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Arkanian · 09-27-2009, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 2SSRS

What do you mean by this post,

The current installable ABL only runs across the top portion of the door assembly, would be nice for it to go completely around the door assembly as in the pic, completed as a factory install, just my opinion...

2SSRS@Gen5diy · 09-27-2009, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mythic

So what you meant was an engine that doesn't exist.

The LSX-454 is A specific engine. Specifically the one you linked specs for.

If you read up the tech notes for it, GM intended it to be cast iron to handle the bore and power adders

I don't think I'd really want to see the LS3 block bored out to 7.4L
What you really want is this LS3-427 from Mast. I can only wonder about its longevity though.

I will never buy from Mast, And that is not what i meant, It can be done se my Thread http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20935
And this is where it takes you.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...663-611-a.html
That is over 700rwhp and NA car.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheClassicCarKid

LSA, under 4,000 pounds, front and rear sway bars, for under 50K.

Sounds reasonable enough to me.

If that is all that is done on the car it will not sale.

Croatcamaro2010 · 09-27-2009, 11:44 PM

i would say make the seat belt like a jet fighter, where they all clip together on the center of the breast bone, two straps on your left side, two from your right and have them click in the middle, but lets face it, its going to be very similar to ss, only supercharged and hopefully better tune and a better suspension, i can feel the nose dip down too much, but at the same time, its designed for comfort, so its a catch 22, also ive heard that the body will be slightly different, but im all for decreasing her weight.

Croatcamaro2010 · 09-27-2009, 11:47 PM

also lets think about this, the ss is just a tad behind the gt500, if gm is going to send this cobra to the boot factory, there isnt too much that needs to be done to it, however i would like to see a lighter car with a different suspension

2SSRS@Gen5diy · 09-27-2009, 11:50 PM

We will see, but i have one on order as of April.

Punk_rider · 09-28-2009, 04:53 AM

550 hp and transformers2-like front fascia and concept like interior (gauges and seat belts)

alrox · 09-28-2009, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 2SSRS

We will see, but i have one on order as of April.

April is 6 months away, and the rumors/speculation have it being built atleast 12 months after that. You're unrealistic. Don't hold your breath on anything you believe today actually coming true. A lot can change in those 18-24 months.

Tactical Z · 09-28-2009, 07:14 AM

Special colors.

DRK · 09-28-2009, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alrox

April is 6 months away, and the rumors/speculation have it being built atleast 12 months after that. You're unrealistic. Don't hold your breath on anything you believe today actually coming true. A lot can change in those 18-24 months.

I think he means he's had one on order since April, some dealers have had lists for awhile.

I'll be "ordering" (aka putting my deposit down to save my spot in line for an allocation) sometime in October as well.

2SSRS@Gen5diy · 09-28-2009, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alrox

April is 6 months away, and the rumors/speculation have it being built atleast 12 months after that. You're unrealistic. Don't hold your breath on anything you believe today actually coming true. A lot can change in those 18-24 months.

I did mean i am on my dealers list as of April of 09.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRK

I think he means he's had one on order since April, some dealers have had lists for awhile.

I'll be "ordering" (aka putting my deposit down to save my spot in line for an allocation) sometime in October as well.

Thanks that is right.

UsedTaHaveA68 · 09-28-2009, 06:14 PM

I'm not sure why people are trying to bring up pricing from 40 years ago, because it's pretty irrelevent to current prices and economics.

First I'd like to see it priced under a bare-bones Corvette, whatever that is. If they keep it under that I'll be happy.

I'd like to see an updated LSA with forged internals. It would be worth the relatively modest price increase.

Lighter weight forged 20" wheels (there's no way Chevy will put anything smaller on there).

Pedders coilovers and sway bars.

Upgraded axles and, if needed, rear end.

AT LEAST 3.7x rear end ratio.

13" rear brakes so we can fit some smaller rear wheels on there.

And while I know this is completely cost prohibitive and will never happen, I'd like to see carbon fiber hood and fenders to help offset the weight of the supercharger.

I think all of this is economically feasible and functionally logical, so I'd be pretty happy if it had all that.

2cnd chance · 09-28-2009, 09:08 PM

Pedders coilover suspension package
CTS-V Brembos
19" light weight wheels 275's all around
Sportier racing style seats & steering wheel
short throw shifter
Z/28 specific hood, fascia, front/rear spoiler
revised lower rear diffuser with backup lights integrated
DI V8 engine (NA)
free flowing exhaust
optional RS package

rayainsw · 09-30-2009, 05:58 AM

“First I'd like to see it priced under a bare-bones Corvette, whatever that is. If they keep it under that I'll be happy.” - UsedTaHaveA68

The 2010 ‘bare bones’ Corvette Coupe MSRP = $48,930 + $950 destination charge = [ call it ] $50K even.

I think it is absolutely essential that Chevy keep the Z28 ‘significantly’ below that price point – for several reasons.

As I have written elsewhere, I believe that the Z28 will be brought to market for [ at absolute most ] something like $45K MSRP.

I expect that there will be a GGT in the $1,500 to $2,000 range.

Likely more with the 6L90 automatic, if offered.

This would bring the total to $47 – $48K.

And I just do not see any way that Chevy can make a case for a Camaro price any higher.

IMHO, this will probably mean that the LSA will be configured essentially identical to the version already in the CTS-v.

Also IMHO, the modifications to suspension & interior will have to be the absolute minimum required by the additional HP & TQ.

The Corvette will still keep several unique features [ only 2 seats, lower, better suspension, more expensive components – in the suspension & elsewhere – to help keep weight significantly lower than the Camaro ] and a certain element of exclusivity.
And a somewhat higher price point.

Just my predictions.

So: If you want a very high powered Camaro – with a manufacturer warrantee – this could be it.
If you want a lot more than that - I expect that you’d be on your own.

We shall see.
- Ray
Gazing into a cloudy crystal ball?

Scott@Bjorn3D · 09-30-2009, 06:10 AM

Need better axles. Those are snapping and not strong enough. Several members have broken theirs and even in the Camaro book about the 2010 they had problems with breaking them. Even is a picture of a bunch of testers pushing one off the road.

I personaly think launch control is a bad move. Taking a car up to 4K RPM and letting out on the clutch not good move. If not done right the computer is not handling the power and bam their goes the axle.

09-27-2009, 11:44 PM	#45
Croatcamaro2010 Drives: '10 Camaro RS 1LT Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Saint Louis Posts: 322 View My Garage	i would say make the seat belt like a jet fighter, where they all clip together on the center of the breast bone, two straps on your left side, two from your right and have them click in the middle, but lets face it, its going to be very similar to ss, only supercharged and hopefully better tune and a better suspension, i can feel the nose dip down too much, but at the same time, its designed for comfort, so its a catch 22, also ive heard that the body will be slightly different, but im all for decreasing her weight. __________________ Support the CCFA and donate to my fund! http://www.active.com/donate/napa12midastl/stlNBrekal

09-27-2009, 11:47 PM	#46
Croatcamaro2010 Drives: '10 Camaro RS 1LT Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Saint Louis Posts: 322 View My Garage	also lets think about this, the ss is just a tad behind the gt500, if gm is going to send this cobra to the boot factory, there isnt too much that needs to be done to it, however i would like to see a lighter car with a different suspension __________________ Support the CCFA and donate to my fund! http://www.active.com/donate/napa12midastl/stlNBrekal

09-28-2009, 04:53 AM	#48
Punk_rider Drives: VW Typ 166 + Black 1LE Join Date: May 2007 Location: Paris, France Posts: 763	550 hp and transformers2-like front fascia and concept like interior (gauges and seat belts) __________________ I'm kindly asking: "May I have a supercharged Z28 with 550 hp please? By the end of 2009 would be awesome. Thanks"

09-30-2009, 05:58 AM	#55
rayainsw Drives: G8 GT\Corvette Coupe [ gone ] Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Atlanta Posts: 64	price \ performance “First I'd like to see it priced under a bare-bones Corvette, whatever that is. If they keep it under that I'll be happy.” - UsedTaHaveA68 The 2010 ‘bare bones’ Corvette Coupe MSRP = $48,930 + $950 destination charge = [ call it ] $50K even. I think it is absolutely essential that Chevy keep the Z28 ‘significantly’ below that price point – for several reasons. As I have written elsewhere, I believe that the Z28 will be brought to market for [ at absolute most ] something like $45K MSRP. I expect that there will be a GGT in the $1,500 to $2,000 range. Likely more with the 6L90 automatic, if offered. This would bring the total to $47 – $48K. And I just do not see any way that Chevy can make a case for a Camaro price any higher. IMHO, this will probably mean that the LSA will be configured essentially identical to the version already in the CTS-v. Also IMHO, the modifications to suspension & interior will have to be the absolute minimum required by the additional HP & TQ. The Corvette will still keep several unique features [ only 2 seats, lower, better suspension, more expensive components – in the suspension & elsewhere – to help keep weight significantly lower than the Camaro ] and a certain element of exclusivity. And a somewhat higher price point. Just my predictions. So: If you want a very high powered Camaro – with a manufacturer warrantee – this could be it. If you want a lot more than that - I expect that you’d be on your own. We shall see. - Ray Gazing into a cloudy crystal ball?

09-27-2009, 11:50 PM	#47
2SSRS@Gen5diy Drives: 2014 Z/28 #82+#192, 18ZLE 66Nova Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: By the lake in AZ Posts: 15,719 View My Garage	We will see, but i have one on order as of April.

09-28-2009, 07:14 AM	#50
Tactical Z Banned Drives: Nissan Titan Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 8,490	Special colors.

09-28-2009, 06:14 PM	#53
UsedTaHaveA68 Drives: Hyundai Sonata Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 497	I'm not sure why people are trying to bring up pricing from 40 years ago, because it's pretty irrelevent to current prices and economics. First I'd like to see it priced under a bare-bones Corvette, whatever that is. If they keep it under that I'll be happy. I'd like to see an updated LSA with forged internals. It would be worth the relatively modest price increase. Lighter weight forged 20" wheels (there's no way Chevy will put anything smaller on there). Pedders coilovers and sway bars. Upgraded axles and, if needed, rear end. AT LEAST 3.7x rear end ratio. 13" rear brakes so we can fit some smaller rear wheels on there. And while I know this is completely cost prohibitive and will never happen, I'd like to see carbon fiber hood and fenders to help offset the weight of the supercharger. I think all of this is economically feasible and functionally logical, so I'd be pretty happy if it had all that.

09-28-2009, 09:08 PM	#54
2cnd chance Too Many Great Choices Drives: Grand Sport/Z07 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: A Mountain Road Posts: 7,454	Pedders coilover suspension package CTS-V Brembos 19" light weight wheels 275's all around Sportier racing style seats & steering wheel short throw shifter Z/28 specific hood, fascia, front/rear spoiler revised lower rear diffuser with backup lights integrated DI V8 engine (NA) free flowing exhaust optional RS package

09-30-2009, 06:10 AM	#56
Scott@Bjorn3D Drives: Kami, 2013 2SS LS3 Luvin Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Eufaula, Alabama Posts: 6,427	Need better axles. Those are snapping and not strong enough. Several members have broken theirs and even in the Camaro book about the 2010 they had problems with breaking them. Even is a picture of a bunch of testers pushing one off the road. I personaly think launch control is a bad move. Taking a car up to 4K RPM and letting out on the clutch not good move. If not done right the computer is not handling the power and bam their goes the axle.