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Frid · 01-12-2012, 05:53 PM

Been looking into getting the Borla ATAK Catback system for the maro. Also looking into getting a set of shorty headers in the near future. Question I ask is how much of a HP gain am I looking at buying this $1400 exhaust? 10-15, maybe 20? Still searching around but want some opinions. Also can't decide on which headers I want that will get me the best performance for the buck and if it would be smart of me to stick with Borla all the way through for the whole exhaust. Thanks for taking the time to read. And thanks in advance.

LightningSS · 01-12-2012, 05:56 PM

Don't do an exhaust mod for HP gains (you'll never know what they are), do it for the sound. My Borla catback and long-tube headers are by far the best mods I've done to my car.

The Stig · 01-12-2012, 05:59 PM

any mod after the cats is purely for sound. At *most* you'll get 5hp.

Frid · 01-12-2012, 06:03 PM

Should have explained more clearly, my fault. I meant with the full exhaust (headers, catback) how much am I looking at normally?

The Stig · 01-12-2012, 07:01 PM

With shorty headers and the stock tune? Maybe 25-30 to the wheels

bannonm · 01-12-2012, 07:09 PM

I'm not sure how loud the shorties are compared to LTs, but my LTs made it much louder with my S-type exhaust. To the point I'm glad I didn't get the ATAK. It's not the outside noise, it's the cabin noise and drone that gets you. Borlas are drone prone. Have you heard shorties and the ATAK together yet?

VR Baron · 01-12-2012, 08:38 PM

Shortys are about 6-7 and catbacks 5-10 at the wheels generally.Sortys make it a little louder and deeper.Shortys and magnaflow catback on my 98 z28 sounds great

Frid · 01-12-2012, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stieger

With shorty headers and the stock tune? Maybe 25-30 to the wheels

I have a buddy that tunes camaros in atlanta so its something I'm looking into shortly also. I would like to have a few more mods after the exhaust and CAI before I get the tune done, but its definitely something that I will have done.

Mr_Draco · 01-12-2012, 09:09 PM

I would say combined you would get 15-20 at most with no tune.

The dyno's I've seen on shorties have shown about 10 and catbacks generally give 5-10.

Frid · 01-12-2012, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bannonm

I'm not sure how loud the shorties are compared to LTs, but my LTs made it much louder with my S-type exhaust. To the point I'm glad I didn't get the ATAK. It's not the outside noise, it's the cabin noise and drone that gets you. Borlas are drone prone. Have you heard shorties and the ATAK together yet?

No I have not heard it will the shorties, but have heard it with longtubes and the atak. And it sounds incredible. Not too picky on if it drones in the cabin or not. I want to hear it as much as I can

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caverman · 01-13-2012, 07:55 AM

I haven't seen any threads where people have been picking up much at all with shorties. I think it will depend if you use the OEM cats or put on HF cats. It's pretty well know that the biggest restriction in our exhaust is the factory OEM cats. You would get more performance/HP/sound by changing to HF cats and using the factory headers than if you put on shorties and use the factory cats.

I don't know that cat-backs will even get you 5 rwhp. Before I had my headers installed we did a pre-dyno. My car had a cat-back, CAI, and the rear cat removed. It made 378 rwhp on a dyno where most LS3 were making around 370. So, those simple mods netted me about 8 rwhp.

Frid · 01-14-2012, 04:44 AM

I just found my future set up

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SteveRS · 01-14-2012, 05:16 AM

Im going with the ATAK because ive got a Certificate for 50% off any borla product in the catalog.. unfortunately im in Korea right now.. soo not much i can do..

Frid · 01-14-2012, 05:41 AM

I'm stationed in Korea too lol. Where you at?

01-12-2012, 05:53 PM	#1
Frid Drives: '11 Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 3,483	Borla Exhaust Been looking into getting the Borla ATAK Catback system for the maro. Also looking into getting a set of shorty headers in the near future. Question I ask is how much of a HP gain am I looking at buying this $1400 exhaust? 10-15, maybe 20? Still searching around but want some opinions. Also can't decide on which headers I want that will get me the best performance for the buck and if it would be smart of me to stick with Borla all the way through for the whole exhaust. Thanks for taking the time to read. And thanks in advance.

01-12-2012, 05:59 PM	#3
The Stig knows 2 facts about ducks Drives: ...and they're both wrong Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The HMS Invincible Posts: 25,072 View My Garage	any mod after the cats is purely for sound. At most you'll get 5hp. __________________

01-12-2012, 07:01 PM	#5
The Stig knows 2 facts about ducks Drives: ...and they're both wrong Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The HMS Invincible Posts: 25,072 View My Garage	With shorty headers and the stock tune? Maybe 25-30 to the wheels __________________

01-12-2012, 07:09 PM	#6
bannonm Drives: 2011 2SS/RS M6 VR Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 1,536	I'm not sure how loud the shorties are compared to LTs, but my LTs made it much louder with my S-type exhaust. To the point I'm glad I didn't get the ATAK. It's not the outside noise, it's the cabin noise and drone that gets you. Borlas are drone prone. Have you heard shorties and the ATAK together yet? __________________

01-13-2012, 07:55 AM	#11
caverman Drives: '69 SS Convertible Join Date: May 2009 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 7,111	I haven't seen any threads where people have been picking up much at all with shorties. I think it will depend if you use the OEM cats or put on HF cats. It's pretty well know that the biggest restriction in our exhaust is the factory OEM cats. You would get more performance/HP/sound by changing to HF cats and using the factory headers than if you put on shorties and use the factory cats. I don't know that cat-backs will even get you 5 rwhp. Before I had my headers installed we did a pre-dyno. My car had a cat-back, CAI, and the rear cat removed. It made 378 rwhp on a dyno where most LS3 were making around 370. So, those simple mods netted me about 8 rwhp. __________________ *-2010 Camaro* 2SS \| M6 \| VR w/White Stripes \| 1 3/4" KOOKS - 3" Magnaflow \| LPE 3.91 gears \| ADM tuned \| Halltech w/ADM Scoop \| Spohn/BMR Trailing Arm/Toe Rod \| BC Coilovers\| Pedders FE4 ZL1 swaybars \| Cradle/Diff/Radius Rod bushings \| VMax TB \| Morimoto Projectors \| MGW shifter \| Red Calipers Build Journal

01-12-2012, 05:56 PM	#2
LightningSS Drives: WAS '10 SS IBM, NOW '14 BRM ZL1 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: WA Posts: 170	Don't do an exhaust mod for HP gains (you'll never know what they are), do it for the sound. My Borla catback and long-tube headers are by far the best mods I've done to my car.

01-12-2012, 06:03 PM	#4
Frid Drives: '11 Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 3,483	Should have explained more clearly, my fault. I meant with the full exhaust (headers, catback) how much am I looking at normally?

01-12-2012, 08:38 PM	#7
VR Baron SoCal Camaro5 Race Team Drives: 2021 Shadow Grey Camaro 2SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: SO CAL Posts: 14,288	Shortys are about 6-7 and catbacks 5-10 at the wheels generally.Sortys make it a little louder and deeper.Shortys and magnaflow catback on my 98 z28 sounds great

01-12-2012, 09:09 PM	#9
Mr_Draco Drives: 2SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 7,182	I would say combined you would get 15-20 at most with no tune. The dyno's I've seen on shorties have shown about 10 and catbacks generally give 5-10.

01-14-2012, 05:16 AM	#13
SteveRS Drives: 2010 SIM Cobalt SS Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Lorain, Ohio Posts: 6,331	Im going with the ATAK because ive got a Certificate for 50% off any borla product in the catalog.. unfortunately im in Korea right now.. soo not much i can do.. __________________ 2011 Imperial Blue 1.5SS 2010 Silver Ice Cobalt SS

01-14-2012, 05:41 AM	#14
Frid Drives: '11 Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 3,483	I'm stationed in Korea too lol. Where you at?

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