[Number 3]

A lot of people have stated they would take the 5.3 liter V8 from the trucks in order to get a "low cost" V8.

How many would take the All New truck based 2.7L 4 cylinder turbo? At 310 horsepower and 348 pound-feet of torque it's a big improvement over the 275/295 currently in the Camaro 2.0T L4.

Much more torque than the V6 also (284) but still down a bit on HP.

Interesting. This was under discussion when I was there as a FE alternative in the FST. Looking forward to seeing those numbers.

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/05/18/...-pickup-96858/

[yankee]

If they would add this engine in 2020 version and bring back the sexy 6th gen look....

But a man can only dream

[Gen6_1Le]

Originally Posted by Number 3

A lot of people have stated they would take the 5.3 liter V8 from the trucks in order to get a "low cost" V8.

How many would take the All New truck based 2.7L 4 cylinder turbo? At 310 horsepower and 348 pound-feet of torque it's a big improvement over the 275/295 currently in the Camaro 2.0T L4.

Much more torque than the V6 also (284) but still down a bit on HP.

Interesting. This was under discussion when I was there as a FE alternative in the FST. Looking forward to seeing those numbers.

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/05/18/...-pickup-96858/

Would make a perfect base motor for the Camaro CUV .

[fastball]

That's an interesting displacement for a 4 cylinder. What's the bore x stroke on that puppy? Some pretty good sized pistons or a large crank.

[AZCamaroFan]

sounds alright to me if it's in a good looking Camaro

[craigss50]

Originally Posted by AZCamaroFan

sounds alright to me if it's in a good looking Camaro

Ah but it wouldn't sound alright. Hate the sound of a 4 banger.

[ssrs2lt]

Yeah that's an interesting engine reminds me of koenigsiggs value trick plus new turbo and more new tech..the numbers are impressive and definitely would fit the camaro..

[Norm Peterson]

Originally Posted by Number 3

A lot of people have stated they would take the 5.3 liter V8 from the trucks in order to get a "low cost" V8.

How many would take the All New truck based 2.7L 4 cylinder turbo? At 310 horsepower and 348 pound-feet of torque it's a big improvement over the 275/295 currently in the Camaro 2.0T L4.

Much more torque than the V6 also (284) but still down a bit on HP.

As spec'ed, it's a low to medium rpm truck engine. With torque stated as dropping off from 4000 rpm, I doubt its peak power rpm is much past 5300 (if it's that high).

A sporty car really needs an engine with higher rpm capability (and not be as coarse as a big 4) to match its character.


I'd like to see a 6.2 destroked to 5.6-ish with the 4.8's 3.3" stroke. A little bigger than 5.3L, with higher rpm potential.


Norm

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by Norm Peterson

As spec'ed, it's a low to medium rpm truck engine. With torque stated as dropping off from 4000 rpm, I doubt its peak power rpm is much past 5300 (if it's that high).

A sporty car really needs an engine with higher rpm capability (and not be as coarse as a big 4) to match its character.


I'd like to see a 6.2 destroked to 5.6-ish with the 4.8's 3.3" stroke. A little bigger than 5.3L, with higher rpm potential.


Norm

It's definitely tune for the truck application which would mean focus on torque down lower in the RPM band. After all, it's probably hauling around 4,500 pounds and up compared to the 2.0 in the sub 4,000 pound cars (CT6, CTS, ATS, Camaro).

I don't see them doing a lower displacement LT1 simply because the cost would be identical for less HP. And yes, you probably can rev it a little better with smaller pistons. So the question there is simply "would you pay the same money for less HP?" Unless you have even more in mind....

[fastball]

Originally Posted by Norm Peterson

I'd like to see a 6.2 destroked to 5.6-ish with the 4.8's 3.3" stroke. A little bigger than 5.3L, with higher rpm potential.


Norm

So in other words, a return of the 350

They were getting 325 hp out of the 350 in it's last iteration around 2002 with the ram air package in the old F-bodies so there's no reason to think they can't get 400 hp out of it now with 30+ mpg on the highway.

[Norm Peterson]

Originally Posted by fastball

So in other words, a return of the 350

Sort of. Almost like a 400-block/327 crank version of the older SBC.


[/quote]They were getting 325 hp out of the 350 in it's last iteration around 2002 with the ram air package in the old F-bodies so there's no reason to think they can't get 400 hp out of it now with 30+ mpg on the highway.[/QUOTE]
I can see a little over 400 HP with LS7 or better rpm capability being entirely possible.

But it might take having to squeeze more mpgs out of the V8 than can realistically be done with 6.2L, assuming that the oversquare configuration can be made to meet emissions.


Norm

[F1FTY]

Love the idea. Would Chevy then copy Mustang and drop the V6 in this scenario?

First, you'd have to see how much the unit cost is vs. the current V6/I4 currently offered.
I would be surprised if it were lower than either engine due to current economy of scale with that I4 and V6 being used across GM platforms globally. We would also need to know the internal sales figures for the current I4/V6 vs. the competition to see if there is a need to improve the cost leader engine too.

In terms of the engine itself, I'd imagine that some cam and timing changes might be able to turn it into a higher revving engine...it doesn't need to be an RPM screamer for the base model cars...the LT1 surely isn't.

edit: Also forgot to mention the impact having this engine alone would have on CAFE, footprint FE targets on the fleet. With the Co2 regulation in limbo, that may need heavy consideration as well for the US, but more so globally for co2.

[SnakeEyeSS]

Originally Posted by fastball

So in other words, a return of the 350

They were getting 325 hp out of the 350 in it's last iteration around 2002 with the ram air package in the old F-bodies so there's no reason to think they can't get 400 hp out of it now with 30+ mpg on the highway.

They we're getting 350 or more, they just claimed 325 to make the Corvette look better. Hot rod or super Chevy or someone took a WS6 TA and a Vette in 98 and put them on a Dyno back to back. The TA made a couple more hp

[AZCamaroFan]

Originally Posted by craigss50

Ah but it wouldn't sound alright. Hate the sound of a 4 banger.

possible. i don't think i've ever been in a turbo four.
Looks always come first for me though. It has to look good, and in this case look like a Camaro.