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Frid · 08-18-2012, 02:41 PM

Wow this was close to my home. As a matter of fact the hospital they found the ZL1 at is like 15min away lol.

My Caroline · 08-18-2012, 02:53 PM

That's crazy.

Shipping over seas sounds like a pretty good prediction. I was in a Nissan dealership not long ago and there was a new GT-R being prepped. The dealer told me the guy buys them, then ships them to Germany, Finland, anywhere somebody will buy them.

The only difference being that one guy does it legitimately, these guys do it illegally.

Parabolica · 08-18-2012, 02:58 PM

It cracks me up so many of you think this had to be an inside job. These people are PROS! Nothing on the car is proprietary or can't be figured out. In some cases professional car thieves bring a modified ecu/bcu for the car their going to steal. That's right, they get in and replace the module(s) with one that bypasses all the security measures.

Is it a real mystery how to disable OnStar??? I could permanently disable mine tomorrow if I wanted to. I'm willing to bet these guys just jammed the signal... Again, these are pro's who'll probably make 50K or 60K per car. Do you really think they won't invest a few thousand dollars in satellite jammers/ transponder programmers/ ecu's/bcu's or whatever else they need to get the job done?

Wanna know where the dealer keeps the keys? Go into the dealer and ask to test drive one of the cars and watch where he goes to get the key. Pretty simple really...

Auto security has gone high tech, but there's nothing that can't be figured out and worked around. It's why the manufacturers are always having to come with newer and more sophisticated methods, which only works until someone figures a way around it. You'd be surprised how quickly these guys can get around the most sophisticate security measures these days. A system is only as good as the weakest link, and there's always a weak link...

Amateurs don't try and make off with 5 cars at once from a dealer. This was a professional team, probably connected with organized crime.

Would you think it was an inside job if only 1 car was stolen? This lot had 5, so they brought enough guys to get all 5 at the same time. They probably could have all pulled out together...

There's absolutely nothing here that would require a guy on the inside; nothing... Does that mean they didn't have someone on the inside? Of course not; just that it wouldn't require someone on the inside...

Parabolica · 08-18-2012, 02:59 PM

DP

tonyko1 · 08-18-2012, 03:29 PM

Then why was the ZL1 abandoned at a hospital parking lot then? If the perps wanted to draw attention away with a cold trail, could have been a lesser car than the ZL1. And how did the bumper get damaged? Wonder if the person driving the car needed medical services for some reason?.....

Mutant Racer · 08-18-2012, 03:34 PM

I'm betting Vin Diesel and his gang of Fast and Fruity 4 cylinder Racer X wannabees finally decided to trade up.

First thing they probably did was hang a small garden gnome off the back of the rear bumper.

SSGUNNER · 08-18-2012, 04:31 PM

Wow.

Renegade · 08-18-2012, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Eel125

Sounds like an inside job to me

Definately..they'll probably sell if for half price.

mikeyg36 · 08-18-2012, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Iroczlover

In one of the other news articals It stated that there was no alarms or video at the dealership.

I think GM should pull their name from the dealership. HELL NO ALARMS NO Video you cant protect our cars you cant sell them.

GM probably doesn't care. The dealer is the one losing the money...

PYROLYSIS · 08-18-2012, 04:48 PM

It would have been very easy for these guys to sneak out of the parking lot without being noticed. The dealership is on a very busy stretch of road but theres a rarely used back road that connects to the lot. It's pretty much only used by the car lots in that area. That road leads to many different exits. They really should have these lots fenced off. It would slow them down a little.

PoorMansCamaro · 08-18-2012, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyg36

GM probably doesn't care. The dealer is the one losing the money...

hopefully the dealer has some sort of theft insurance...

SoooFlyyy · 08-18-2012, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by aSSian

hopefully the dealer has some sort of theft insurance...

They should, they're a pretty big dealer. I actually went there to look for my Camaro! Had 15+ camaros on the lot then.

upflying · 08-18-2012, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SoooFlyyy

They should, they're a pretty big dealer. I actually went there to look for my Camaro! Had 15+ camaros on the lot then.

Shows 10 on the website, 7 SS and 3 LT's. No ZL1 though.
http://www.crewschevrolet.com/new-in...cetbrowse=true

dorfmac · 08-18-2012, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bb040

can you say inside job

Come on, this isn't 9/11

08-18-2012, 02:41 PM	#29
Frid Drives: '11 Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 3,483	Wow this was close to my home. As a matter of fact the hospital they found the ZL1 at is like 15min away lol. __________________

08-18-2012, 02:53 PM	#30
My Caroline Drives: Black 2011 Camaro LS Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 1,694	That's crazy. Shipping over seas sounds like a pretty good prediction. I was in a Nissan dealership not long ago and there was a new GT-R being prepped. The dealer told me the guy buys them, then ships them to Germany, Finland, anywhere somebody will buy them. The only difference being that one guy does it legitimately, these guys do it illegally. __________________ White Fender Hashes from Big Worm Graphix with Custom White Bowties GM Factory Remote Start and Factory Key Fob SS Fascia, Factory RS HIDs, Plasma P13W fog lights Non-RS to RS and fog light harness by Gen5DIY LED Interior, Trunk, and Licence Plate lights in white ZL1 Spoiler with Gen5DIY harness Factory NPP cat back Blacked out tail light bezels Factory 20 inch wheels wrapped in Nitto Motivos Lowered 1.25inch on Eibach Pro springs

08-18-2012, 04:31 PM	#35
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08-18-2012, 04:48 PM	#38
PYROLYSIS Remember the Charleston 9 Drives: 2004 KME PREDATOR, 2014 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Summerv1LE SC Posts: 5,381 View My Garage	It would have been very easy for these guys to sneak out of the parking lot without being noticed. The dealership is on a very busy stretch of road but theres a rarely used back road that connects to the lot. It's pretty much only used by the car lots in that area. That road leads to many different exits. They really should have these lots fenced off. It would slow them down a little. __________________ BRING BACK THE B4C POLICE CAMARO! 2002 V-6 5 speed rally red (current camaro) Also driven:1992 Z-28 305 auto Red w/ black stripes (anniversary), 2001 V-6 auto light pewter metallic,1991 RS V-6 auto Black

08-18-2012, 02:58 PM	#31
Parabolica Account Suspended Drives: 2011 2SS Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: CA. Posts: 309	It cracks me up so many of you think this had to be an inside job. These people are PROS! Nothing on the car is proprietary or can't be figured out. In some cases professional car thieves bring a modified ecu/bcu for the car their going to steal. That's right, they get in and replace the module(s) with one that bypasses all the security measures. Is it a real mystery how to disable OnStar??? I could permanently disable mine tomorrow if I wanted to. I'm willing to bet these guys just jammed the signal... Again, these are pro's who'll probably make 50K or 60K per car. Do you really think they won't invest a few thousand dollars in satellite jammers/ transponder programmers/ ecu's/bcu's or whatever else they need to get the job done? Wanna know where the dealer keeps the keys? Go into the dealer and ask to test drive one of the cars and watch where he goes to get the key. Pretty simple really... Auto security has gone high tech, but there's nothing that can't be figured out and worked around. It's why the manufacturers are always having to come with newer and more sophisticated methods, which only works until someone figures a way around it. You'd be surprised how quickly these guys can get around the most sophisticate security measures these days. A system is only as good as the weakest link, and there's always a weak link... Amateurs don't try and make off with 5 cars at once from a dealer. This was a professional team, probably connected with organized crime. Would you think it was an inside job if only 1 car was stolen? This lot had 5, so they brought enough guys to get all 5 at the same time. They probably could have all pulled out together... There's absolutely nothing here that would require a guy on the inside; nothing... Does that mean they didn't have someone on the inside? Of course not; just that it wouldn't require someone on the inside...

08-18-2012, 02:59 PM	#32
Parabolica Account Suspended Drives: 2011 2SS Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: CA. Posts: 309	DP

08-18-2012, 03:29 PM	#33
tonyko1 Banned Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS Convertible, IBM Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,015	Then why was the ZL1 abandoned at a hospital parking lot then? If the perps wanted to draw attention away with a cold trail, could have been a lesser car than the ZL1. And how did the bumper get damaged? Wonder if the person driving the car needed medical services for some reason?.....

08-18-2012, 03:34 PM	#34
Mutant Racer Drives: 2015 2LT Torch Red C7 Stingray Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,807 View My Garage	I'm betting Vin Diesel and his gang of Fast and Fruity 4 cylinder Racer X wannabees finally decided to trade up. First thing they probably did was hang a small garden gnome off the back of the rear bumper.