2010 broke valve spring @ 56k miles. - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Race4Keep · 09-27-2016, 10:44 PM

Evening all, pulling into work the other day my 2010 SS started to misfire then knock. I had it towed to the dealer and they said a valve spring broke and I needed a new motor and quoted me $7,300. I've seen a number of forum post about some people experiencing this. Since mine is out of warranty Chevy kindly declined to help out in any way. I am not the original owner of the car.

I'm curious since you all are not the ones with a $19,000 boat anchor and are less biased. Do you think it's the right thing for Chevy to do? Do you think they don't owe me anything? I didn't expect them to cover it but it would have been nice if they did something. I don't understand how business can build a loyal customer base without returning the loyalty in extreme cases like this. If it was a minor repair, I wouldn't have thought twice about it but to have to replace and entire motor in 56k miles... That I cannot handle and I'm now probably going to buy a cheap car of craigslist while I save up to fix my camaro.

Scott@Bjorn3D · 09-28-2016, 05:38 AM

Car is out of drive train warranty. They won't do anything for you. Kind of sucks since they say the cover the motor to 100,000 miles.

This is the reason I will not own my Camaro after next October unless for some stupid reason I decided to by an extended warranty.

Ledzepx · 09-28-2016, 07:42 AM

Is the engine stock? If so a Broken valve spring doesnt mean you need a new engine. Unless more damage was done when it broke. I would get a second Opinion. Sounds like there gonna rip you off.

acammer · 09-28-2016, 08:21 AM

A turn key LS3 from Jegs is $6500 bucks - just for comparisons sake. And you very likely don't need to replace everything. A broken spring can do a lot of damage to the head, piston, and bore if it dropped the valve and made contact with the piston. If run for very long after failure those bits of metal find there way into all sorts of places, so without being able to fully evaluate the engine it's hard to know all what has/hasn't been hurt. Probably needs a new head/piston and some work on the bore at a minimum. Still, $7,300 sounds way to steep, I'd contact a local shop that specializes in performance/aftermarket and see what they could offer - I would imagine you have some good options in Austin.

frankwjr · 09-28-2016, 08:33 AM

Can you wrench? These cars are so easy to work on....look the simple fact of the matter is you bought the car fully aware no warranty, right? So to bash after the fact is meh...

ONLY if there had been a recall due to factory failure and the manufacture extended something would you have an option...

That dealer will prob male $2000 plus for labor and parts mark up....as stated before damage COULD be minimal all things considered...rebuild the bitch and then you will KNOW what you have....these cars are so freakin fun...peace out...

hammdo · 09-28-2016, 09:17 AM

First, sorry that happened to you. Its and unfortunate luck of the draw. A few have had that happen. GM is very unlikely to do anything since the power train warranty has expired. Dealer's usually offer an extended warranty, but if you elected to not buy one, then they will be disinclined to do anything to help you out.

If you can work on cars, you may be able to pull the heads to see what really happened and if a new engine is needed, but, if not, maybe one of the local shops can verify you really do need a new engine and possible set you up.

These are easy cars to work on for sure, but you still need to have the service manuals to do any job 'correctly'.

If you really like the car (and the vast majority of us do), then saving up for the fix is the right direction. You can get an LSX version installed, just an option, if you think you'll ever go 'mod' crazy ;o)

Keep us posted...

-Don

motorhead · 09-28-2016, 09:25 AM

If the car is out of warranty it's out of warranty. Why would you expect any manufacturer to cover a failure out of a warranty that you knew about at the time of purchase? It sucks with only 50 some thousand miles to have a major failure , but life sucks sometimes. If you are that upset, don't buy any more GM products. That is the only leverage as consumers that we have against companies.

Race4Keep · 09-28-2016, 04:59 PM

Yes, the car is stock. I am pulling the head now and plan to fix it myself. Just tough cause this is my daily driver.

The reason I feel GM should offer me *some* sort of help is there seems to be a number of these yellow valve springs breaking, there are quite a number of posts about it on different website forums. This appears to be a known issue and GM has changed them out in newer version of the LS3.

DrkPhx · 09-28-2016, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by motorhead

If the car is out of warranty it's out of warranty. Why would you expect any manufacturer to cover a failure out of a warranty that you knew about at the time of purchase? It sucks with only 50 some thousand miles to have a major failure , but life sucks sometimes. If you are that upset, don't buy any more GM products. That is the only leverage as consumers that we have against companies.

It wouldn't hurt to contact GM (not the dealer) and ask for help. I've had them fix issues on two different cars that were out of warranty.

Race4Keep · 09-28-2016, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrkPhx

It wouldn't hurt to contact GM (not the dealer) and ask for help. I've had them fix issues on two different cars that were out of warranty.

I have, all they do is keep replying that the car is out of warranty.

Race4Keep · 10-01-2016, 01:38 PM

If there is such a thing as being lucky in this scenario, I guess I am. New piston and head and I should be back on the road again. Definitely replacing the springs on the other side though too!

Yknjack · 10-01-2016, 01:53 PM

Bad to have happened but good pictures

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Gearheaded · 10-01-2016, 01:58 PM

Good deal man! Glad it was minimal all things considered.

Switches · 10-04-2016, 08:35 PM

This exact thing happens to my 2010 ss I bought. Seems to be an issue with early LS3's. I was told by the dealer GM is aware of the issue but not enough for a recall? I Only owned 2 months and 1500 miles. Car had 44,700 miles. Spring broke , dropped valve . Cracked cylinder ,piston and did the same thing to the valve. Even shot broken head pieces up into the plenum. Dealer gave a 3000 or 3 month warrenty when I bought it. They covered the repair. New GM ls3 crate engine. Covers parts and labor up to the sum of $8569.79. My cost was 100 bucks.

09-27-2016, 10:44 PM	#1
Race4Keep Drives: Red 2010 SS M6 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4	2010 broke valve spring @ 56k miles. Evening all, pulling into work the other day my 2010 SS started to misfire then knock. I had it towed to the dealer and they said a valve spring broke and I needed a new motor and quoted me $7,300. I've seen a number of forum post about some people experiencing this. Since mine is out of warranty Chevy kindly declined to help out in any way. I am not the original owner of the car. I'm curious since you all are not the ones with a $19,000 boat anchor and are less biased. Do you think it's the right thing for Chevy to do? Do you think they don't owe me anything? I didn't expect them to cover it but it would have been nice if they did something. I don't understand how business can build a loyal customer base without returning the loyalty in extreme cases like this. If it was a minor repair, I wouldn't have thought twice about it but to have to replace and entire motor in 56k miles... That I cannot handle and I'm now probably going to buy a cheap car of craigslist while I save up to fix my camaro.

09-28-2016, 07:42 AM	#3
Ledzepx Drives: 2010 2SS Camaro 6sp. Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: South Jersey Posts: 639	Is the engine stock? If so a Broken valve spring doesnt mean you need a new engine. Unless more damage was done when it broke. I would get a second Opinion. Sounds like there gonna rip you off. __________________ www.rsconversions.com

09-28-2016, 08:21 AM	#4
acammer GPI Sales Consultant Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS SGM Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Weedsport, NY Posts: 2,794 View My Garage	A turn key LS3 from Jegs is $6500 bucks - just for comparisons sake. And you very likely don't need to replace everything. A broken spring can do a lot of damage to the head, piston, and bore if it dropped the valve and made contact with the piston. If run for very long after failure those bits of metal find there way into all sorts of places, so without being able to fully evaluate the engine it's hard to know all what has/hasn't been hurt. Probably needs a new head/piston and some work on the bore at a minimum. Still, $7,300 sounds way to steep, I'd contact a local shop that specializes in performance/aftermarket and see what they could offer - I would imagine you have some good options in Austin. __________________ GPI Max Package 2.0: Brodix BR7 heads/GPI porting, MAX3 cam, ST2116LSR, BSR Max Lift rockers, LS7 LSXR with 103mm TB, Vararam OTR, Mcleod RXT, G-Force/Strange 9" IRS setup with 4.63 gear. 551whp, 11.1@124mph. *Got a question about a GPI product? Feel free to shoot me a message!*

09-28-2016, 08:33 AM	#5
frankwjr Drives: 2010 SS 2SS M6 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Smithsburg, Md. Posts: 2,445	Can you wrench? These cars are so easy to work on....look the simple fact of the matter is you bought the car fully aware no warranty, right? So to bash after the fact is meh... ONLY if there had been a recall due to factory failure and the manufacture extended something would you have an option... That dealer will prob male $2000 plus for labor and parts mark up....as stated before damage COULD be minimal all things considered...rebuild the bitch and then you will KNOW what you have....these cars are so freakin fun...peace out... __________________ 2010 SS 2SS M6 - Tune by RDP dynoSteve!(Woot) - Daily Driver - *150K!* - All work by me...

09-28-2016, 09:17 AM	#6
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,694 View My Garage	First, sorry that happened to you. Its and unfortunate luck of the draw. A few have had that happen. GM is very unlikely to do anything since the power train warranty has expired. Dealer's usually offer an extended warranty, but if you elected to not buy one, then they will be disinclined to do anything to help you out. If you can work on cars, you may be able to pull the heads to see what really happened and if a new engine is needed, but, if not, maybe one of the local shops can verify you really do need a new engine and possible set you up. These are easy cars to work on for sure, but you still need to have the service manuals to do any job 'correctly'. If you really like the car (and the vast majority of us do), then saving up for the fix is the right direction. You can get an LSX version installed, just an option, if you think you'll ever go 'mod' crazy ;o) Keep us posted... -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577

09-28-2016, 05:38 AM	#2
Scott@Bjorn3D Drives: Kami, 2013 2SS LS3 Luvin Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Eufaula, Alabama Posts: 6,427	Car is out of drive train warranty. They won't do anything for you. Kind of sucks since they say the cover the motor to 100,000 miles. This is the reason I will not own my Camaro after next October unless for some stupid reason I decided to by an extended warranty.

09-28-2016, 09:25 AM	#7
motorhead Drives: Love the one you're with Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Downtown Charlie Brown Posts: 11,850	If the car is out of warranty it's out of warranty. Why would you expect any manufacturer to cover a failure out of a warranty that you knew about at the time of purchase? It sucks with only 50 some thousand miles to have a major failure , but life sucks sometimes. If you are that upset, don't buy any more GM products. That is the only leverage as consumers that we have against companies.

09-28-2016, 04:59 PM	#8
Race4Keep Drives: Red 2010 SS M6 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4	Yes, the car is stock. I am pulling the head now and plan to fix it myself. Just tough cause this is my daily driver. The reason I feel GM should offer me some sort of help is there seems to be a number of these yellow valve springs breaking, there are quite a number of posts about it on different website forums. This appears to be a known issue and GM has changed them out in newer version of the LS3.

10-01-2016, 01:38 PM	#11
Race4Keep Drives: Red 2010 SS M6 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4	If there is such a thing as being lucky in this scenario, I guess I am. New piston and head and I should be back on the road again. Definitely replacing the springs on the other side though too!

10-01-2016, 01:53 PM	#12
Yknjack Yknjack Drives: 2014 Yellow RS Vert Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Seattle Posts: 36	Bad to have happened but good pictures Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk

10-01-2016, 01:58 PM	#13
Gearheaded Drives: 2014 SS Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Florida Posts: 369	Good deal man! Glad it was minimal all things considered. __________________ Toys: 2014 SS - TSP 235/239, CAI, LT's, 12.2 @ 115 ("SLOWLY" chipping away ET) 2000 Trans Am - Bolt-ons 13.0@110 (sold) 2009 YZF R1 - Race bike (road course)(totaled racing) 2008 YZF R6 - Race bike (road course)(still own)

10-04-2016, 08:35 PM	#14
Switches Drives: 2010 camaro SS Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Ft Wayne, ind Posts: 114 View My Garage	This exact thing happens to my 2010 ss I bought. Seems to be an issue with early LS3's. I was told by the dealer GM is aware of the issue but not enough for a recall? I Only owned 2 months and 1500 miles. Car had 44,700 miles. Spring broke , dropped valve . Cracked cylinder ,piston and did the same thing to the valve. Even shot broken head pieces up into the plenum. Dealer gave a 3000 or 3 month warrenty when I bought it. They covered the repair. New GM ls3 crate engine. Covers parts and labor up to the sum of $8569.79. My cost was 100 bucks.