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Nick S · 02-12-2015, 02:34 PM

Yes it can add up fast cost wise!

KaBoom1701 · 02-12-2015, 03:29 PM

Now this is the first 1" lowering kit I've seen that looks great for the ZL1!

Firefighter · 02-12-2015, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KaBoom1701

Now this is the first 1" lowering kit I've seen that looks great for the ZL1!

I didn't think of that because I have a 1LE. You are right though...

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Mgizzle · 02-12-2015, 07:16 PM

Pete, how do u drop the spindle center, vertical or on the steering axis? Also, how do you guys analyze or simulate fatigue on those knuckles? Looks like a lot of sharp edges.

*The_Blur* · 02-12-2015, 07:20 PM

Consider me interested in the knuckle drop.

JusticePete · 02-12-2015, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KaBoom1701

Now this is the first 1" lowering kit I've seen that looks great for the ZL1!

The reason this product was designed is the excellence of the suspension systems on the show room floor. MRC and DSSV struts are GREAT PRODUCT. Why would we want to compromise it when we can compliment it?

ZL1 with a Knuckle Drop

Z/28 with a Kncukle Drop

1LE with a Kncukle Drop

SS with a Knuckle Drop

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Originally Posted by Mgizzle

Pete, how do u drop the spindle center, vertical or on the steering axis? Also, how do you guys analyze or simulate fatigue on those knuckles? Looks like a lot of sharp edges.

The bulk of the drop is along the steering axis. The sharp edges are removed in a post operation. The pictures are purely a representative view of what people could expect the part to look similar to and not for evaluation of finished product. With that said the product is designed in a way that keeps the costs down for a billet application and not for a mold to be cast which would only be machined once and amortized over thousands of parts. We could roll all edges with large surface machined edges which would make the part better but instead we beef up cross sections in the weak areas and go through a post process to remove and roll all edges as well as stress reliving at the same time which is not displayed in the pictures. Rest assured we have thought about all of this and have experience with other applications that exceed the stresses that this part would ever see and are so confident in the design there is a money back guarantee.

Thanks for the great question.

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Originally Posted by The_Blur

Consider me interested in the knuckle drop.

tw78911sc · 02-12-2015, 10:48 PM

So if you have a 1" drop on your car now, using these knuckles will restore your suspension travel with the benefits of better spring rates, lower COG, better articulation, less deflection, less sprung weight and full suspension travel?

JusticePete · 02-12-2015, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tw78911sc

So if you have a 1" drop on your car now, using these knuckles will restore your suspension travel with the benefits of better spring rates, lower COG, better articulation, less deflection, less sprung weight and full suspension travel?

Yes, but unsprung weight will remain the same.

Kyle2k · 02-12-2015, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JusticePete

Yes, but unsprung weight will remain the same.

So what is the estimated weight savings of these pieces?

JusticePete · 02-13-2015, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyle2k

So what is the estimated weight savings of these pieces?

None, the OE knuckle is cast aluminum and these are billet aluminum.

JusticePete · 02-13-2015, 08:31 AM

• Direct Factory Part Replacement
• 1” Drop from Factory Knuckle
• Maintains Original Equipment Control Arm Geometry
• Maintains Original Equipment Suspension Travel
• 100% Compatible with Original Equipment Magnetic Ride Control and Adjustable Suspension Damping
• Supports Aftermarket Coilover Suspension Applications
• Machined from Billet 6061 T-6 or 7075 T6 (solutionized and artificially aged) Aluminum
• Original Equipment Elastomeric Bushings are Replaced with Race Ready Rebuildable Monoballs with Spiral Retainers and O-Rings

JDG1LE · 02-13-2015, 08:50 AM

JusticePete, you're a worst tease than my high school girlfriend. Also, your week to get us that ballpark pricing figure is almost up!

Firefighter · 02-13-2015, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by g6t6o

JusticePete, you're a worst tease then my high school girlfriend. Also, your week to get us that ballpark pricing figure is almost up!

LMAO...

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JusticePete · 02-13-2015, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by g6t6o

JusticePete, you're a worst tease then my high school girlfriend. Also, your week to get us that ballpark pricing figure is almost up!

You told her you loved her, didn't you?
More details coming later today

02-12-2015, 02:34 PM	#57
Nick S Drives: 2013 Camaro 1LE Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Verona, WI Posts: 1,924	Yes it can add up fast cost wise! __________________

02-12-2015, 03:29 PM	#58
KaBoom1701 KaBoom1701 Drives: 13' ZL1 Red M6 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: I.E. SoCal (Yucaipa) Posts: 8,630	Now this is the first 1" lowering kit I've seen that looks great for the ZL1! __________________ Mods: Roto-Fab Intake, WW Res. kit & Big Gulp Air Scoop, Elite Catch Can, ATI Super Damper & 18% OD Pulley, LF Idler pulley bracket, Metco CC breather, ID850 Injectors, Stainless Power Headers w/ ceramic coating, TR71X Spark Plugs, JMS Fuel Pump Booster, Bo White TB, Tuned by Ted @ Jannetty Racing, Ron Davis HX, D3 Reservoir, Pfadt 1" Springs, Moreno Camber Plates, ZL1 Addons Splitter guard washers, Tow Hook kit & rock guards, Hurst Shifter Billet Plus 6 Speed Short Shifter, ZL1 DRL lighting harness, ZL1 Recaro Seats.

02-12-2015, 07:16 PM	#60
Mgizzle Drives: 2013 Camaro 1LE 1SS Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Detroit Posts: 1,252	Pete, how do u drop the spindle center, vertical or on the steering axis? Also, how do you guys analyze or simulate fatigue on those knuckles? Looks like a lot of sharp edges. __________________ I work for General Motors and am not an official spokes person for General Motors. My views and opinions are my own and not those of General Motors.

02-12-2015, 07:20 PM	#61
The_Blur Moderator Drives: 2018 Harley-Davidson Street Bob Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 14,769	Consider me interested in the knuckle drop. __________________ RDP Motorsport//GEN5DIY//Cultrag Performance//JPSS//Rodgets Chevrolet// Operation Demon//Buy at Invoice//RACECARWEAR RESPECT ALL CARS. LOVE YOUR OWN. warn 145:159 ban

02-12-2015, 10:48 PM	#63
tw78911sc Drives: 14 1SS Camaro 1LE, NPP, Recaros Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: NC Posts: 819	So if you have a 1" drop on your car now, using these knuckles will restore your suspension travel with the benefits of better spring rates, lower COG, better articulation, less deflection, less sprung weight and full suspension travel?

02-13-2015, 08:31 AM	#67
JusticePete Drives: Camaro Justice Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 20,174	• Direct Factory Part Replacement • 1” Drop from Factory Knuckle • Maintains Original Equipment Control Arm Geometry • Maintains Original Equipment Suspension Travel • 100% Compatible with Original Equipment Magnetic Ride Control and Adjustable Suspension Damping • Supports Aftermarket Coilover Suspension Applications • Machined from Billet 6061 T-6 or 7075 T6 (solutionized and artificially aged) Aluminum • Original Equipment Elastomeric Bushings are Replaced with Race Ready Rebuildable Monoballs with Spiral Retainers and O-Rings

02-13-2015, 08:50 AM	#68
JDG1LE Drives: None Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: CA Posts: 117	JusticePete, you're a worst tease than my high school girlfriend. Also, your week to get us that ballpark pricing figure is almost up!