ZL1 vs SHO with Meth and tune - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

cavemansalem · 06-20-2016, 06:44 PM

A buddy has a 2011 Taurus SHO (AWD, twin turbo V6). Put some $$ into an exhaust, methanol injection kit and a basic tune. Took it to the drag strip a couple weeks ago and raced my ZL1 against it. WOW. He. Is. Fast.

Over 7-8 runs I could only beat him by .030. I was consistently in the 12.7-12.9 range @111-114, and he was in the same range but doing 105-109. That AWD gets him off the line quick.

The LSA may sound better, but dang, that SHO is a great sleeper.

camarosspower · 06-20-2016, 07:20 PM

Vids?

2010reddevil · 06-21-2016, 03:28 AM

There is nothing as easy as tweaking a turbo vehicle for more power. Better hope he doesn't get a race tune and exhaust work done. You being at high elevation hurts you for sure. That's the thing about turbos, once a predetermined boost level has been set, the turbo will spool and make boost until that level has been reached, regardless of d/a for the most part. S/C engines would have to pulley down to make up for really negative d/a to compensate. N/A cars are just plain screwed. Needless to say, the EB engines are no slouch. When you can hustle a 5500lb CC F150 to high 12's @ 106 with basic mods and not ever touching anything on the engine internals, that's awesome.

USAFS197 · 06-21-2016, 11:00 AM

Yeah, the same company that did my tune messes with EcoBoost stuff quite a bit. They have an F-150 hustling pretty hard...

I don't recall what all is done to this truck but, if I remember correctly, it's all bolt ons. Stock engine, stock turbo, etc.

2010reddevil · 06-21-2016, 12:23 PM

Not quite, had upgraded compressor wheels, but still, all very basic work really. Would like to see the EB engine in a Fox body. That would be interesting............

Juiced1 · 06-23-2016, 11:09 AM

The Ecoboost is no joke. Like any turbo car, they respond great to mods.

Freddy G · 06-30-2016, 11:37 AM

Isn't ZL1 suppose to be a low 12s or high 11s car? Even the new SS is around 12.3....

havelegs · 07-01-2016, 11:07 AM

Yeah why is that zl1 so slow? don't normal ss's with a few bolt ons run in the high-mid 12s?

Freddy G · 07-01-2016, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by havelegs

Yeah why is that zl1 so slow? don't normal ss's with a few bolt ons run in the high-mid 12s?

I think motor trend tested SS to be 12.3 stock, even gen 5..

rontammy0 · 07-01-2016, 08:20 PM

The 5th gen is not 12.3.....and pro drag racer Jeff Lutz managed 12.2 in the 6th gen auto and 12.4 in the manual....thats a pro racer so average Joe's are not going to get that.

rontammy0 · 07-01-2016, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 6-Speed

Perfect example. Real world vs professional times are way off. You maybe read a high 11 car low 12 car but doing it is different.

Yep. ....its alot harder then it looks thats for sure. Found that out first hand.

GossipSquirrelJelena · 07-02-2016, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by rontammy0

The 5th gen is not 12.3.....and pro drag racer Jeff Lutz managed 12.2 in the 6th gen auto and 12.4 in the manual....thats a pro racer so average Joe's are not going to get that.

Shhhhh don't say that to loud. The guys over on Camaro6 might hear you.It's an 11 second stock car over there all day. I've raced about five 16SS's this year. And the fastest was a 12.3 A8. Under perfect conditions, with a very good driver. I think they can hit 11s. They have the trap speed for it.

rontammy0 · 07-02-2016, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by GossipSquirrelJelena

Shhhhh don't say that to loud. The guys over on Camaro6 might hear you.It's an 11 second stock car over there all day. I've raced about five 16SS's this year and the fastest was a 12.3 A8. Under perfect conditions with a very good driver I think they can hit 11s. They have the trap speed for it.

To late I have a big mouth and dont give a
f $#k haha.

GossipSquirrelJelena · 07-02-2016, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by rontammy0

To late I have a big mouth and dont give a
f $#k haha.

F@&K YA. Knew there was something about you I liked!

06-20-2016, 06:44 PM	#1
cavemansalem Drives: 2017 Black Chevy SS Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Salem Oregon Posts: 17	ZL1 vs SHO with Meth and tune A buddy has a 2011 Taurus SHO (AWD, twin turbo V6). Put some $$ into an exhaust, methanol injection kit and a basic tune. Took it to the drag strip a couple weeks ago and raced my ZL1 against it. WOW. He. Is. Fast. Over 7-8 runs I could only beat him by .030. I was consistently in the 12.7-12.9 range @111-114, and he was in the same range but doing 105-109. That AWD gets him off the line quick. The LSA may sound better, but dang, that SHO is a great sleeper. __________________ 2017 Black Chevy SS

06-21-2016, 03:28 AM	#3
2010reddevil Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Victory Red 6M Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Gulf Coast, TX Posts: 1,424	There is nothing as easy as tweaking a turbo vehicle for more power. Better hope he doesn't get a race tune and exhaust work done. You being at high elevation hurts you for sure. That's the thing about turbos, once a predetermined boost level has been set, the turbo will spool and make boost until that level has been reached, regardless of d/a for the most part. S/C engines would have to pulley down to make up for really negative d/a to compensate. N/A cars are just plain screwed. Needless to say, the EB engines are no slouch. When you can hustle a 5500lb CC F150 to high 12's @ 106 with basic mods and not ever touching anything on the engine internals, that's awesome. __________________ 2011 2SS 6A Red Jewel Metallic, Vararam Tune CAI, Magnaflow 3" Competition c/b, Speed Engineering 1-7/8 LT's, Circle D 5C, M/T 275/40R20 S/S, HPTuners tune by Ryan@GPI 12.3 @ 112 ACM as of 12/22/19 Gone on 12/28/19 R I P 2010 2SS 6M Victory Red/Black (old ride) CAI intake, Speed Engineering 1 7/8" LT's, X4 base tune, Flowmaster Outlaw axle-back. 12.6 @ 115 SAR as of 9/19/15 Gone but never forgotten.

06-21-2016, 12:23 PM	#5
2010reddevil Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Victory Red 6M Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Gulf Coast, TX Posts: 1,424	Not quite, had upgraded compressor wheels, but still, all very basic work really. Would like to see the EB engine in a Fox body. That would be interesting............ __________________ 2011 2SS 6A Red Jewel Metallic, Vararam Tune CAI, Magnaflow 3" Competition c/b, Speed Engineering 1-7/8 LT's, Circle D 5C, M/T 275/40R20 S/S, HPTuners tune by Ryan@GPI 12.3 @ 112 ACM as of 12/22/19 Gone on 12/28/19 R I P 2010 2SS 6M Victory Red/Black (old ride) CAI intake, Speed Engineering 1 7/8" LT's, X4 base tune, Flowmaster Outlaw axle-back. 12.6 @ 115 SAR as of 9/19/15 Gone but never forgotten.

06-20-2016, 07:20 PM	#2
camarosspower Drives: 2010 camaro ss Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Port Arthur, Tx Posts: 2,383	Vids?

06-23-2016, 11:09 AM	#6
Juiced1 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 2SS CAMARO 45th Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: St. Charles, IL Posts: 18,663	The Ecoboost is no joke. Like any turbo car, they respond great to mods.

06-30-2016, 11:37 AM	#7
Freddy G Drives: 2014 Camaro 2SS 1LE /2011 2LT Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Toronto Ontario Posts: 422	Isn't ZL1 suppose to be a low 12s or high 11s car? Even the new SS is around 12.3....

07-01-2016, 11:07 AM	#8
havelegs Drives: '23 LT1 A10 Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 991	Yeah why is that zl1 so slow? don't normal ss's with a few bolt ons run in the high-mid 12s?

07-01-2016, 08:20 PM	#10
rontammy0 Account Suspended Drives: 2011 2SS/ RS INFERNO ORANGE L99 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Alliston Ontario Canada Posts: 9,057 View My Garage	The 5th gen is not 12.3.....and pro drag racer Jeff Lutz managed 12.2 in the 6th gen auto and 12.4 in the manual....thats a pro racer so average Joe's are not going to get that.