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2010_camaro · 07-03-2015, 08:24 PM

So my tuner is out of town for the holiday. I have my meth kit collecting dust on my floor. Can I put it on and still run my car with out advertise side effects? Im currently supercharged and cammed. I know I won't get full potential until tuned but will I see any gains with running a small jet untill I can get it tuned?

ttshovel · 07-03-2015, 08:54 PM

Why not just have it all hooked up and not use it until your tuner can tune for it?

2010_camaro · 07-03-2015, 10:21 PM

Because I have ZERO patient's and a few races coming up.

ttshovel · 07-04-2015, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 2010_camaro

Because I have ZERO patient's and a few races coming up.

I would advise you didn't but that's just me... maybe others will have input.

2010_camaro · 07-04-2015, 01:54 AM

Well from what I gather you can use it on cars with out being tuned for it and still see gains. It's a snow performance kit..

Batmanntexas · 07-04-2015, 02:57 AM

Are you utilizing the meth kit to add additional fuel for an increase in boost, or are you using it for the cooling effect? If you are using it as a fuel adder, then you definitely need to be tuned for it.

I run the Alky Control kit at 100% Meth, utilizing their smallest nozzle. I use it solely for the octane boost, as a safety. I am not tuned for it. On the dyno, it added an additional 20RWHP.

2010_camaro · 07-04-2015, 07:43 AM

Using it for cooling. I have a LSA blower and I figured it has to help cool it down. I'll be 50/50 mix boost juice.

2010_camaro · 07-05-2015, 09:50 PM

Anyone else have any input?

scv_guy · 07-05-2015, 10:17 PM

The only downside to installing the kit without tuning for it is the car will running a bit rich during WOT.

2010_camaro · 07-06-2015, 01:02 AM

That's fine. I'm a little lean on top end anyways. I'm still on stock ss pump with no BAP.

1KillerSS · 07-06-2015, 04:08 PM

As others have said, the answer is no, its not necessary, the only problem with not tuning it, is all the power you leave on the table. You will run way rich at WOT, like i'm guessing 9's but that's just a guess.You may have some drivability issues in transition to WOT.

BadAquaBluSS · 07-08-2015, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 1KillerSS

As others have said, the answer is no, its not necessary, the only problem with not tuning it, is all the power you leave on the table. You will run way rich at WOT, like i'm guessing 9's but that's just a guess.You may have some drivability issues in transition to WOT.

I have the AEM methanol kit and set it to come on at 3psi and have it all in by 6psi, I did go rich a little before tuning (high 10's low 11's afr) but it will definitely cool you air charge, just as 1KillerSS, it safe but you'll leave 20-30 hp on the table.

2010_camaro · 07-08-2015, 12:42 PM

Well at WOT I'm lean. My fuel pump is maxed out and my tuner can't get me in for another 3 weeks. I see AFRs around 12.3 ish near redline.

BadAquaBluSS · 07-08-2015, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 2010_camaro

Well at WOT I'm lean. My fuel pump is maxed out and my tuner can't get me in for another 3 weeks. I see AFRs around 12.3 ish near redline.

In that case you should try it you might be closer than you think, nothing to it but to do it, I installed all the performance parts on my car only thing I didn't do was the actual tuning, you should be able to install the meth kit if you are at least decent with wiring, like a car stereo or something

07-03-2015, 08:24 PM	#1
2010_camaro Drives: 2014 Camaro SS Join Date: May 2011 Location: Florence, KY Posts: 2,238 View My Garage	Water meth question So my tuner is out of town for the holiday. I have my meth kit collecting dust on my floor. Can I put it on and still run my car with out advertise side effects? Im currently supercharged and cammed. I know I won't get full potential until tuned but will I see any gains with running a small jet untill I can get it tuned? __________________ MODS 6.0 forged iron block, TH400, B&M shifter, DSS axles & driveshaft, Viking / BMR suspension, Full custom fuel system with cell, Twin 76mm teriyaki tornados on 24lbs. https://www.instagram.com/whoopa_ss/

07-03-2015, 08:54 PM	#2
ttshovel Drives: 12 camaro ss, 72 chevelle, 91camaro Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: findlay,oh Posts: 2,069	Why not just have it all hooked up and not use it until your tuner can tune for it? __________________ 12 camaro ss 427lsx, th400, f310 heads, crower shaft mounts, gpi specd solid roller, shearerfab 2k hp a/w, twin bullseye 88mm turbos, hughes pro ssx bolt together converter, holley dominator, 8.50 cert, backhalf, Ford 9", 33x17x16 tires, c16 fuel

07-03-2015, 10:21 PM	#3
2010_camaro Drives: 2014 Camaro SS Join Date: May 2011 Location: Florence, KY Posts: 2,238 View My Garage	Because I have ZERO patient's and a few races coming up. __________________ MODS 6.0 forged iron block, TH400, B&M shifter, DSS axles & driveshaft, Viking / BMR suspension, Full custom fuel system with cell, Twin 76mm teriyaki tornados on 24lbs. https://www.instagram.com/whoopa_ss/

07-04-2015, 01:54 AM	#5
2010_camaro Drives: 2014 Camaro SS Join Date: May 2011 Location: Florence, KY Posts: 2,238 View My Garage	Well from what I gather you can use it on cars with out being tuned for it and still see gains. It's a snow performance kit.. __________________ MODS 6.0 forged iron block, TH400, B&M shifter, DSS axles & driveshaft, Viking / BMR suspension, Full custom fuel system with cell, Twin 76mm teriyaki tornados on 24lbs. https://www.instagram.com/whoopa_ss/

07-04-2015, 02:57 AM	#6
Batmanntexas Drives: 2012 Camaro SS (2SS) Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Stafford, VA Posts: 1,374 View My Garage	Are you utilizing the meth kit to add additional fuel for an increase in boost, or are you using it for the cooling effect? If you are using it as a fuel adder, then you definitely need to be tuned for it. I run the Alky Control kit at 100% Meth, utilizing their smallest nozzle. I use it solely for the octane boost, as a safety. I am not tuned for it. On the dyno, it added an additional 20RWHP. __________________ 745RWHP/634RWTQ on 93 @ 10psi 806/676 on E85 @ 10psi COTW 9/8/14

07-04-2015, 07:43 AM	#7
2010_camaro Drives: 2014 Camaro SS Join Date: May 2011 Location: Florence, KY Posts: 2,238 View My Garage	Using it for cooling. I have a LSA blower and I figured it has to help cool it down. I'll be 50/50 mix boost juice. __________________ MODS 6.0 forged iron block, TH400, B&M shifter, DSS axles & driveshaft, Viking / BMR suspension, Full custom fuel system with cell, Twin 76mm teriyaki tornados on 24lbs. https://www.instagram.com/whoopa_ss/

07-05-2015, 09:50 PM	#8
2010_camaro Drives: 2014 Camaro SS Join Date: May 2011 Location: Florence, KY Posts: 2,238 View My Garage	Anyone else have any input? __________________ MODS 6.0 forged iron block, TH400, B&M shifter, DSS axles & driveshaft, Viking / BMR suspension, Full custom fuel system with cell, Twin 76mm teriyaki tornados on 24lbs. https://www.instagram.com/whoopa_ss/

07-05-2015, 10:17 PM	#9
scv_guy Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Valencia Posts: 1,305	The only downside to installing the kit without tuning for it is the car will running a bit rich during WOT.

07-06-2015, 01:02 AM	#10
2010_camaro Drives: 2014 Camaro SS Join Date: May 2011 Location: Florence, KY Posts: 2,238 View My Garage	That's fine. I'm a little lean on top end anyways. I'm still on stock ss pump with no BAP. __________________ MODS 6.0 forged iron block, TH400, B&M shifter, DSS axles & driveshaft, Viking / BMR suspension, Full custom fuel system with cell, Twin 76mm teriyaki tornados on 24lbs. https://www.instagram.com/whoopa_ss/

07-06-2015, 04:08 PM	#11
1KillerSS Too much is never enough! Drives: AGP TT SS [COTW] 4/20/15 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 4,149 View My Garage	As others have said, the answer is no, its not necessary, the only problem with not tuning it, is all the power you leave on the table. You will run way rich at WOT, like i'm guessing 9's but that's just a guess.You may have some drivability issues in transition to WOT. __________________ AGP TT kit, 54/57 Forged rotating assembly, Custom grind cam... Dual nozzle meth, ID850's, Livernois dual fuel pumps, ECS BAP, 25% UDP, 3 inch Magnaflow catback with X pipe, Mantic 9000 clutch, DSS 1000hp axles, DSS aluminum driveshaft, ZL1 rear end, solid subframe bushings, HE differential offset bushings, BMR Trailing arm, BMR toe rods, Lingenfelter LNC-2000,SJM Line Lock. 747 whp 714wtq *Build thread* http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...55#post8107855

07-08-2015, 12:42 PM	#13
2010_camaro Drives: 2014 Camaro SS Join Date: May 2011 Location: Florence, KY Posts: 2,238 View My Garage	Well at WOT I'm lean. My fuel pump is maxed out and my tuner can't get me in for another 3 weeks. I see AFRs around 12.3 ish near redline. __________________ MODS 6.0 forged iron block, TH400, B&M shifter, DSS axles & driveshaft, Viking / BMR suspension, Full custom fuel system with cell, Twin 76mm teriyaki tornados on 24lbs. https://www.instagram.com/whoopa_ss/