Intake manifold

[acammer]

Originally Posted by l.o.d_yankee

So we recived this graph from one of our customers in New jersey. The shop doing the work was Tune time performance in Lakewood. before and after mods are our X-1 manifold, 102mm TB and a Tune the car picked up 77hp on a mustang dyno! now we are not saying our manifold will net you 77hp however these are great numbers. We just thought we'd share.

p.s sorry about the size of the graph picture. (if anyone knows how to zoom in please help)

That's impressive. Whats the rest of of the setup on the car?

[l.o.d_yankee]

Originally Posted by acammer

That's impressive. Whats the rest of of the setup on the car?

Kooks longtubes, borla exhaust, K&N cold air intake, Texas speed stage 3 cam duration: 231/246 lift 629/615 and matching heads. (quoted from the customer)

[go_go_gadget88]

Originally Posted by l.o.d_yankee

Kooks longtubes, borla exhaust, K&N cold air intake, Texas speed stage 3 cam duration: 231/246 lift 629/615 and matching heads. (quoted from the customer)

This is basically my current setup too. Do you have a closer pic of the dyno sheet? Hard to see any actual numbers for it to be of use. What was the before and after hp/tq? Where did it peak? Unless the tune was whack to start with, i'm shocked it seemed to gain so much throughout the entire rev range.


I am just surprised that there seems to be so little data on these. That is a very pricey piece and i'm sure a lot of people (self included) are hesitant to throw down that much cash on something with so little info to back it up. Do you guys not do dyno testing with these on a non-stock motor before production?

Seems like it would be relatively easy to find a couple unbiased test mules that have a healthy cam/headwork and intake/exhaust to support it? Especially since an intake can be swapped on fairly quickly.

Not knocking you guys or your product at all. Maybe they are selling great already simply because they look freaking awesome! I can tell you that since I plan to go boosted down the road, this looks much more appealing than porting out my stock intake and having to switch it out later with something else...but some of us need more numbers before we will pull the trigger!!

[l.o.d_yankee]

Originally Posted by go_go_gadget88

This is basically my current setup too. Do you have a closer pic of the dyno sheet? Hard to see any actual numbers for it to be of use. What was the before and after hp/tq? Where did it peak? Unless the tune was whack to start with, i'm shocked it seemed to gain so much throughout the entire rev range.


I am just surprised that there seems to be so little data on these. That is a very pricey piece and i'm sure a lot of people (self included) are hesitant to throw down that much cash on something with so little info to back it up. Do you guys not do dyno testing with these on a non-stock motor before production?

Seems like it would be relatively easy to find a couple unbiased test mules that have a healthy cam/headwork and intake/exhaust to support it? Especially since an intake can be swapped on fairly quickly.

Not knocking you guys or your product at all. Maybe they are selling great already simply because they look freaking awesome! I can tell you that since I plan to go boosted down the road, this looks much more appealing than porting out my stock intake and having to switch it out later with something else...but some of us need more numbers before we will pull the trigger!!

This was an sent to us from one of our customers in new jersey. we had nothing to do with these numbers. we thought the same thing, the new tune was much better than the previous. You can atribute some of those numbers to the manifold however. Hence the disclaimer saying (it wont net you 77hp)
As far as the test mule goes thats the catch 22 of being in manufacturing, we can give numbers all day but because we are the one showing you the number it's not considered unbiased and fairly so. On the upside we are selling them and a new large shipment will be here in a few days so we'll keep grinding away as a small (100% American) company taking on the motorsport industry giants that manufacture overseas. We take no offense to constructive criticism, thats why we're here. The idea is to provide you the comsumer with the best product possible. More numbers to follow.

[1JEWLDSSRS]

Originally Posted by l.o.d_yankee

Kooks longtubes, borla exhaust, K&N cold air intake, Texas speed stage 3 cam duration: 231/246 lift 629/615 and matching heads. (quoted from the customer)

Wow that's a really good number to put down. I also have all these mods except my TSP Stage 3 cam is 231/246 with 641/615 lift@ 112 LSA. Even though I don't have after market or any head work done I should be able to put down a respectable number then. I also have a 3 inch Flowmaster outlaw cat back system. I just need to buy one.. lol

[xc_SS/RS]

Originally Posted by l.o.d_yankee

So we recived this graph from one of our customers in New jersey. The shop doing the work was Tune time performance in Lakewood. before and after mods are our X-1 manifold, 102mm TB and a Tune the car picked up 77hp on a mustang dyno! now we are not saying our manifold will net you 77hp however these are great numbers. We just thought we'd share.

p.s sorry about the size of the graph picture. (if anyone knows how to zoom in please help)

Man that's even with that kn intake everyone says is garbage. Guess it's not so bad after all lol

Great gains from those parts too! Wish they spun it faster though, I'm not sure it peaked yet. Do you know the before and after #'s?

[go_go_gadget88]

Originally Posted by l.o.d_yankee

This was an sent to us from one of our customers in new jersey. we had nothing to do with these numbers. we thought the same thing, the new tune was much better than the previous. You can atribute some of those numbers to the manifold however. Hence the disclaimer saying (it wont net you 77hp)
As far as the test mule goes thats the catch 22 of being in manufacturing, we can give numbers all day but because we are the one showing you the number it's not considered unbiased and fairly so. On the upside we are selling them and a new large shipment will be here in a few days so we'll keep grinding away as a small (100% American) company taking on the motorsport industry giants that manufacture overseas. We take no offense to constructive criticism, thats why we're here. The idea is to provide you the comsumer with the best product possible. More numbers to follow.

Right, I get that. I would rather see numbers your customers sent in too! However, I can't see those numbers so again, do you have the befores and afters since the pic is so small?

And I guess am just waiting to see more dynos where that is the only change. Even this one, the before tune could be questionable, and it also got a bigger throttle body. So it doesn't help someone like me that has a good tune now, and isn't changing throttle body. Or like clarks, where he did ported heads at same time. So how much did heads gain, and how much did the intake? As a consumer, I have not a clue what this intake will do for me and I can't find anything remotely apples to apples to figure it out :( if this makes sense.

Also, when I say unbiased test mule, I don't mean you doing the testing (or it isn't unbiased). I am no expert, but I don't think it would have been hard to say "hey, we will sell 5 of these at a discounted price if you are willing to do a before and after dyno with this as the only mod, and give us your results" Word of mouth is some of the best advertising you can buy, I do know that much. How many throttle bodies has Bo white ported? And I've never seen a single advertisement online for him. He just does an awesome job and is transparent about what you are getting.


Don't take anything I say as too harsh of criticizing, you guys made a damn good looking intake IMHO!! But I want to know what it will do for me outside of aesthetics. Hopefully, more of these will start circulating around and people can start getting us some numbers on what JUST THIS INTAKE will gain/lose over the stock on on a variety of builds!

[l.o.d_yankee]

Originally Posted by xc_SS/RS

Man that's even with that kn intake everyone says is garbage. Guess it's not so bad after all lol

Great gains from those parts too! Wish they spun it faster though, I'm not sure it peaked yet. Do you know the before and after #'s?

we'll message Dom to see if he has a before graph. The numbers he told us it came in at 446 hp before. Also a bigger picture of the graph overall haha

[l.o.d_yankee]

Originally Posted by go_go_gadget88

Right, I get that. I would rather see numbers your customers sent in too! However, I can't see those numbers so again, do you have the befores and afters since the pic is so small?

And I guess am just waiting to see more dynos where that is the only change. Even this one, the before tune could be questionable, and it also got a bigger throttle body. So it doesn't help someone like me that has a good tune now, and isn't changing throttle body. Or like clarks, where he did ported heads at same time. So how much did heads gain, and how much did the intake? As a consumer, I have not a clue what this intake will do for me and I can't find anything remotely apples to apples to figure it out :( if this makes sense.

Also, when I say unbiased test mule, I don't mean you doing the testing (or it isn't unbiased). I am no expert, but I don't think it would have been hard to say "hey, we will sell 5 of these at a discounted price if you are willing to do a before and after dyno with this as the only mod, and give us your results" Word of mouth is some of the best advertising you can buy, I do know that much. How many throttle bodies has Bo white ported? And I've never seen a single advertisement online for him. He just does an awesome job and is transparent about what you are getting.
Don't take anything I say as too harsh of criticizing, you guys made a damn good looking intake IMHO!! But I want to know what it will do for me outside of aesthetics. Hopefully, more of these will start circulating around and people can start getting us some numbers on what JUST THIS INTAKE will gain/lose over the stock on on a variety of builds!

absolutely, maybe a group buy or something to that effect is in order. We want to get it in the hands of anyone that wants to give us more feedback. we have hours upon hours on the dyno, engine and chassis so we know what it does under our conditions. However with all the diffrent combinations out there we always learn more.
we think it looks good too but thank you for that. we're enthusiast as well so we know where you're coming from.

[acammer]

Originally Posted by l.o.d_yankee

we'll message Dom to see if he has a before graph. The numbers he told us it came in at 446 hp before. Also a bigger picture of the graph overall haha

446 before sounds awfully low for a heads/cam car - I suspect the tune may have had a good deal to do with that outcome. Not knocking your product, just thinking there may be a few more details there we don't get to see.

Send me one - I'll get you a really nice before and after chart (like below) - and I'll send it all the way to 7300rpm!

[l.o.d_yankee]

Originally Posted by acammer

446 before sounds awfully low for a heads/cam car - I suspect the tune may have had a good deal to do with that outcome. Not knocking your product, just thinking there may be a few more details there we don't get to see.

Send me one - I'll get you a really nice before and after chart (like below) - and I'll send it all the way to 7300rpm!

our thoughts as well

[xc_SS/RS]

Originally Posted by acammer

446 before sounds awfully low for a heads/cam car - I suspect the tune may have had a good deal to do with that outcome. Not knocking your product, just thinking there may be a few more details there we don't get to see.

Send me one - I'll get you a really nice before and after chart (like below) - and I'll send it all the way to 7300rpm!

Agreed and Lazerlemonta would also be a great tester. He's got a M6 C6 running 10.5's on the stock cam and is super consistent. He has been trying to get it down to 10.3 and I think he could do it with this intake.

Got a track rental coming up where we could do a before/after test if you'd like one done! Since his last time out he changed to a mid-runner fast with a 102tb for the rental on 11/6.

Let me (or him) know!

[lazerlemonta]

LOL Thanks Ryan! After this rental I am going for the cam only record. I have the current M6 stock cam stock head record and look to smash it in a few weeks. I have already purchased my cam motion custom cam and am looking for a realistic 510+ cam only number. This cam requires no fly cutting either. I will be hunting the 9s for my goal next spring.

[l.o.d_yankee]

Originally Posted by xc_SS/RS

Agreed and Lazerlemonta would also be a great tester. He's got a M6 C6 running 10.5's on the stock cam and is super consistent. He has been trying to get it down to 10.3 and I think he could do it with this intake.

Got a track rental coming up where we could do a before/after test if you'd like one done! Since his last time out he changed to a mid-runner fast with a 102tb for the rental on 11/6.

Let me (or him) know!

This idea i like! Which track buds creek? I used to be stationed up there and race at that track all the time