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Bhobbs · 02-02-2013, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by PYROLYSIS

Chicago. Media day this Thursday.

Alright. If I miss it I'm sure it will be posted on here.

*mlee* · 02-02-2013, 03:01 AM

Looks to me like the 5th Gen is set to go out with a bang...

Z28 + LS7 =

buckeyemike · 02-02-2013, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by PYROLYSIS

It would actually be a phenomenal accomplishment if they could make a 6 sound like an 8. That would definitely ease the pain of V-8s becoming more expensive as oil runs out.

this is what I can't wrap my head around with muscle car guys... our V6's now put out similar power to V8's in their hayday, yet people still claim it's "missing cylinders", but all they have to cling to anymore is "sound".

If a twin turb V6 puts down as much power as a V8, there shouldn't be any gripe. The only sound I'll need to hear to be happy is the sound of the receipt that prints out "Lane A: 13.00".

BrazenBeast · 02-02-2013, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by buckeyemike

this is what I can't wrap my head around with muscle car guys... our V6's now put out similar power to V8's in their hayday, yet people still claim it's "missing cylinders", but all they have to cling to anymore is "sound".

If a twin turb V6 puts down as much power as a V8, there shouldn't be any gripe. The only sound I'll need to hear to be happy is the sound of the receipt that prints out "Lane A: 13.00".

I hope you plan on being in "Lane B" with that kind of time.

I still say LS7 option on SS no Z28 model.

Kevlar382 · 02-02-2013, 10:40 AM

With all the time and money GM has spent to make a motor that gets better gas mileage (C7) I would think there is a better chance of seeing a bumped up
LT1 than an LS7.

Kevlar382 · 02-02-2013, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by davidcroft

I think everyone is forgetting about those leaked VIN cards with all the engine options for 2014. There IS an LF3 which is a twin turbo 3.6. To me...that's just as exciting as an LS7.

If the N/A 3.6 lays down 323 what do 2 turbos add?

At one time the Synergy Camaro was going to be a limited ed. car with a twin turbo V6 making 400hp and 30 mpg.

Bhobbs · 02-02-2013, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by buckeyemike

this is what I can't wrap my head around with muscle car guys... our V6's now put out similar power to V8's in their hayday, yet people still claim it's "missing cylinders", but all they have to cling to anymore is "sound".

If a twin turb V6 puts down as much power as a V8, there shouldn't be any gripe. The only sound I'll need to hear to be happy is the sound of the receipt that prints out "Lane A: 13.00".

It's about the sound. A V6 today may make as much power as the old V8s but they sure as hell don't sound like them. Plus, today's V8s make significantly more power than the old V8s while getting better mileage.

Go Fast Kid · 02-02-2013, 02:27 PM

Here are some photos of my LS 7

lbls1 · 02-02-2013, 04:54 PM

I've followed this thread with some interest, and I've had a little time to ponder this possibility, so here's my take on this subject.

If indeed this mule is a project that Chevrolet is giving serious consideration into manufacturing, then I am perplexed at the logic of the development of a production LS7 5th gen. Camaro. My reasons are as follows:

1. The ZL1 has been introduced as the "ultimate" performance Camaro, and while it has done great things in terms of handling, it was overcast by its rival, the '13 GT500, with its greater power and acceleration numbers.
2. Its my opinion, but it seems that the name ZL1 probably would've been a closer fit for the LS7 concept, being that the 427 cubic inch engine and the ZL1 name were synonymous in 1969. The new concept of the current ZL1 being more of a handling and track car versus an all out street brawler seems to compromise the ZL1 legacy.
3. With the launch of an LS7 camaro (at the ls7's current tune of 505 hp), Chevy will have two Camaro models at a conservative power rating in the 500 hp band, and at a curb weight of over 4000 lbs, and both models may not approach the power and acceleration numbers of the current GT500.

A few years ago I would've been excited about the prospect of an LS7 Camaro; Today it seems that I am wondering why Chevy would introduce another overweight and underpowered 5th gen. instead of working on their current Camaro models to compete more closely with its Mustang counterparts. It would seem to me that the smarter bet would be to use Chevy's wonderful 3.91 gear set and more aggressive power tuning to bring the ZL1 closer to the GT500.

It would be great if the LS7 Camaro development would be a part of a greater plan to strengthen the ZL1 and the other Camaro models across the board.

v8 · 02-02-2013, 05:02 PM

well said

buckeyemike · 02-02-2013, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BrazenBeast

I hope you plan on being in "Lane B" with that kind of time.

I still say LS7 option on SS no Z28 model.

I'm glad that's what you took out of it, instead of the fact that a stock V6 running 13's out of the box is acceptable...

buckeyemike · 02-02-2013, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs

It's about the sound. A V6 today may make as much power as the old V8s but they sure as hell don't sound like them. Plus, today's V8s make significantly more power than the old V8s while getting better mileage.

Caring about just the sound alone is pretty ricer to me. If all you care about is sound and looks, just buy one of those speakers that masks your cars exhaust note like the ones they use on Pimp My Ride, or they can be like the BMW's and pump fake sounds into the cabin.

The IOM Ninja · 02-02-2013, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by buckeyemike

Caring about just the sound alone is pretty ricer to me. If all you care about is sound and looks, just buy one of those speakers that masks your cars exhaust note like the ones they use on Pimp My Ride, or they can be like the BMW's and pump fake sounds into the cabin.

Oh christ...

The problem is that some people like their car to sound as aggressive as it is..

I'm sorry to break this to you but a V6 will never sound as aggressive as a V8. Nissan knows how to make a V6 sound good but the V6 Camaro, and most V6's for that matter, sounds like a blender...

I have no problem with a V6 Camaro but they don't sound as good as the V8 by quite a LARGE Margin...

Bhobbs · 02-02-2013, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by buckeyemike

Caring about just the sound alone is pretty ricer to me. If all you care about is sound and looks, just buy one of those speakers that masks your cars exhaust note like the ones they use on Pimp My Ride, or they can be like the BMW's and pump fake sounds into the cabin.

Rice? Wanting an American muscle car to sound like an American muscle car is rice?

How about an NA V8 that puts out similar HP to a TT V6 being smaller, probably lighter, less complex and similar mpg.

02-02-2013, 03:01 AM	#184
mlee CamaroFans.com Drives: ZLE & ZR2 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Conroe, TX Posts: 37,501 View My Garage	Looks to me like the 5th Gen is set to go out with a bang... Z28 + LS7 = __________________

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Go Fast Kid Drives: Camaro 2010 SS LS7 427ci Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Miami Posts: 61	LS7 Camaro Here are some photos of my LS 7 Attached Images

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lbls1 Drives: 2002 Camaro SS SOM; 2015 Malibu LTZ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 4,022	I've followed this thread with some interest, and I've had a little time to ponder this possibility, so here's my take on this subject. If indeed this mule is a project that Chevrolet is giving serious consideration into manufacturing, then I am perplexed at the logic of the development of a production LS7 5th gen. Camaro. My reasons are as follows: 1. The ZL1 has been introduced as the "ultimate" performance Camaro, and while it has done great things in terms of handling, it was overcast by its rival, the '13 GT500, with its greater power and acceleration numbers. 2. Its my opinion, but it seems that the name ZL1 probably would've been a closer fit for the LS7 concept, being that the 427 cubic inch engine and the ZL1 name were synonymous in 1969. The new concept of the current ZL1 being more of a handling and track car versus an all out street brawler seems to compromise the ZL1 legacy. 3. With the launch of an LS7 camaro (at the ls7's current tune of 505 hp), Chevy will have two Camaro models at a conservative power rating in the 500 hp band, and at a curb weight of over 4000 lbs, and both models may not approach the power and acceleration numbers of the current GT500. A few years ago I would've been excited about the prospect of an LS7 Camaro; Today it seems that I am wondering why Chevy would introduce another overweight and underpowered 5th gen. instead of working on their current Camaro models to compete more closely with its Mustang counterparts. It would seem to me that the smarter bet would be to use Chevy's wonderful 3.91 gear set and more aggressive power tuning to bring the ZL1 closer to the GT500. It would be great if the LS7 Camaro development would be a part of a greater plan to strengthen the ZL1 and the other Camaro models across the board. __________________ '02 CAMARO SS SOM; 5.7L LS1/FLS6B '08 TBSS AWD Black Granite Metallic '15 Malibu LTZ 2LZ Turbo *'14 CAMARO ZL1 Blue Ray Metallic*

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v8 Drives: 19 Z06 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Oakville Ont. Posts: 1,427	well said __________________ Gone but not forgotten: 1974 Corvette Stingray 454 1986 Z28 2009 Mustang GT convertible 2012 45th 2SS Vert 2013 ZL1 M6 2014 Zl1 M6 2014 GT500 2016 Challenger Hellcat M6 www.youtube.com/c/garageking

02-02-2013, 10:40 AM	#187
Kevlar382 Drives: '12 ZL1; '71 RS/Z28; '99 Vette Conv Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Holland MI Posts: 599 View My Garage	With all the time and money GM has spent to make a motor that gets better gas mileage (C7) I would think there is a better chance of seeing a bumped up LT1 than an LS7.