-2009, 06:23 PM

My car has 650 miles on it and I was able to spin/screech the tires from a standstill by stepping on it but not flooring it. That was with TC on and before the fuse pull. Haven't really jumped all over it yet.
I pulled the fuses last night and put them in this morning. Noticed a little rougher idle than usual but she settled down after a minute or so.
What I noticed is that the shifting was better and acceleration is better. I didn't do a timed run so it may just be a placebo effect.
I'll do one tomorrow and see where I'm at.

edog · 08-29-2009, 06:30 PM

I pulled mine on Friday. I noticed the car did not hesitate when hitting the gas. Also, the car screeched the tires each time no matter what safety controls were on.

I hope this is a permanent fix and does not go back to the first way. My dealer put in premium so I am not sure my sluggishness was due to this. Maybe low octane from Oshawa?

Bonemaro · 08-29-2009, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moderator4SS

You're fine...

Thank you

ssmike · 08-29-2009, 08:32 PM

So, I brought my LS-3 in to the dealer on Monday to have them check the rough idle, hurky jerky hesitations at steady low speeds when cold ( all the time with CAI installed) and overall less than stellar performance, along with a window that won't stay up. They could not duplicate the performance and herky jerkies but fixed the window. When I heard about the 5/20 fuse fix I told the service mgr about it. He basically wrote it off as internet hype and refused to look into it. I requested that the technician check the ECM to see what octane spark table it was running on and he just blew me off. I picked up the car and performed the 5/20 fuse pull myself and guess what....the herky jerkies are gone even with the OTR CAI installed, it idles better, and from the short run with the car this evening the performance seems better! I didn't have much time to play with it so tomorrow I'll put it through the paces. I never really thought the performance was less than it should be until now, it seems more responsive! I'll know more tomorrow.

ravensjeff · 08-30-2009, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darin Morgan

Just drove mine off the lot. Has 21 miles on it. The dealer REFUSED to fill it with 93 octane. .

Dealer makes thousands of dollars on you and cant spring an extra 10 bucks on high test that your car calls for?? I would have had to let em have it-the cheap bitches.

WHAT GAS IS OSHAWA USING????

2Fast4U2010 · 08-30-2009, 11:07 AM

Holly shit!!! the beast is alive. I Pulled my fuzes last night let the car sit over night. Placed back in and took her for a quick ride. WOW! what a big change in get up and go. It really works, that's all I have to say.

A note to you guys waiting your cars, do not let the dealer put regular unleaded gas in the car, it need high octane. The ECM aparently reads the low octane.

08-29-2009, 02:24 PM	#282
Dakota Kid Drives: 2010 2SS/RJT/L99 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 1,151	I just tossed my 25 year old son the keys...he had driven the car before the fuse pull....he noticed the difference right away. He broke out in a big grin and said "now THIS is more like it". I am loving it now. __________________ 2SS/RJT/L99

08-29-2009, 04:04 PM	#284
Supermans Camaro & Stang Enthusiast Drives: 2011 Mustang 5.0 in Kona Blue Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 4,752 View My Garage	Have any of you guys who did the fuse pull a few weeks ago notice a change or slowing down as the computer adapts to your driving once more?? According to Fbodfather, the computer adapts to not only fuel quality but your everyday driving habits. Does this mean if you start driving slow around town that it will revert back slowly to what it was...and then have trouble becoming faster again needing another fuse pull?? __________________ Bought my Camaro from Eric Hall(817) 421-7266

08-29-2009, 04:27 PM	#285
quickdraw Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 262	ATTENTION: Opec hit squad ordered to take out the OP and accomplices of this thread. Reason: thousands of Camaros now getting 25% better fuel milage, ipso facto...profits are going down....again. 25'd the car overnight. Started this morning and rough idle as usual for about 5 seconds then smoothed out. Reset my MPG meter reading 16.7 (normal 16-17.5). Drove around today 100ish miles and now the reading is 21.6mpg. The car runs, idles and shifts up and down much smoother. It also auto-shifts much better, holds the shifts longer. I did a few pulls in different modes, same little wheel spin off of the line but today isn't really a good day to judge power as it is around 110*. __________________ 2010 Yellow 2SS/RS, L99 Auto, Grey Leather, Polished 20's

08-29-2009, 05:17 PM	#286
Darin Morgan Reher Morrison Racing Drives: Inferno Orange SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Arlington TEXAS Posts: 249	Just drove mine off the lot. Has 21 miles on it. The dealer REFUSED to fill it with 93 octane. I told him that it was no big deal just leave what fuel is in it from the factory and I will fill it at a station across the street. I had about 30 miles on it when I laid into it with all it had and man oh man what a fricken pooch! I kept doing hard acceleration runs then shift neutral it when it hit 90mph. Its got 90miles on it and you can feel it coming around by the minute. It would not even begin to bark the rear tire at 30-40-50miles and even BOGGED the engine from a dead start. The torque management is in "stupid high" mod right now and wont let it shift very firm at all. I hope that gets better than what it is or I will have to do something about it. At about 60miles of (all I can throw at it) acceleration runs to 90mph she started coming into some power. It will spin the tires up to second and the ass end will shimmy around a little now. You can latterly feel it pulling better and better after each acceleration run. Its still sluggish compared to what I know it should do. It feels like it has no more than about 320hp under the hood right now. Its got a ways to go. I will do fuse pull in a couple days and tell you guys how it goes. __________________ 2010 Camaro SS/RS IOM, 475rwhp 415ft/lbs Cam-232°/245° .612 .612 113LSA. Precision 3500 stall, New Era CAI. Reher Morrison Heads, Manifold and TB. Ferrea H-stems, dual springs, Ti-retainers. American Racing long tubes-Xpipe, High flow CATs, "S"type Borla's. 160F Thermo. VVT ACTIVE! Thanks to New Era Performance! Darin Morgan -Induction R&D-EFI calibration Reher-Morrison Racing Engines http://www.rehermorrison.com/rmSale3.htm Phone 817-467-7171 cell 682-559-0321 Last edited by Darin Morgan; 08-29-2009 at 07:57 PM.

08-29-2009, 06:30 PM	#290
edog Drives: 2010 2SS/RS IOM Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: F'BURG VA Posts: 3,828 View My Garage	I pulled mine on Friday. I noticed the car did not hesitate when hitting the gas. Also, the car screeched the tires each time no matter what safety controls were on. I hope this is a permanent fix and does not go back to the first way. My dealer put in premium so I am not sure my sluggishness was due to this. Maybe low octane from Oshawa? __________________ Update...Build in process, Forged Rods, Pistons and rings, Johnson Lifters, NOVI1500 ECS SC, 13lb boost or more, LS3 Conversion 114/228/241 COMP CAM, Frostbite 4 row Aluminum radiator, 6L80 built, Circle D 6L80 PRO SERIES MULTI 258MM 2D, Stock 3.45 gears, 1-7/8 American Racing Headers w/HF cat, X-Pipe, Lingenfelter dual fuel pump, E-85 flex sensor, ATI super damper pulley, Ported TB, 160 therm, Trans cooler, Pedder's sways/end links/sub frame bushings, BMR trailing arms & toe rods, Coil overs. HP/TQ pending

08-29-2009, 03:59 PM	#283
baby02 EYE CANDY Drives: 1SS RS ABM Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Port St Lucie, fl Posts: 673 View My Garage	Removed my fuses for 5 hours, when replaced I felt a big difference in take off and at cruising speeds. The car is no longer sluggish and no hassitation(messed that word up didn't I, oh well ya'll get the point

08-29-2009, 06:04 PM	#287
Bonemaro Drives: 2010 RJT 1SS M6 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Ann Arbor, Mi. Posts: 1,692 View My Garage	After a few days of runs i am certain the fuse pull worked, and it wasn't just psychological. The shifts are smoother, and the increase in acceleration is definitely there. She (1SS) idles under 1,000 rpm however; roughly 800 if i were to guess. Is that normal or too low. It's doesn't shake rattle and roll with the low idle, am just concerned that if it's about right where it should be, or no.

08-29-2009, 06:23 PM	#289
MikeW Bowtie Brotherhood Drives: 04 Blazer ZR2, 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago, IL USA Posts: 96	My car has 650 miles on it and I was able to spin/screech the tires from a standstill by stepping on it but not flooring it. That was with TC on and before the fuse pull. Haven't really jumped all over it yet. I pulled the fuses last night and put them in this morning. Noticed a little rougher idle than usual but she settled down after a minute or so. What I noticed is that the shifting was better and acceleration is better. I didn't do a timed run so it may just be a placebo effect. I'll do one tomorrow and see where I'm at.

08-29-2009, 08:32 PM	#292
ssmike BL1ZZRD Drives: '16 Camaro 2SS, '20 Equinox Redline Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 7,840	So, I brought my LS-3 in to the dealer on Monday to have them check the rough idle, hurky jerky hesitations at steady low speeds when cold ( all the time with CAI installed) and overall less than stellar performance, along with a window that won't stay up. They could not duplicate the performance and herky jerkies but fixed the window. When I heard about the 5/20 fuse fix I told the service mgr about it. He basically wrote it off as internet hype and refused to look into it. I requested that the technician check the ECM to see what octane spark table it was running on and he just blew me off. I picked up the car and performed the 5/20 fuse pull myself and guess what....the herky jerkies are gone even with the OTR CAI installed, it idles better, and from the short run with the car this evening the performance seems better! I didn't have much time to play with it so tomorrow I'll put it through the paces. I never really thought the performance was less than it should be until now, it seems more responsive! I'll know more tomorrow.

08-30-2009, 11:07 AM	#294
2Fast4U2010 Drives: Camaro 2SS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Brunswick, GA Posts: 179 View My Garage	Holly shit!!! the beast is alive. I Pulled my fuzes last night let the car sit over night. Placed back in and took her for a quick ride. WOW! what a big change in get up and go. It really works, that's all I have to say. A note to you guys waiting your cars, do not let the dealer put regular unleaded gas in the car, it need high octane. The ECM aparently reads the low octane.

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