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etmx183 · 08-08-2013, 10:54 AM

Looks like rain here on Friday & Saturday. Will try again next week.

IneedAZ · 08-08-2013, 11:00 AM

I am hoping to try next saturday after the tune if all goes well and doesnt rain.

etmx183 · 08-08-2013, 03:34 PM

I might just have to get on the AutoTrain and come down to meet you and Matt@FSP in person one day.

IneedAZ · 08-08-2013, 04:21 PM

Bring Crabs with you...I miss the steamed blue crabs!!

jbrantner24 · 08-08-2013, 08:48 PM

It seems kind of tough to get ahold of Matt@FSP. Not to jack your thread, but I'm just hoping he sees this and shoots me a PM. Been trying to get ahold of him for a couple months now about tuning.

Tampa Tuning · 08-10-2013, 08:33 AM

The really key to tuning is your use of a wideband.

If you don't use a wideband, your guesstimating. The MAF is used as an output frequency for fueling because its calculated in Hz not RPMs. If your not using a wideband connected to your computer scanner ( Not your dyno) you don't know where the tip in on Hz begins exactly on the MAF to adjust fueling and that can cause vehicles to go lean and detonate.

Your AFR is a moving target throughout your RPM band and slightly different for each gear because of mass airflow at different speeds and air intake systems.

I like my WOT on N/A cars to be in the mid 12's. That keeps motor rich and safe. The heavier the vehicle is (like a truck), I like it richer in the low 12s. Fuel also acts as a lubricate and a coolant inside the cylinder. You don't want to use fueling to drown knock retarding. What you want to do is get your fueling where you like it, then see how much main spark it will tolerate.

Phil
Owner of Tampa Tuning

etmx183 · 08-11-2013, 04:26 PM

Very true Phil,
It can also be used a safety item if you keep it in view in case of a sudden fuel issue you can catch it quick and save an engine. I have seen all of the top remote tuners on here ask clients to make sure they have a good A/F meter installed. Look at the Cadillac Northstar if the engine gets hot it will kill certain firing cylinders and use the raw fuel to try and help cool the engine. Thanks for sharing some great insite of tuning. It's a lot more than just adding fuel and taking it away by injector timing.

etmx183 · 08-15-2013, 01:04 PM

Weather looks good for Friday night T&T session so far no rain for some updated tuning runs. About an hour ago had a guy come into the shop today and call me a liar saying he heard I was running 12s with my car. I told him yes on nitrous. He called me out for a heads up run Friday night. He has a 2012 V6 Mustang and said he is only running 13.3s on spray, he is lighter, has headers, bla bla bla. Said NO WAY with my car heavier and no headers than his. Sooooooo I told him be at the the track. if my motor runs are good and A/F looks good we can do a heads up run even tho I'm not tuned for the spray right now. I can watch my A/F and keep from going lean by letting off the button. So we might have some more information than just motor tuning feedback soon.

JohnnyBfromPeoria · 08-15-2013, 01:52 PM

Kick his ass, Seabass!

John B.

IneedAZ · 08-15-2013, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by etmx183

Weather looks good for Friday night T&T session so far no rain for some updated tuning runs. About an hour ago had a guy come into the shop today and call me a liar saying he heard I was running 12s with my car. I told him yes on nitrous. He called me out for a heads up run Friday night. He has a 2012 V6 Mustang and said he is only running 13.3s on spray, he is lighter, has headers, bla bla bla. Said NO WAY with my car heavier and no headers than his. Sooooooo I told him be at the the track. if my motor runs are good and A/F looks good we can do a heads up run even tho I'm not tuned for the spray right now. I can watch my A/F and keep from going lean by letting off the button. So we might have some more information than just motor tuning feedback soon.

Is his mustang an Auto or Stick? Hopefully an auto so he doesnt have the " I missed a gear" excuse when u beat him by 5 cars

IneedAZ · 08-15-2013, 02:13 PM

I dont think my track time will happen this saturday, calling for 60% chance of rain as of now. :(

etmx183 · 08-15-2013, 02:44 PM

I don't know about trans type. Hope he is good on the tree because I cut consistent .025 - .030 lights. Probably just one of those types that runs their mouth not their car. When I'm done smoking his car, I'll smack him with my AARP card and call him a young wipper snapper.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by IneedAZ

Is his mustang an Auto or Stick? Hopefully an auto so he doesnt have the " I missed a gear" excuse when u beat him by 5 cars

pgustavson · 08-15-2013, 05:13 PM

Will you be at Capitol??? If I can get there, I'd love to see this...

etmx183 · 08-15-2013, 05:41 PM

Yes I'll be at Capitol Raceway on Friday. I'll be the Old Guy with the young Camaro. :-)

08-08-2013, 11:00 AM	#58
IneedAZ Drives: 2017 ZL1 A10 & 2021 BMW M340i x Dr Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tampa Posts: 5,110 View My Garage	I am hoping to try next saturday after the tune if all goes well and doesnt rain. __________________ Sold 2012 2LT RS 12.3@112 old setup Sold 1967 Camaro Pro Street. Ran 10's mild BB on NOS. 2017 HyperBlue ZL1 A10 Born 3/17/17Delivered 4/08/17 2020 Build: Mag2650, BTR Stage2, NW103, BG, 14% lower, 90mm upper, ARH 2" Long system w/no cats, SW Legend mufflers. 807hp/762tq on 93 gas and 848hp/792tq on e47 Sold 2018 (Go Mango) Dodge Charger Daytona 392 Daily Driver Daily Driver 2021 BMW M340i Xdrive

08-08-2013, 04:21 PM	#60
IneedAZ Drives: 2017 ZL1 A10 & 2021 BMW M340i x Dr Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tampa Posts: 5,110 View My Garage	Bring Crabs with you...I miss the steamed blue crabs!! __________________ Sold 2012 2LT RS 12.3@112 old setup Sold 1967 Camaro Pro Street. Ran 10's mild BB on NOS. 2017 HyperBlue ZL1 A10 Born 3/17/17Delivered 4/08/17 2020 Build: Mag2650, BTR Stage2, NW103, BG, 14% lower, 90mm upper, ARH 2" Long system w/no cats, SW Legend mufflers. 807hp/762tq on 93 gas and 848hp/792tq on e47 Sold 2018 (Go Mango) Dodge Charger Daytona 392 Daily Driver Daily Driver 2021 BMW M340i Xdrive

08-08-2013, 08:48 PM	#61
jbrantner24 Drives: 2013 Camaro LS M6 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Menomonie, WI Posts: 59	It seems kind of tough to get ahold of Matt@FSP. Not to jack your thread, but I'm just hoping he sees this and shoots me a PM. Been trying to get ahold of him for a couple months now about tuning. __________________ K&N intake, Resonated X-pipe w/muffler delete, Trifecta Tune, rashes up sport muscle tachs.

08-15-2013, 02:13 PM	#67
IneedAZ Drives: 2017 ZL1 A10 & 2021 BMW M340i x Dr Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tampa Posts: 5,110 View My Garage	I dont think my track time will happen this saturday, calling for 60% chance of rain as of now. :( __________________ Sold 2012 2LT RS 12.3@112 old setup Sold 1967 Camaro Pro Street. Ran 10's mild BB on NOS. 2017 HyperBlue ZL1 A10 Born 3/17/17Delivered 4/08/17 2020 Build: Mag2650, BTR Stage2, NW103, BG, 14% lower, 90mm upper, ARH 2" Long system w/no cats, SW Legend mufflers. 807hp/762tq on 93 gas and 848hp/792tq on e47 Sold 2018 (Go Mango) Dodge Charger Daytona 392 Daily Driver Daily Driver 2021 BMW M340i Xdrive

08-15-2013, 05:13 PM	#69
pgustavson Stop writing "vert", ffs! Drives: 2011 2LT Convertible Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Gambrills, MD Posts: 1,341 View My Garage	Will you be at Capitol??? If I can get there, I'd love to see this... __________________ Vararam \| Vmax Ported TB \| Ported IM \| Vmax Black ICE-olator

08-08-2013, 10:54 AM	#57
etmx183 Drives: 2012 Camaro 2LT RS Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Posts: 1,633 View My Garage	Looks like rain here on Friday & Saturday. Will try again next week.

08-08-2013, 03:34 PM	#59
etmx183 Drives: 2012 Camaro 2LT RS Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Posts: 1,633 View My Garage	I might just have to get on the AutoTrain and come down to meet you and Matt@FSP in person one day.

08-10-2013, 08:33 AM	#62
Tampa Tuning Account Suspended Drives: TAMPA TUNING FACEBOOK & INSTAGRAM Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Tampa, Fl Posts: 3,044	The really key to tuning is your use of a wideband. If you don't use a wideband, your guesstimating. The MAF is used as an output frequency for fueling because its calculated in Hz not RPMs. If your not using a wideband connected to your computer scanner ( Not your dyno) you don't know where the tip in on Hz begins exactly on the MAF to adjust fueling and that can cause vehicles to go lean and detonate. Your AFR is a moving target throughout your RPM band and slightly different for each gear because of mass airflow at different speeds and air intake systems. I like my WOT on N/A cars to be in the mid 12's. That keeps motor rich and safe. The heavier the vehicle is (like a truck), I like it richer in the low 12s. Fuel also acts as a lubricate and a coolant inside the cylinder. You don't want to use fueling to drown knock retarding. What you want to do is get your fueling where you like it, then see how much main spark it will tolerate. Phil Owner of Tampa Tuning

08-11-2013, 04:26 PM	#63
etmx183 Drives: 2012 Camaro 2LT RS Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Posts: 1,633 View My Garage	Very true Phil, It can also be used a safety item if you keep it in view in case of a sudden fuel issue you can catch it quick and save an engine. I have seen all of the top remote tuners on here ask clients to make sure they have a good A/F meter installed. Look at the Cadillac Northstar if the engine gets hot it will kill certain firing cylinders and use the raw fuel to try and help cool the engine. Thanks for sharing some great insite of tuning. It's a lot more than just adding fuel and taking it away by injector timing.

08-15-2013, 01:04 PM	#64
etmx183 Drives: 2012 Camaro 2LT RS Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Posts: 1,633 View My Garage	Weather looks good for Friday night T&T session so far no rain for some updated tuning runs. About an hour ago had a guy come into the shop today and call me a liar saying he heard I was running 12s with my car. I told him yes on nitrous. He called me out for a heads up run Friday night. He has a 2012 V6 Mustang and said he is only running 13.3s on spray, he is lighter, has headers, bla bla bla. Said NO WAY with my car heavier and no headers than his. Sooooooo I told him be at the the track. if my motor runs are good and A/F looks good we can do a heads up run even tho I'm not tuned for the spray right now. I can watch my A/F and keep from going lean by letting off the button. So we might have some more information than just motor tuning feedback soon.

08-15-2013, 01:52 PM	#65
JohnnyBfromPeoria Drives: 2012 LS M6, Black Join Date: May 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,045	Kick his ass, Seabass! John B.

08-15-2013, 05:41 PM	#70
etmx183 Drives: 2012 Camaro 2LT RS Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Posts: 1,633 View My Garage	Yes I'll be at Capitol Raceway on Friday. I'll be the Old Guy with the young Camaro. :-)