Speedster's SST Camaro Build Thread [COTW 9/13/10] - Page 28 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Chewy · 08-14-2010, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PQ

When this car is done, I don't think 30 minutes will be a problem.

30 min to anywhere!

speedster · 08-14-2010, 12:06 PM

Alright, its been a while since you've seen updates to the SST Camaro 5 Sub Shop Special and the abuse is just killing us...

OK, so here is the beautiful Air-To-Air Intercooler fabricated for the SST:

And this was how the custom radiator fit:

Well, after talking and keeping to the goal of 100% streetability while being pretty quick too, we decide to switch to an Air-To-Water Intercooler. The Air-To-Air would work like a charm on the street, but it blocked too much of the radiator surface and that would make the engine run hotter here in Florida. So... Air-To-Water. [Plus at the track you don't have to rely on ambient air temp to cool the charge, you can use ice water and dry ice to control your IAT's]

In order to design an ATW that allows the highest efficiency and shortest piping it would be necessary to move the already great fitting radiator forward. :( Oh well.

So...the front support was cut and refabricated to put the radiator THROUGH the support. It was moved forward a total of 5". This allows the ATW intercooler to fit perfect and even allowed us to fabricate a radiused, billet snout that also allowed the intake runners to be raised more which will widen and fatten the torque curve farther.

It has taken a little longer, but we feel this set of modifications will be well worth it in reliability, streetability and power gain.

Pic 1 - The radiator moved forward 5" and the fabrication mount for the billet snout.
Pic 2 - How nice both the radiator and ATW Intercooler fit. When finished it will look factory stock.

Also note how short the piping between the turbos and the Intercooler is. More free HP - cool stuff !

PQ · 08-14-2010, 12:27 PM

That looks so cool.

(pun intended)

d69chris · 08-14-2010, 12:33 PM

Hot damn that is cool.

(No pun or plumbing reference intended)

*GTAHVIT* · 08-14-2010, 12:44 PM

Wow!

Darth_Emma · 08-14-2010, 01:29 PM

speedster:
Arent' you afraid that these mods might void your warranty?

I kill me!!

speedster · 08-14-2010, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth_Emma

speedster:Arent' you afraid that these mods might void your warranty?

Warranty? Warranty? That is the least of our worries.

But I was terrified of violating the Sub Shop Franchise Agreement...
How would we ever be able to provide lunch at C5Fest 2 without it ??

Think of all that lost meat and cheese...and the buns...Oh the horror !!

We may as well call it the HMS Bounty at that point. It would be mutiny.

Geez, you guys almost had me convinced to put one of those portable little gas grilles on the chute mount for the hot subs...

Darth_Emma · 08-14-2010, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedster

Warranty? Warranty? That is the least of our worries.

Hehe! I'm with you on the warranty thing. Here is my definition.

Warranty - that thing that stops the weak from doing what they want with their Camaros!

My build is nothing like yours, speedster, but I am having way too much fun modding mine to let the warranty get in the way.

(PS: I realize that not everyone is comfortable voiding their warranty and I completely understand that. We each have our own comfort zones.)

Oh yeah, about the gas grill thing... our little van/camper has a gas outlet on the back to hook up a gas grill to it. You could do that to SST. I'm sure you could hide that somewhere among all the other goodies.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 08-14-2010, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedster

Also note how short the piping between the turbos and the Intercooler is. More free HP - cool stuff !

I'm surprised you just don't remove the wastegates altogether. Free hp!!!

speedster · 08-14-2010, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

I'm surprised you just don't remove the wastegates altogether. Free hp!!!

Excellent idea. Boost for everyone - all the time...

Mr Twisty · 08-14-2010, 05:47 PM

Most cars have what, 6 feet or more of intake tubing on an ATAAC... you have maybe 2 including the snout? That's cool beans!

I would recommend you route the intake thru the hood to prevent small children and kittens from being sucked in the engine

StlRomAniaN · 08-14-2010, 06:55 PM

So will this transmission still utilize tapshift or will it only work for the linelock and transbrake?

speedster · 08-14-2010, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69

Most cars have what, 6 feet or more of intake tubing on an ATAAC... you have maybe 2 including the snout? That's cool beans!

I would recommend you route the intake thru the hood to prevent small children and kittens from being sucked in the engine

Yeah maybe around 2 feet of tubing total. Should really allow the ATW to do its job efficiently. Sorry about the small animals...

Quote:

Originally Posted by StlRomAniaN

So will this transmission still utilize tapshift or will it only work for the linelock and transbrake?

No more TapShift :( Since this is a 4L85E there will be maps for street, strip, road course and highway cruise modes. The buttons are lineloc and transbrake. Great for ergonomics and safety - don't have to take your hands off the wheel during launches.

Gonna rely on the Barton shifter for spirited street driving...

Gotthat02fire · 08-14-2010, 08:50 PM

Can I go for a ride????? I can offer a ride in mine but it dosen't even compare to your Camaro!!!!!!!

08-14-2010, 12:06 PM	#380
speedster SST... Drives: SST Camaro 2010 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: East Coast of Florida Posts: 5,927 View My Garage	Alright, its been a while since you've seen updates to the SST Camaro 5 Sub Shop Special and the abuse is just killing us... OK, so here is the beautiful Air-To-Air Intercooler fabricated for the SST: And this was how the custom radiator fit: Well, after talking and keeping to the goal of 100% streetability while being pretty quick too, we decide to switch to an Air-To-Water Intercooler. The Air-To-Air would work like a charm on the street, but it blocked too much of the radiator surface and that would make the engine run hotter here in Florida. So... Air-To-Water. [Plus at the track you don't have to rely on ambient air temp to cool the charge, you can use ice water and dry ice to control your IAT's] In order to design an ATW that allows the highest efficiency and shortest piping it would be necessary to move the already great fitting radiator forward. :( Oh well. So...the front support was cut and refabricated to put the radiator THROUGH the support. It was moved forward a total of 5". This allows the ATW intercooler to fit perfect and even allowed us to fabricate a radiused, billet snout that also allowed the intake runners to be raised more which will widen and fatten the torque curve farther. It has taken a little longer, but we feel this set of modifications will be well worth it in reliability, streetability and power gain. Pic 1 - The radiator moved forward 5" and the fabrication mount for the billet snout. Pic 2 - How nice both the radiator and ATW Intercooler fit. When finished it will look factory stock. Also note how short the piping between the turbos and the Intercooler is. More free HP - cool stuff ! Attached Images __________________

08-14-2010, 12:27 PM	#381
PQ Booooosted. Drives: 2010 Supercharged SS Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 36,716 View My Garage	That looks so cool. (pun intended) __________________

08-14-2010, 12:33 PM	#382
d69chris Florida C5 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Vortech L99 IOM Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Tequesta, FL Posts: 2,610 View My Garage	Hot damn that is cool. (No pun or plumbing reference intended) __________________ Ordered 11/08/08....Del. 08/05/2009 Loving every minute of it! Don't hate me because i'm Pretty....

08-14-2010, 12:44 PM	#383
GTAHVIT Blessed Drives: 2013 Sonic RS MT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Saint Augustine FL Posts: 28,444 View My Garage	Wow! __________________ Click image to see build thread. PQ - "the love of cars. It's a boys first step toward manhood and a mans last hold on boyhood." Fbodfather - "We do not want to use the Z28 moniker on a car that does not deserve this hallowed name." The_Blur - "Let's not confuse competitors with equals."

08-14-2010, 05:47 PM	#389
Mr Twisty Drives: the 2nd amendment home Join Date: May 2008 Location: OK Posts: 14,707	Most cars have what, 6 feet or more of intake tubing on an ATAAC... you have maybe 2 including the snout? That's cool beans! I would recommend you route the intake thru the hood to prevent small children and kittens from being sucked in the engine __________________ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin

08-14-2010, 01:29 PM	#384
Darth_Emma Psssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh! Drives: under contruction Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Marysville, Ohio Posts: 12,996 View My Garage	speedster: Arent' you afraid that these mods might void your warranty? I kill me!!

08-14-2010, 06:55 PM	#390
StlRomAniaN Drives: IOM 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 1,782 View My Garage	So will this transmission still utilize tapshift or will it only work for the linelock and transbrake? __________________

08-14-2010, 08:50 PM	#392
Gotthat02fire Drives: 2010 Camaro 1ss IOM Join Date: May 2009 Location: Williamsport,PA Posts: 2,246 View My Garage	Can I go for a ride????? I can offer a ride in mine but it dosen't even compare to your Camaro!!!!!!! __________________ Jannetty Racing Built and Tuned 416 Maggie Max Package even better now!

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