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papabearcamaro · 06-17-2010, 10:34 PM

Car goes in on August 2nd for headers and dyno tune and I want to have either one of these mods installed at the same time.
What I am looking for out of this car is more torque gains than HP as I am not really looking for top end speed just more off the line punch . To put it simply I WANT THIS THING TO BE A TORQUE MONSTER.
I will be doing one of these now and the other in the future but which do you think I should do first untill I go to step 2 in the unknown future?
The sound of a cam is awesome but if the gears get me what I want than the cam will be in the next phase.
Car is an LS3. Thanks everyone!

wbt · 06-17-2010, 11:27 PM

I would go for the gear first.

Revo1 · 06-17-2010, 11:37 PM

Gears

VADER SS L99 · 06-17-2010, 11:38 PM

Cam first, just make sure to pick the correct one for your goals. A cam will make you way faster than what gears alone can do.

Ovenmitt · 06-18-2010, 03:59 AM

Gears, no contest.

tbss1 · 06-18-2010, 04:23 AM

I installed my 4.10 gears a few days ago, and I'm glad i did that first, this thing is way quicker, and if i do a cam i can match it to the gears.

Scott@Bjorn3D · 06-18-2010, 05:06 AM

Gears. They are going to be what gets you off the line faster and away from that 2011 Mustang staring at you.

Apex Motorsports · 06-18-2010, 05:15 AM

If you want to show more torque on the dyno go with a cam. If you want a significant throw your ass back in your seat experience go with the gears.

You should also consider upgrading your rear differential bushings while you have the rear end all ripped out to eliminate all the deflection. They make noticeable off the line difference on their own. We are about to add the Pdaft bushings as an option to our rear end gear package.

ArkySS · 06-18-2010, 09:06 AM

Chase you need to open up a shop in Arkansas......

caverman · 06-18-2010, 10:02 AM

Gears!

Like they said...you won't see it on a dyno but you'll see it at the strip and feel it from stop light to stop light.

I agree with doing the bushings at the same time. Most of the labor is already done to get the rear end out for the gears. You might as well do the bushings while you're there.

Apex Motorsports · 06-18-2010, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArkySS

Chase you need to open up a shop in Arkansas......

Someday we will be like McDonald's, a shop every third exit.

ArkySS · 06-18-2010, 10:49 PM

LOL!

tbss1 · 06-19-2010, 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apex Chase

If you want to show more torque on the dyno go with a cam. If you want a significant throw your ass back in your seat experience go with the gears.

You should also consider upgrading your rear differential bushings while you have the rear end all ripped out to eliminate all the deflection. They make noticeable off the line difference on their own. We are about to add the Pdaft bushings as an option to our rear end gear package.

For those of us that bought the gears already can we get a discount on the rear diff bushings, PLEASE!

Apex Motorsports · 06-19-2010, 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tbss1

For those of us that bought the gears already can we get a discount on the rear diff bushings, PLEASE!

Check on installation costs first, this is something you really want to do while your pumpkin is already ripped out for the gear swap. If you do it that way then it costs practically nothing extra, if you do it by itself its going to be steep.

06-17-2010, 10:34 PM	#1
papabearcamaro Drives: 2012 Chevrolet Silverado 4x4 Z71 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: WI. Posts: 1,744	cam or 4:10 gears for more torque? Car goes in on August 2nd for headers and dyno tune and I want to have either one of these mods installed at the same time. What I am looking for out of this car is more torque gains than HP as I am not really looking for top end speed just more off the line punch . To put it simply I WANT THIS THING TO BE A TORQUE MONSTER. I will be doing one of these now and the other in the future but which do you think I should do first untill I go to step 2 in the unknown future? The sound of a cam is awesome but if the gears get me what I want than the cam will be in the next phase. Car is an LS3. Thanks everyone! __________________ SOLD(Traded for 2012 Silverado Z71 4x4 and 2012 Sonic Hatch.)...2010 Camaro 1SS/RS/LS3,yellow with House of Kolor Tangerine Pearl rally stripes,manual trans.Hurst short throw shifter,4 pack rally gauges,Roto-Fab air intake,Kooks long tube headers with high-flow cats,Borla S-Type catback exhaust,Comp Cam,PRC ported heads,Maggie with 3.6 pulley and 1:1 cog drive,secondary fuel system with 65lb injectors,ADM digital A/F and Boost gauge,Pfadt trailing arms and subframe bushings.614.25rwhp/566.82rwtq on 8# of boost. 2012 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 EX.Cab 4X4 Z71.

06-17-2010, 11:37 PM	#3
Revo1 Don't Like it? Suggit. Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 14,832 View My Garage	Gears __________________ "Tops off, tach up baby- loud and proud!" A Camaro lover from day one- 1996 3.8 V6 Camaro, to 1996 5.7 LT1 Camaro Z28, to the sold 2002 5.7 LS1 Camaro SS, and NOW, a [I]6.2 L99 VR 2SS/RS: XS Power stainless full exhaust, Airaid CAI, BMR drop springs and sways, custom tune by Cal Speed- 411rwhp

06-17-2010, 11:38 PM	#4
VADER SS L99 Drives: 2013 A6 GT 5.0 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 2,909	Cam first, just make sure to pick the correct one for your goals. A cam will make you way faster than what gears alone can do. __________________ BLK/BLK 1SS/RS Ordered 11-01-2009 Took delivery 12-22-2009. Heads/cam/converter/bolt ons. SOLD Feb 2015 to fund 6th gen LT1 SS with 8L90E.

06-18-2010, 04:23 AM	#6
tbss1 More then meets the eye! Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS 426 hp Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Maui Posts: 584 View My Garage	I installed my 4.10 gears a few days ago, and I'm glad i did that first, this thing is way quicker, and if i do a cam i can match it to the gears. __________________ 2010 2SS/RS, M6, OBX 7/8" l/t headers, with high flow cats, MBRP full 3" exhaust, Whipple supercharger, 3.875 pulley, ID-1050X 1260CC injectors, JRE rough idle street blower cam kit, ZL1 fp, ZL1 fpcm, ZR1 3 bar map sensor, cold air intake, Richman 4.10 gears, BMR toe rods, trailing arms, f/r sway bars, f/r sway bar end links, BMR end link brackets, full BMR poly bushing including solid rear cradle bushings, BMR frame connectors and tunnel brace, f/r Hurst swaybar bushing brackets, Fluidamper, MGR shifter, and tune by Jannetty Racing.

06-18-2010, 09:06 AM	#9
ArkySS Camaroless for now... Drives: 2014 Blue Topaz Silverado Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Arkansas Posts: 1,411	Chase you need to open up a shop in Arkansas...... __________________ It was fun while it lasted.....

06-17-2010, 11:27 PM	#2
wbt Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Challenger R/T;2011 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 2,105	I would go for the gear first.

06-18-2010, 03:59 AM	#5
Ovenmitt Account Suspended Drives: 2011 RJT 1SS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Fort Lewis, Washington Posts: 730	Gears, no contest.

06-18-2010, 05:06 AM	#7
Scott@Bjorn3D Drives: Kami, 2013 2SS LS3 Luvin Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Eufaula, Alabama Posts: 6,427	Gears. They are going to be what gets you off the line faster and away from that 2011 Mustang staring at you.

06-18-2010, 05:15 AM	#8
Apex Motorsports Drives: 2000 Camaro SS Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Louisville, Ky. Posts: 25,179	If you want to show more torque on the dyno go with a cam. If you want a significant throw your ass back in your seat experience go with the gears. You should also consider upgrading your rear differential bushings while you have the rear end all ripped out to eliminate all the deflection. They make noticeable off the line difference on their own. We are about to add the Pdaft bushings as an option to our rear end gear package.

06-18-2010, 10:02 AM	#10
caverman Drives: '69 SS Convertible Join Date: May 2009 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 7,111	Gears! Like they said...you won't see it on a dyno but you'll see it at the strip and feel it from stop light to stop light. I agree with doing the bushings at the same time. Most of the labor is already done to get the rear end out for the gears. You might as well do the bushings while you're there. __________________ *-2010 Camaro* 2SS \| M6 \| VR w/White Stripes \| 1 3/4" KOOKS - 3" Magnaflow \| LPE 3.91 gears \| ADM tuned \| Halltech w/ADM Scoop \| Spohn/BMR Trailing Arm/Toe Rod \| BC Coilovers\| Pedders FE4 ZL1 swaybars \| Cradle/Diff/Radius Rod bushings \| VMax TB \| Morimoto Projectors \| MGW shifter \| Red Calipers Build Journal

06-18-2010, 10:49 PM	#12
ArkySS Camaroless for now... Drives: 2014 Blue Topaz Silverado Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Arkansas Posts: 1,411	LOL! __________________ It was fun while it lasted.....

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