Someone called my 2LS "All show and no go." - Page 19 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

rontammy0 · 09-17-2014, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Q'smuscle

Yup , he brings the truth for the one minded ppl!

NJScorpio · 09-17-2014, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nessal

Why does it matter if it can "host" a platform like the Z/28? What matters is what is in the car now and it's not a Z/28.

Also depends on the situation. I think it would be quite entertaining in itself to keep up with a car that typically isn't in the class of cars that your's is in...I.E. sleepers. If you smoke an Accord in a Camaro, it's expected. However, the other way around will sure bring up a bunch of WTF?!?!?

It'd be fun to smoke a Camaro in a jet powered wheelbarrow, but not more fun to drive.

An Accord is designed around a bottom line, mass appeal, and tailored to highest volume model. You may have a fast Accord, but it's still an Accord. Or, wait, are you borrowing your mom's Accord. I can't tell them apart (I kid).

With the V6 Camaro, the reason why the platform matters is you have something you know is designed to handle more than you can give it, so you can comfortably push it, and it's very stable at high speed highway driving. You get all the design benefits of a car that costs much more, not paying more to drive a faster version of car not designed with performance in mind.

Look at the MazdaSpeed3. You take a car designed to be small and economical, drop in as much power as you can, and you have torque steer that is sending people into guardrails.

Also, your view seems centered around racing people in a sleeper...which is not something that interests me. So, since I wouldn't be "smoking" Camaros at street lights, I'd just be sitting there, driving an Accord.

NJScorpio · 09-17-2014, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Nessal

I never said that V6 is bad. All I'm saying is that the title of the thread does hold some truth. Like someone said earlier. I suppose performance is subjective. IMO, 14's in the quarter just isn't fast. Some others may feel that it is.

Oh, I agree that there is some truth to the statement.

I just took issue with the "no" oart...it's like I said prior, "All show and some go"

JohnnyBfromPeoria · 09-17-2014, 11:48 PM

"All show and no go."

Funny...people don't say that about my 1LS.

John B.

CamaroCracka · 09-18-2014, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TXLS3

So the corvette isn't even a sports car because it's a chevy.. That's the point your trying to make?

And what do you call a camaro with 600hp race tuned?

There are lots of people who don't feel the Corvette is a sports car because of its size, at least not the first few generations.

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Originally Posted by TXLS3

So performance and fuel saving exist in your reality?
Because in my world it's one or the other. Which is why I have this for weekdays 38mpg is fuel economy son. Fuel economy during the week performance for the weekend.

I see his point on this. He probably can't afford a second car and doesn't want a grocery getter. I drove a 71 Barracuda to school, but when I finally got tired of dealing with dding a hot rod ended up buying a Ford Ranger for the commute. He doesn't want to do that, so he chose a car in the middle.

Norm Peterson · 09-18-2014, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Nessal

Why does it matter if it can "host" a platform like the Z/28? What matters is what is in the car now and it's not a Z/28.

What matters is that the basic goodness of the platform is there if/when you decide to add in more performance on your own.

Incidentally, it's a rather narrow view to look at straight line acceleration as the only measure of a car's performance. I won't go into detail here, but I'd choose to own a 14 second car equipped a certain way over a 12 second car identically equipped except for one difference. Every single time.

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Also depends on the situation. I think it would be quite entertaining in itself to keep up with a car that typically isn't in the class of cars that your's is in...I.E. sleepers.

I can sort of agree with this, except that I'm a whole lot more impressed when I can keep up with supposedly more capable cars on a road course. Just a few seconds at a time of mindless right-foot-to-the-floor doesn't do much for me, and apparently not for NJScorpio either.

Norm

ytown87 · 09-18-2014, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by sspolo

Wow 10 pages.

no...11 soon to be 12 pages of nothingness

from the OP upset his car was called slow. to the typical V6 vs V8 debate. then we spent yesterday on the classification of the Camaro being a sports car or not. then the embarrassing debate on which is faster between a Camry or V6 Camaro. followed by convincing each other what is considered "fast" anymore now.

xinfamousxi · 09-18-2014, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ytown87

no...11 soon to be 12 pages of nothingness

from the OP upset his car was called slow. to the typical V6 vs V8 debate. then we spent yesterday on the classification of the Camaro being a sports car or not. then the embarrassing debate on which is faster between a Camry or V6 Camaro. followed by convincing each other what is considered "fast" anymore now.

I'm new here, so don't know how things really run, but don't mods usually come in by now and close the place down?

ytown87 · 09-18-2014, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by xinfamousxi

I'm new here, so don't know how things really run, but don't mods usually come in by now and close the place down?

maybe trying to set a record for most topics and pages in a single thread ever?

NJScorpio · 09-18-2014, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ytown87

maybe trying to set a record for most topics and pages in a single thread ever?

Topic #72: What warrants a thread being closed by a moderator?

Squillo · 09-18-2014, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by NJScorpio

Topic #72: What warrants a thread being closed by a moderator?

It deserved to be closed on day one

NJScorpio · 09-18-2014, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Squillo

It deserved to be closed on day one

Because?

EDIT: I mean, I get that the subject of V6 vs V8 has been beat to death on this board, but that isn't what this topic was about (per se).

It was about a comment from a non-owner...and I think it actually sparked an interesting discussion about what qualifies as "no go".

mariojmoe · 09-18-2014, 09:32 AM

All we need now is a hybrid underpowered V8 in the Camaro then WE can all have someone to bash. Man I wonder what the V8 vs V6 threads would look like then.

FloridaBill · 09-18-2014, 10:31 AM

The difference between the V6 & V8 for me is the amount of jail time I don't serve. Love my Camaro, handles the road really well and gets to the speed limit in a hurry.

I don't really care what anyone else thinks about it.

09-17-2014, 11:48 PM	#256
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09-18-2014, 10:31 AM	#266
FloridaBill Drives: 2022 2SS 1LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: St Augustine, Florida Posts: 547	The difference between the V6 & V8 for me is the amount of jail time I don't serve. Love my Camaro, handles the road really well and gets to the speed limit in a hurry. I don't really care what anyone else thinks about it. __________________ 8/27:Ordered 2022 Vivid Orange Metallic 2SS1LE 11/09:Built 12/4:Took it home

09-18-2014, 09:32 AM	#265
mariojmoe Account Suspended Drives: C7 Z06 manual, 18 Zl1 manual, etc Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Spring Texas Posts: 1,488	All we need now is a hybrid underpowered V8 in the Camaro then WE can all have someone to bash. Man I wonder what the V8 vs V6 threads would look like then.