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90503 · 04-20-2013, 02:37 PM

I would caution a little against harshly bashing HSA in Camaros...I know it's a nuisance for many...

...But in today's world of "Safety" on the road, the solution to this may not be eliminating HSA or improving it, rather the powers that be will think that manual transmissions in passenger cars need to be eliminated...as the "problem" is rolling backwards on a hill...and the best way to "fix" this would be to not have manual transmissions available in the future...

Norm Peterson · 04-20-2013, 07:42 PM

It's not the fact that the Camaro has a HSA system that's the big problem here, it is its current non-defeatable implementation. And that deserves every bit of criticism thrown its way.

Most folks here would be completely satisfied with a way to turn it all the way off either as the default setting (as can currently be done in at least some Fords and Dodges) or as driver-switchable between fully off and on while driving (as it is in at least the 2010 Subaru Legacy). I know I'd be happy.

This is not a big request.

A big request would be to ask all the busy-bodies who are trying to micro-manage our driving all the way down to this level to go find another occupation.

Norm

90503 · 04-20-2013, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Norm Peterson

It's not the fact that the Camaro has a HSA system that's the big problem here, it is its current non-defeatable implementation. And that deserves every bit of criticism thrown its way.

Most folks here would be completely satisfied with a way to turn it all the way off either as the default setting (as can currently be done in at least some Fords and Dodges) or as driver-switchable between fully off and on while driving (as it is in at least the 2010 Subaru Legacy). I know I'd be happy.

This is not a big request.

A big request would be to ask all the busy-bodies who are trying to micro-manage our driving all the way down to this level to go find another occupation.

Norm

Norm, I posted up earlier that an improvement on this HSA is going to be made for the '14s...Saw it in a thread or it was an interview with the re-fresh thing...Can't seem to find it now...lol..

...Anyway, if it's a re-programming thing, it might be do-able on the 13s once they figure it out....

C586 · 04-20-2013, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jd10013

this.

when your towing a boat or something real heavy behind you, it is a huge advantage to not roll backwards on hills.

I've towed over 10k lbs every day for 11 years. I've been fine without it this long. I usually drive my powerstroke or cummins so its incredibly annoying to hop in the Chevy and be like wtf mate why won't it go. I drove the 3500 and it does have but it doesn't work as harshly as the 1500. Seems to apply less I guess you could say. It still rolls backwards just slow for the 2 seconds. If I could turn it off I would without a doubt.

Norm Peterson · 04-20-2013, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 90503

Norm, I posted up earlier that an improvement on this HSA is going to be made for the '14s...Saw it in a thread or it was an interview with the re-fresh thing...Can't seem to find it now...lol..

...Anyway, if it's a re-programming thing, it might be do-able on the 13s once they figure it out....

I saw something in a thread, and that it was NOT going to be available as a backfit to the 2013. That doesn't mean that an electronic tweak is impossible.

Norm

90503 · 04-21-2013, 11:12 AM

Just saw a thread from a guy who figured out a way to "dis-able" HSA...then his thread mysteriously disappeared...lol...????...oh, well...

Firefighter · 04-22-2013, 09:09 AM

HSA is doable but it sucks...

Sent from my friggin Droid by two thumbs using Tapatalk 2 or whatever the ish it's called....

Blu Ray · 04-22-2013, 12:03 PM

I have a 13 and its truly a NUSANCE, it locks the wheel in both directions, so as the OP explains your trying to go but the system locks everthing when it releases you get spin, i and feels like your jerking the car

daytripper · 04-22-2013, 01:01 PM

I obviously dont have HSA on my 2012 Camaro. I do have it on my '13 Shelby GT500. I am in E.TN with lots of hills. It works flawlessly and can be turned off by owner.
I like it !

Dupree878 · 04-24-2013, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by daytripper

I obviously dont have HSA on my 2012 Camaro. I do have it on my '13 Shelby GT500. I am in E.TN with lots of hills. It works flawlessly and can be turned off by owner.
I like it !

It works differently in the Mustang.
You'd no doubt hate it on your Camaro

Norm Peterson · 04-24-2013, 07:05 AM

A few complaints concerning HSA have surfaced on the Mustang forums - I copied the procedure for turning it off from one forum and pasted it to a thread on another forum only yesterday.

But it's nothing like the commotion that goes on here. Not even close.

Norm

Lickwid Apex · 04-30-2013, 02:27 AM

I apologize for resurecting an old thread. Every google search I attempt leads me back to Camaro5 and a handful of threads of 2013 owners who want to know how to disable or remove this 'feature'.
Subscribed.
I was unaware HSA even existed until I stalled on a hill because of it and was almost love tapped from behind. I don't need this. I want to turn it off.

45THanniversarySS · 04-30-2013, 05:55 AM

ok this is what you do (dont really take my advise unless ur a bada$$ like me) when the cop pulls you over, act drunk...when he ask you to step out, you get out, cock back your strong hand and chop him in the throat for wasting your time.

or option number 2 (my personal favorite) Show that mother F'er how you drive and what a camaro can do...Because i bet he is either in a crown vic or that 4 door wanna be muscle car, whats that thing called...hmmmm, o yea the charger (honestly what was dodge thinking?) and we all know how good pigs drive...and fly...and if your a cop and this offends you just calm down its a joke but if you pull me over be ready to get a judo chop lol

heRS · 04-30-2013, 09:27 AM

Well that's probably not a good answer, 45th. Violence doesn't solve hill brake assist problems.
The hill brake on my 83 subaru station wagon worked very well. It released as soon as you let the clutch off and away you went. Do I need help with this? Not really. I drove the car for 3 years before I found a great subaru mechanic who saw that it wasn't working and fixed it for me. Did it change how I drove? Not really, but it was a cool feature. If you roll back into someone on a hill it's their fault anyway for being too close.
I've never gotten to drive the Camaro with hill brake but it sounds like they didn't quite get it right.

04-22-2013, 09:09 AM	#63
Firefighter Drives: Black '13 2SS/RS/1LE w/NPP/NAV Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Tampa by way of Miami... Posts: 4,934	HSA is doable but it sucks... Sent from my friggin Droid by two thumbs using Tapatalk 2 or whatever the ish it's called.... __________________ My Build Thread... http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=285054

04-22-2013, 12:03 PM	#64
Blu Ray ALWAYS-N-BOOST Drives: 2021 ZLE A10 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Alpine, NJ Posts: 2,376	I have a 13 and its truly a NUSANCE, it locks the wheel in both directions, so as the OP explains your trying to go but the system locks everthing when it releases you get spin, i and feels like your jerking the car __________________ 2012 1LS M6 Black-Sold 2013 2LT M6 BluRay- Sold 2015 1SS 1LE M6 Black-Sold 2021 ZLE A10 Riverside Blue - Awaiting Arrival 01/10

04-30-2013, 05:55 AM	#69
45THanniversarySS Builder of fast cars Drives: 2012 2SS 45TH Anniverary Edition Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: FT. CAMPBELL KY Posts: 223	ok this is what you do (dont really take my advise unless ur a bada$$ like me) when the cop pulls you over, act drunk...when he ask you to step out, you get out, cock back your strong hand and chop him in the throat for wasting your time. or option number 2 (my personal favorite) Show that mother F'er how you drive and what a camaro can do...Because i bet he is either in a crown vic or that 4 door wanna be muscle car, whats that thing called...hmmmm, o yea the charger (honestly what was dodge thinking?) and we all know how good pigs drive...and fly...and if your a cop and this offends you just calm down its a joke but if you pull me over be ready to get a judo chop lol __________________

04-30-2013, 09:27 AM	#70
heRS Raised by Wolves Drives: IBM 2010 2LT RS M6 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 5,980 View My Garage	Well that's probably not a good answer, 45th. Violence doesn't solve hill brake assist problems. The hill brake on my 83 subaru station wagon worked very well. It released as soon as you let the clutch off and away you went. Do I need help with this? Not really. I drove the car for 3 years before I found a great subaru mechanic who saw that it wasn't working and fixed it for me. Did it change how I drove? Not really, but it was a cool feature. If you roll back into someone on a hill it's their fault anyway for being too close. I've never gotten to drive the Camaro with hill brake but it sounds like they didn't quite get it right. __________________ Tori click the sig pic to view my build thread

04-20-2013, 02:37 PM	#57
90503 Drives: 2011 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Torrance Posts: 14,427	I would caution a little against harshly bashing HSA in Camaros...I know it's a nuisance for many... ...But in today's world of "Safety" on the road, the solution to this may not be eliminating HSA or improving it, rather the powers that be will think that manual transmissions in passenger cars need to be eliminated...as the "problem" is rolling backwards on a hill...and the best way to "fix" this would be to not have manual transmissions available in the future...

04-20-2013, 07:42 PM	#58
Norm Peterson corner barstool sitter Drives: 08 Mustang GT, 19 WRX Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Eastern Time Zone Posts: 6,990	It's not the fact that the Camaro has a HSA system that's the big problem here, it is its current non-defeatable implementation. And that deserves every bit of criticism thrown its way. Most folks here would be completely satisfied with a way to turn it all the way off either as the default setting (as can currently be done in at least some Fords and Dodges) or as driver-switchable between fully off and on while driving (as it is in at least the 2010 Subaru Legacy). I know I'd be happy. This is not a big request. A big request would be to ask all the busy-bodies who are trying to micro-manage our driving all the way down to this level to go find another occupation. Norm

04-21-2013, 11:12 AM	#62
90503 Drives: 2011 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Torrance Posts: 14,427	Just saw a thread from a guy who figured out a way to "dis-able" HSA...then his thread mysteriously disappeared...lol...????...oh, well...

04-22-2013, 01:01 PM	#65
daytripper Drives: IOM 2012 1SS m6 Join Date: May 2011 Location: east tenn Posts: 198	I obviously dont have HSA on my 2012 Camaro. I do have it on my '13 Shelby GT500. I am in E.TN with lots of hills. It works flawlessly and can be turned off by owner. I like it !

04-24-2013, 07:05 AM	#67
Norm Peterson corner barstool sitter Drives: 08 Mustang GT, 19 WRX Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Eastern Time Zone Posts: 6,990	A few complaints concerning HSA have surfaced on the Mustang forums - I copied the procedure for turning it off from one forum and pasted it to a thread on another forum only yesterday. But it's nothing like the commotion that goes on here. Not even close. Norm

04-30-2013, 02:27 AM	#68
Lickwid Apex OD Drives: '18 Challenger R/T Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Texas Posts: 65	I apologize for resurecting an old thread. Every google search I attempt leads me back to Camaro5 and a handful of threads of 2013 owners who want to know how to disable or remove this 'feature'. Subscribed. I was unaware HSA even existed until I stalled on a hill because of it and was almost love tapped from behind. I don't need this. I want to turn it off.