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LT1Zob · 07-21-2021, 10:27 PM

Let me start by saying I was never a fan of, nor purchased a throttle controller because I never wanted to mess with a drive by wire system. If I wanted more power without dead spots, I got a tune, ported my TB, hell, I had my supercharger ported too while I was at it. Always thought TCs were nothing more than placebo BS.

Fast forward to today. A couple weeks back I picked up a 12 RS from the original owner. Incredibly well maintained and loved car. It has a CAI, Vmax TB, Borla, MGW short-throw and the 2 button (original design) Vitesse throttle controller. The reponse on 5 feels pretty good, not going to lie. I'm fully aware that it provides nothing other than a quicker throttle response, but I don't hate it. Actually thinking of keeping it on the car.

This brings up the question. I will be driving this car often and long trips with the wife. Basically, no snow or salt on the ground = I'm enjoying this car. So with that in mind, can you guys share your longterm experience with the Vitesse? CELs? ECU issues that developed over time? Limp mode? Or everything is just fine? It's now been years since this thing came out, so there should be some good, longterm data out there. Thanks in advance (and no YouTube vid links please, I've already watched those). I'm interested in your experience.

DRC69 · 07-22-2021, 10:31 AM

Hi,
I have the VTC (2 button) setup to on #5. But I think it doesn't play-well with my tune.
I like it but. I haven't had any issues.

I'm planning on buying a JMS PedalMax to see if it will be a-little smoother.
Will see.

SSFury · 07-22-2021, 11:54 AM

I ran mine for around 6 years with no issues. Usually left it set around 5. The last six months or so, I started playing racecar a bit more, setting it to 7, and sometimes 9. Within 6 months of really getting on it, it started malfunctioning and kicking the car into limp mode. I had to remove it.

I now have a tune, and a tune does NOT do what that did. I fully plan on getting another throttle controller, but next time it will be a Pedal Commander.

crazy4camaro · 07-22-2021, 01:32 PM

I had and enjoyed VTC for a couple years , then for unknown reason started throwing limp mode, stabitrak codes removed it and replaced after about a year with pedal commander

Rainbow1616 · 07-22-2021, 03:34 PM

I have had mine on for about 7 or 8 years. I do have a tune and I have had no issues at all.
I typically leave it set at 7

LT1Zob · 07-22-2021, 04:59 PM

Thank you everyone for your input. I’ll leave it in until/if I have an issue. Then I’ll reconsider my options.

spyderbuddy · 07-22-2021, 05:30 PM

on #10 for the last 8 years, you just get use to it. And make a Kick on a RS when set to Sport Mode

KillboyPowerhead · 07-22-2021, 07:47 PM

Had mine for ~6 years; the only issue I had was when I tapped the throttle a couple of times in quick succession and got a code (reduced power, etc.) related to the throttle position sensor not meeting command (not surprising considering what the throttle controller does). Typically keep it on #5, and even with a tune (Overkill) #5 seems much more responsive. As mentioned, worst case use it for now and if it gives you regular issues then stop using it.

InFiD3ViL · 07-22-2021, 10:20 PM

Had mine since early 2017. Not a single problem with it. I have had it under multiple tunes and many different mods. I did have to lower the settings once I got a ported throttle body. I keep it on SP6 now. Anything higher and it's just ridiculous and makes it impossible to take off from a stop.

Its so weird how some cars it works great and other cars it throws codes like crazy.

camguynj · 07-22-2021, 10:51 PM

Got mine Oct '14 when it first came out, so I've had it now 6 1/2ys with no problems. I try to follow all VTC threads so I'm very familiar with all the reported issues. They seem to be caused mostly by 1) improper install calibration or 2) changing SP settings while driving. Also more automatics than manuals seem to have problems, and what he said above ^^^^.

IMO the pedal sensor seems to like a stable setting. I keep it on SP5 ...like Goldylocks said "just right". SP6 or above with my 3:91 rear and PTB is like holy sheets

I also added a Dyno Steve remote tune about 1k mi ago

with no problems.

LT1Zob · 07-22-2021, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camguynj

Got mine Oct '14 when it first came out, so I've had it now 6 1/2ys with no problems. I try to follow all VTC threads so I'm very familiar with all the reported issues. They seem to be caused mostly by 1) improper install calibration or 2) changing SP settings while driving. Also more automatics than manuals seem to have problems, and what he said above ^^^^.

Thanks for mentioning this. Now it's coming back to me. I remember following these threads years ago and several people specifically warning about not playing with the settings while driving.

Otherwise, thanks everyone. Decision made, it stays until it gives me a reason to throw it away.

Danial · 07-22-2021, 11:48 PM

If you tweak regularly these things have a tendency to go into limp mode but if you set it and leave it alone, you should be relatively ok. I have one. I can't even give it away. No one wants it. I took it off my car about 3 months after I put it on. One limp mode is one too many.

GetSmart · 07-26-2021, 08:34 PM

Had mine on for about 7 years. Never had a problem with it. I always fiddle with it while driving and still runs good.

Jazzzed · 08-07-2021, 11:00 PM

5 years and 50,000 miles with no issues.

07-22-2021, 11:54 AM	#3
SSFury My Road Rage is Legendary Drives: 2011 IOM 2SS/RS "Fury" Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Sahuarita AZ Posts: 735 View My Garage	I ran mine for around 6 years with no issues. Usually left it set around 5. The last six months or so, I started playing racecar a bit more, setting it to 7, and sometimes 9. Within 6 months of really getting on it, it started malfunctioning and kicking the car into limp mode. I had to remove it. I now have a tune, and a tune does NOT do what that did. I fully plan on getting another throttle controller, but next time it will be a Pedal Commander. __________________ Every Time You Buckle Up In That Car, Tonight Might Be The Night That You Die.

07-22-2021, 04:59 PM	#6
LT1Zob Drives: 23 LT1 / 19 Z06 / after 6 5th gens Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: MI Posts: 1,984 View My Garage	Thank you everyone for your input. I’ll leave it in until/if I have an issue. Then I’ll reconsider my options. __________________ "Make yourself sheep and the wolves will eat you"

07-22-2021, 05:30 PM	#7
spyderbuddy Drives: 2010 RS Inferno Orange Metallic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Albany, Ga. Posts: 3,399 View My Garage	on #10 for the last 8 years, you just get use to it. And make a Kick on a RS when set to Sport Mode __________________ PCP Hideaway Headlight Covers, BBK Headers & High Flow Cats, ZL1 Add-ons Wicker Bill, TL1/ZL1 Hood Insert, Gen5 DIY Frameless Mirror, ABL Dash Lighting an My link Navigation, Blacked out Rear Bowtie, all Sylvania led Turn Signals, Ceramic Window Tint By Nicks, MBRP Exhaust tips, GEN5 DIY Virginia Legal DRL Harness, Painted Brake Calipers, Vittesse Throttle Controller, Heritage Grill, Diode Dynamics Led Lighting, Manual Shifter Boot, Paddle Shifters, CNC Throttle Body, Trifecta Tune, RX Catch Can & Breather, Trunk Black out and Side Grills, Chevorlet door Sills.

07-22-2021, 07:47 PM	#8
KillboyPowerhead Drives: 2015 Z/22 Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 930	Had mine for ~6 years; the only issue I had was when I tapped the throttle a couple of times in quick succession and got a code (reduced power, etc.) related to the throttle position sensor not meeting command (not surprising considering what the throttle controller does). Typically keep it on #5, and even with a tune (Overkill) #5 seems much more responsive. As mentioned, worst case use it for now and if it gives you regular issues then stop using it. __________________ Overkill/Self Tuned; Mace Camshafts; K&N Typhoon Cold Air Intake; Ported 80mm Throttle Body/Intake Manifolds/Manifold Spacer; Solo Performance High-Flow Cats, Cat-back Exhaust; Vitesse Motorsports Throttle Controller; Elite Engineering E2 Catch Can; BC Racing BR Coilovers; JPSS Delrin Radius Rod Bushing Inserts, Sway Bars; Pegasus Aluminum Rear Cradle Bushings, Camber/Caster Plates; Z/28 Toe Links, Trailing Arms, Upper Control Arm Bushings, Rear Shock Mounts

07-22-2021, 10:20 PM	#9
InFiD3ViL Drives: 2010 CGM 2SS/RS LS3 Swapped A6 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Spring Hill, FL Posts: 4,570	Had mine since early 2017. Not a single problem with it. I have had it under multiple tunes and many different mods. I did have to lower the settings once I got a ported throttle body. I keep it on SP6 now. Anything higher and it's just ridiculous and makes it impossible to take off from a stop. Its so weird how some cars it works great and other cars it throws codes like crazy. __________________ 2010 CGM Camaro 2SS LS3 Swapped A6 - GPI LS3 SS1 .647/.638, (224/237, 112 +4, 7º overlap) on CamMotion 8620 core, BTR Platinum .660" Dual Spring kit w/titanium retainers, CHE bronze trunnion upgrade, stock heads milled @ .015, Melling HV 10296 oil pump, TSP 1-7/8" long tube headers (W/Catless Off-road Pipes), Corsa Xtreme 3" Catback, GPI Ported/Rod Mod Intake, Stage 2 Ported Throttle Body, Vararam OTR CAI, Mike Norris Gen 2 catch can + GM 1LE clean side separator, 160º thermostat - Megan Racing adjustable coilovers (lowered 1.75"), MRR M017 10/11" wheels-Tuned by Ryan @ GPI

07-21-2021, 10:27 PM	#1
LT1Zob Drives: 23 LT1 / 19 Z06 / after 6 5th gens Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: MI Posts: 1,984 View My Garage	Vitesse TC Longterm Let me start by saying I was never a fan of, nor purchased a throttle controller because I never wanted to mess with a drive by wire system. If I wanted more power without dead spots, I got a tune, ported my TB, hell, I had my supercharger ported too while I was at it. Always thought TCs were nothing more than placebo BS. Fast forward to today. A couple weeks back I picked up a 12 RS from the original owner. Incredibly well maintained and loved car. It has a CAI, Vmax TB, Borla, MGW short-throw and the 2 button (original design) Vitesse throttle controller. The reponse on 5 feels pretty good, not going to lie. I'm fully aware that it provides nothing other than a quicker throttle response, but I don't hate it. Actually thinking of keeping it on the car. This brings up the question. I will be driving this car often and long trips with the wife. Basically, no snow or salt on the ground = I'm enjoying this car. So with that in mind, can you guys share your longterm experience with the Vitesse? CELs? ECU issues that developed over time? Limp mode? Or everything is just fine? It's now been years since this thing came out, so there should be some good, longterm data out there. Thanks in advance (and no YouTube vid links please, I've already watched those). I'm interested in your experience. __________________ "Make yourself sheep and the wolves will eat you"

07-22-2021, 10:31 AM	#2
DRC69 Drives: 2011 RS 2LT Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: So. Cal Posts: 142	Hi, I have the VTC (2 button) setup to on #5. But I think it doesn't play-well with my tune. I like it but. I haven't had any issues. I'm planning on buying a JMS PedalMax to see if it will be a-little smoother. Will see.

07-22-2021, 01:32 PM	#4
crazy4camaro Drives: 2012 RSLT,1979 Trans Am Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: IRB.Florida Posts: 291	I had and enjoyed VTC for a couple years , then for unknown reason started throwing limp mode, stabitrak codes removed it and replaced after about a year with pedal commander

07-22-2021, 03:34 PM	#5
Rainbow1616 Drives: 2011 Inferno Orange Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,368	I have had mine on for about 7 or 8 years. I do have a tune and I have had no issues at all. I typically leave it set at 7

07-22-2021, 10:51 PM	#10
camguynj Drives: '13 SS/RS LS3 BRM Cammed NPP Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: NJ Posts: 3,810 View My Garage	Got mine Oct '14 when it first came out, so I've had it now 6 1/2ys with no problems. I try to follow all VTC threads so I'm very familiar with all the reported issues. They seem to be caused mostly by 1) improper install calibration or 2) changing SP settings while driving. Also more automatics than manuals seem to have problems, and what he said above ^^^^. IMO the pedal sensor seems to like a stable setting. I keep it on SP5 ...like Goldylocks said "just right". SP6 or above with my 3:91 rear and PTB is like holy sheets I also added a Dyno Steve remote tune about 1k mi ago with no problems.

07-22-2021, 11:48 PM	#12
Danial Drives: 2013 SS/RS, 2015 Camaro SS/RS Vert Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Southern Nevada Posts: 2,128 View My Garage	If you tweak regularly these things have a tendency to go into limp mode but if you set it and leave it alone, you should be relatively ok. I have one. I can't even give it away. No one wants it. I took it off my car about 3 months after I put it on. One limp mode is one too many.

07-26-2021, 08:34 PM	#13
GetSmart Drives: 2013 Black SS Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Hawaii Posts: 216 View My Garage	Had mine on for about 7 years. Never had a problem with it. I always fiddle with it while driving and still runs good. __________________ Rotofab CAI, VMAX PTB, Borla S axle-back, Dynatech SuperMaxx 1 7/8" headers/HF cats, No weeds exhaust diverters, Apex air scoop & catch can, Rohana wheels, MPD1 Z-Force Hood, BTR Stage 3 cam, Vitesse Throttle Controller, etc...

08-07-2021, 11:00 PM	#14
Jazzzed Drives: 2015 Camaro LT Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Fox Lake, IL Posts: 393	5 years and 50,000 miles with no issues. __________________