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diddiyo · 11-27-2008, 09:16 AM

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/11/27/b...harged-m-cars/

Quote:

After two decades of normally-aspirated high-revving engines shoehorned under the hoods of its M cars, BMW is changing direction and will begin to offer direct-injection turbocharged powerplants in its future high-performance flagships.

are others to follow?

Congoman775 · 11-27-2008, 09:28 AM

I think others will follow, it allows a smaller more efficient engine to produce power that normally was impossible. Plus the turbos from the factory are generally very efficient.

Porsche has gone bi-turbo as well in the new 911

rayhawk · 11-27-2008, 10:09 AM

I think there will always be a stigma to turbo engines, and that a lot of people (and manufacturers) will shy away from them based on longevity concerns-especially in high output form. I personally prefer the simplicity and lower overall cost of a NA motor. Then again a turbocharged car has a lot of potential so I can see why people like them.

Congoman775 · 11-27-2008, 10:20 AM

i think you will find the turbos in more expensive cars, they can afford to put it all together and back it up.

Grape Ape · 11-27-2008, 12:12 PM

I saw some claims on the BMW boards that 335s produced after the new M3 was released are slower Alegedly because 335's flatter torque curve makes it feel almost as quick as the m3, which might make the M3 feel a little overpriced when you test drive them back to back a cost BMW some revenue.

I'm glad to hear that the long term fix is to make the Ms faster.

MerF · 11-27-2008, 09:55 PM

Brilliant move on BMW's part. Nothing gets worse with a turbo...but I'm a junkie.

*TAG UR IT* · 11-28-2008, 12:27 AM

Yes. Others WILL follow.

cosmin haraga · 11-28-2008, 06:35 AM

i have diesel in the only ? country in the world that diesel is more expensive than gas.
diesel, even turbo is for trucks or light play planes , they are generally to heavy for cars .

MerF · 11-28-2008, 07:00 AM

Diesel is more expensive than gas in the US now as well. It didn't used to be, but for the last 3 years or so it has been.

*DGthe3* · 11-28-2008, 10:34 PM

And Mercedes is switching from V12's to V8's. However, Honda is said to be working on a V8.

11-27-2008, 10:09 AM	#3
rayhawk Drives: Camaro SS Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 1,060 View My Garage	I think there will always be a stigma to turbo engines, and that a lot of people (and manufacturers) will shy away from them based on longevity concerns-especially in high output form. I personally prefer the simplicity and lower overall cost of a NA motor. Then again a turbocharged car has a lot of potential so I can see why people like them. __________________

11-28-2008, 10:34 PM	#10
DGthe3 Moderator.ca Drives: 05 Grand Am GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Niagara, Canada Posts: 25,372	And Mercedes is switching from V12's to V8's. However, Honda is said to be working on a V8. __________________ Note, if I've gotten any facts wrong in the above, just ignore any points I made with them __________________ Originally Posted by FbodFather My sister's dentist's brother's cousin's housekeeper's dog-breeder's nephew sells coffee filters to the company that provides coffee to General Motors...... ........and HE WOULD KNOW!!!! __________________ Camaro Fest sub-forum

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11-27-2008, 09:28 AM	#2
Congoman775 Drives: Muscle Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 1,315	I think others will follow, it allows a smaller more efficient engine to produce power that normally was impossible. Plus the turbos from the factory are generally very efficient. Porsche has gone bi-turbo as well in the new 911

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Congoman775 Drives: Muscle Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 1,315	i think you will find the turbos in more expensive cars, they can afford to put it all together and back it up.

11-27-2008, 12:12 PM	#5
Grape Ape Drives: 96 Bronco w/ a 5 speed Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: PNW Posts: 296	I saw some claims on the BMW boards that 335s produced after the new M3 was released are slower Alegedly because 335's flatter torque curve makes it feel almost as quick as the m3, which might make the M3 feel a little overpriced when you test drive them back to back a cost BMW some revenue. I'm glad to hear that the long term fix is to make the Ms faster.

11-27-2008, 09:55 PM	#6
MerF Go Rays! Drives: 03 Trailblazer Join Date: May 2007 Location: St Pete, Florida Posts: 2,533	Brilliant move on BMW's part. Nothing gets worse with a turbo...but I'm a junkie.

11-28-2008, 12:27 AM	#7
TAG UR IT www.Camaro5store.com Drives: 2014 ZL1 #705 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SA, Texas Posts: 26,558 View My Garage	Yes. Others WILL follow.

11-28-2008, 06:35 AM	#8
cosmin haraga Drives: AlfaRomeo 147 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Romania Posts: 127	i have diesel in the only ? country in the world that diesel is more expensive than gas. diesel, even turbo is for trucks or light play planes , they are generally to heavy for cars .

11-28-2008, 07:00 AM	#9
MerF Go Rays! Drives: 03 Trailblazer Join Date: May 2007 Location: St Pete, Florida Posts: 2,533	Diesel is more expensive than gas in the US now as well. It didn't used to be, but for the last 3 years or so it has been.