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apowers2k · 12-19-2019, 12:22 PM

Hello, all! I called the phone number on VMAX'S site. The call dials oddly to what appears to be a cell phone voicemail, during which, I do NOT hear the recipient mention VMAX. I also have emailed them (VMAX) and no response. Anybody know what's going on with VMAX? Do they still exist?

I am looking for a new ported throttle body for my 2012 Camaro 2SS, Automatic Convertible, from a vendor that does a core exchange. Thoughts?

Bo White seems fantastic, but I do not think he does core exchanges. So any other thoughts, please, on ported TB vendors who do core exchanges?

Also, any thoughts on the current BBK 1789 (95MM) and 1790 (102M)? I've read that BBK fixed the serious issues those units had years ago. Is this true based on anyone's knowledge or recent personal experience?

Finally, I have a BBK CAI, Granatelli MAF, Magnaflow shorties, and Solo HF cats and SOLO Mach XC. I may upgrade the the intake manifold, but am NOT decided on that yet, at least for the short run.

-- Should I consider the 102MM -- and if I do, will I lose HP and/or torque with the stock intake manifold?

-- Or pick the 95MM, because that will yield better performance?

Both are the same price, more or less, so assuming no one can recommend a ported TB from a vendor who does core exchanges, what do you guys think I should do -- 95 or 102mm?

Or is another brand recommended, aside from BBK? Thank you, all! I look forward to hearing from you.

SSEssence · 12-19-2019, 12:50 PM

https://store.katechengines.com/ls3l...body-p641.aspx

Katech is another option

apowers2k · 12-19-2019, 04:57 PM

Thank you! I saw Katech before, but they do not mention core exchanges and their price is 429.99, which is crazy.

sdynak · 12-19-2019, 05:20 PM

Maybe check with GPI.. they can steer you in the right direction. Not sure bigger is always better.

https://gwatneyperformance.com/produ...body-12605109/

apowers2k · 12-19-2019, 05:38 PM

Thank you. I've seen GPI in my searches. They don't do core exchanges from what I see on their website. While they port your own TB, they take 2 weeks, and we have only 1 car which is used daily. New ported TBs cost $380 there, which is nuts. At that price, it better come with a stripper, lol!

Keep em coming, all! Thank you, again, to those who have responded!

Leo72793 · 12-19-2019, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by apowers2k

Thank you. I've seen GPI in my searches. They don't do core exchanges from what I see on their website. While they port your own TB, they take 2 weeks, and we have only 1 car which is used daily. New ported TBs cost $380 there, which is nuts. At that price, it better come with a stripper, lol!

Keep em coming, all! Thank you, again, to those who have responded!

Bo White on FB. He can do a core exchange. IIRC

Joe M 2012 2SS · 12-19-2019, 07:29 PM

A throttle body will not give you much HP, but will improve throttle response. I have the BW, and my lights at the drag strip improved with it. Changing the intake manifold is also only around 10 hp.

The best mod for your car that you haven't done is a torque converter.

Tajefe Couple · 12-19-2019, 07:30 PM

Bo White FTW and I think he's still around here on occasion. Somebody did have one of his Stage 3 PTB for sale on here not to long ago.
As far as bigger if I understand the "experts" it's really only much of a benefit with FI, or can benefit a little if manifold & air intake is larger to go with it. But don't think it's really much gain without the FI.

apowers2k · 12-19-2019, 07:50 PM

I am waiting for his response on whether he'll do a core exchange with me. Fingers crossed.

HOJO · 12-19-2019, 08:20 PM

If your engine is all stock a larger throttle body will not benefit you, may actually be more of an issue. Hang out to see what BO has to say.

SL33P3R · 12-20-2019, 07:24 AM

PM Bo on here. He got back to me within a couple hours.

gm2376 · 12-20-2019, 07:53 AM

ill have a stage 2 Bo in the spring when i switch out my intake.

Katech_Zach · 12-20-2019, 08:03 AM

We have had great reviews on our CNC ported throttlebody. Like others have said, you will not gain much horsepower from a CNC'd throttlebody. The gain is in throttle response. I chose to use an OEM CNC throttlebody on my track-day 416 build over a 102 for the throttle response.

Camaro2ss2010 · 12-22-2019, 09:29 PM

Bo White still does them and does offer a core exchange I’m pretty sure. You will have better luck contacting him in the newest camaro fest forum. I have a Bo White and wouldn’t trade it for anything else. Nice guy, he is only about 45 minutes from me.

12-19-2019, 12:22 PM	#1
apowers2k Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS Auto Convertible Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 11	Does VMAX still exist? Hello, all! I called the phone number on VMAX'S site. The call dials oddly to what appears to be a cell phone voicemail, during which, I do NOT hear the recipient mention VMAX. I also have emailed them (VMAX) and no response. Anybody know what's going on with VMAX? Do they still exist? I am looking for a new ported throttle body for my 2012 Camaro 2SS, Automatic Convertible, from a vendor that does a core exchange. Thoughts? Bo White seems fantastic, but I do not think he does core exchanges. So any other thoughts, please, on ported TB vendors who do core exchanges? Also, any thoughts on the current BBK 1789 (95MM) and 1790 (102M)? I've read that BBK fixed the serious issues those units had years ago. Is this true based on anyone's knowledge or recent personal experience? Finally, I have a BBK CAI, Granatelli MAF, Magnaflow shorties, and Solo HF cats and SOLO Mach XC. I may upgrade the the intake manifold, but am NOT decided on that yet, at least for the short run. -- Should I consider the 102MM -- and if I do, will I lose HP and/or torque with the stock intake manifold? -- Or pick the 95MM, because that will yield better performance? Both are the same price, more or less, so assuming no one can recommend a ported TB from a vendor who does core exchanges, what do you guys think I should do -- 95 or 102mm? Or is another brand recommended, aside from BBK? Thank you, all! I look forward to hearing from you.

12-19-2019, 12:50 PM	#2
SSEssence Instagram: Sangstah Drives: 2019 Camaro 1LE Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Buena Park, CA. Posts: 2,803 View My Garage	https://store.katechengines.com/ls3l...body-p641.aspx Katech is another option __________________ 2019 SS 1LE - "CaSSandra" 2014 SS - "AleSSandra - Sold" 94 Z28 - Sold Follow the build https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=612717

12-19-2019, 05:20 PM	#4
sdynak Drives: 2010 1SS Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Bayville, NJ Posts: 936	Maybe check with GPI.. they can steer you in the right direction. Not sure bigger is always better. https://gwatneyperformance.com/produ...body-12605109/ __________________ 2010 1SS LS3, Black, 235/250, .621/.615, 114 + 4, Kooks Stepped Headers, 3.91's, Bo White PTB, Flowmaster Mufflers, Cold Air Industries CAI, Apex Scoop & Windshield Washer Relocate, SLP Wheels, Skip Shift Eliminate, Barton Flat Stick, OEM HID/Halos, Dyno Tuned by ECS

12-19-2019, 07:29 PM	#7
Joe M 2012 2SS Drives: 2012 2SS Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Shelby NC Posts: 2,549 View My Garage	A throttle body will not give you much HP, but will improve throttle response. I have the BW, and my lights at the drag strip improved with it. Changing the intake manifold is also only around 10 hp. The best mod for your car that you haven't done is a torque converter. __________________ Roto-Fab intake, SW 1 7/8" LT w/hi flow cats, Flowmaster outlaw exhaust, UDP, 160* stat, Circle D 3200, Moroso catch can, TCI line lock, Zex Nitrous 125 shot, 3.91 gear, Eaton True-trac, DSS 1000hp axles.

12-19-2019, 07:30 PM	#8
Tajefe Couple Drives: Never just fly under the radar Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Kansas Posts: 1,531 View My Garage	Bo White FTW and I think he's still around here on occasion. Somebody did have one of his Stage 3 PTB for sale on here not to long ago. As far as bigger if I understand the "experts" it's really only much of a benefit with FI, or can benefit a little if manifold & air intake is larger to go with it. But don't think it's really much gain without the FI. __________________ 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2 Old Skool

12-19-2019, 04:57 PM	#3
apowers2k Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS Auto Convertible Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 11	Thank you! I saw Katech before, but they do not mention core exchanges and their price is 429.99, which is crazy.

12-19-2019, 05:38 PM	#5
apowers2k Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS Auto Convertible Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 11	Thank you. I've seen GPI in my searches. They don't do core exchanges from what I see on their website. While they port your own TB, they take 2 weeks, and we have only 1 car which is used daily. New ported TBs cost $380 there, which is nuts. At that price, it better come with a stripper, lol! Keep em coming, all! Thank you, again, to those who have responded!

12-19-2019, 07:50 PM	#9
apowers2k Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS Auto Convertible Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 11	I am waiting for his response on whether he'll do a core exchange with me. Fingers crossed.

12-19-2019, 08:20 PM	#10
HOJO Drives: 2014 Camaro SS/RS 1LE 1967 Camaro Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Fort Wayne, IN Posts: 874	If your engine is all stock a larger throttle body will not benefit you, may actually be more of an issue. Hang out to see what BO has to say.

12-20-2019, 07:24 AM	#11
SL33P3R Drives: 2013 Camaro SS Vert Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Otsego, MI Posts: 70	PM Bo on here. He got back to me within a couple hours.

12-20-2019, 07:53 AM	#12
gm2376 Drives: 2010 Black 2ss Camaro SS Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rochester Hills, MI Posts: 1,062	ill have a stage 2 Bo in the spring when i switch out my intake. __________________ ZL1 10 spokes,Dart 388,ECS Supercharger 2200x, E85 Flex Fuel sensor, Dart 388 , B&M Tranny Cooler, Vigilante 4000 Triple Disc TC,Katech Ported Heads, Texas Speed Sheet Metal Intake, ECS Big Blower Cam,ID 1700s, Fore Triple Pumps, E85,ATI Super Dampner, KW V3 Coilovers, Pfadt front and rear sway bars,Pfadt Trailing arms and toe rods,ZL1 Rear Diff, RPM 6l90e level 10 Tranny, SW Long Tubes no cats,Nick Williams Boosted 102mm TB, Dr Phil Tune,Borla Atak

12-20-2019, 08:03 AM	#13
Katech_Zach Drives: 14 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Clinton Twp, MI Posts: 483	We have had great reviews on our CNC ported throttlebody. Like others have said, you will not gain much horsepower from a CNC'd throttlebody. The gain is in throttle response. I chose to use an OEM CNC throttlebody on my track-day 416 build over a 102 for the throttle response.

12-22-2019, 09:29 PM	#14
Camaro2ss2010 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SSRS M6 Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Alabama Posts: 1,249	Bo White still does them and does offer a core exchange I’m pretty sure. You will have better luck contacting him in the newest camaro fest forum. I have a Bo White and wouldn’t trade it for anything else. Nice guy, he is only about 45 minutes from me.